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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:28:00 -0800, Skip M wrote:

Nice shots,

Thank you.

did you shoot them in greyscale, or convert from a color file?

I shot in RAW, then used the lightness channel in LAB mode.

Speaking of which -- here is my evidence that the lightness channel
is not the same as desaturation:

http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/lightness.jpg
http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/desat.jpg

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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:28:00 -0800, Skip M wrote:

Nice shots,

Thank you.

did you shoot them in greyscale, or convert from a color file?

I shot in RAW, then used the lightness channel in LAB mode.

Speaking of which -- here is my evidence that the lightness channel
is not the same as desaturation:

http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/lightness.jpg
http://narcissus.net/blackandwhite/desat.jpg

--
Ben Rosengart (212) 741-4400
x215
Sometimes it only makes sense to focus our attention on those
questions that are equal parts trivial and intriguing.
--Josh Micah Marshall

Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my 20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

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http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 03:11:46 -0800, Skip M wrote:

Hmm, don't see much difference.

Maybe not, but there *is* a difference, don't you agree?

By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective.

Did I say that? I should say rather that I'm not usually happy with
the results from it on my pictures.

I get results with my 20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

That's very nice.

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Ben Rosengart (212) 741-4400 x215
Sometimes it only makes sense to focus our attention on those
questions that are equal parts trivial and intriguing.
--Josh Micah Marshall

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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 03:11:46 -0800, Skip M wrote:

Hmm, don't see much difference.

Maybe not, but there *is* a difference, don't you agree?

By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective.

Did I say that? I should say rather that I'm not usually happy with
the results from it on my pictures.

I get results with my 20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate
Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

That's very nice.

--
Ben Rosengart (212) 741-4400
x215
Sometimes it only makes sense to focus our attention on those
questions that are equal parts trivial and intriguing.
--Josh Micah Marshall

Thanks!

--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

In article OtgWd.44700$xt.33304@fed1read07,
says...
Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my 20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

Now you're cooking with GAS!

In article ,
Brian Baird wrote:
In article OtgWd.44700$xt.33304@fed1read07,
says...
Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my 20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

Now you're cooking with GAS!

Hmm ... the burners are missing -- and there is not enough
detail in the web image (at least) for me to be sure that it is not
electric.

But I do find myself wondering how she *got* there, barefoot,
with all that junk on the floor. Or did she wear shoes, and then toss
them out of the image frame before the shot?

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Skip M wrote:

http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

"Okay honey now that you've signed the release, let's just head on over
to my high tech studio..."



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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
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In article ,
Brian Baird wrote:
In article OtgWd.44700$xt.33304@fed1read07,
says...
Hmm, don't see much difference. By the way, I'd have to disagree with
you
on the thought that the B&W mode is ineffective. I get results with my
20D
set on B&W with the yellow "filter" and contrast at +1 that emulate
Ilford
XP-2 very closely.
Example: (nude warning...)
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

Now you're cooking with GAS!

Hmm ... the burners are missing -- and there is not enough
detail in the web image (at least) for me to be sure that it is not
electric.

But I do find myself wondering how she *got* there, barefoot,
with all that junk on the floor. Or did she wear shoes, and then toss
them out of the image frame before the shot?

Enjoy,
DoN.

--
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

Actually, her shoes and clothes are tucked behind the stove...

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http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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Skip M wrote:

http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com/KitchenNudeNo2.html

"Okay honey now that you've signed the release, let's just head on over to
my high tech studio..."



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-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
-- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
-- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.

Heheheh, that's what I tell all the girls... ;-)

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