Capture NX

Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:06:21 +1200, Me wrote:

[...]
I haven't tried this. Back up any nef file before trying.

There are a few changes/improvements with NX2. Batch processing is
/much/ faster. Integration with View NX is better. An upgrade version
rather than full should still be available, even if the version of NX
1.** you have came free with the D300.

Just out of curiosity, is it still based on .net software?

I presume so.
A while ago I did some comparisons using NX and NX2 on several machines
running XP and Vista, (32 bit) with different RAM and HD configurations,
and different CPUs. Not "100% scientific", but for a standard operation
- open an *nef, do a standard edit, and save file;
A 1.6ghz basic dual core machine was about twice as fast as a 3.0 GHz P4
with HT.
No significant difference between 2 and 3 GB ram.
Shifting the NX cache to a separate physical otherwise empty sata drive
made no difference at all.
NX 1 and 2 were about the same speed for single file operations. If one
was slower to render an edit (NX1), it was correspondingly faster to
save the edited file.
For batch processing NX2 was /much/ faster - about 4x.
NX in Vista wasn't slower than in XP.

I don't think any NX version supports more than 2 CPU cores. If that's
the case, then for best performance for NX, then the fastest dual core
machine might give better results than much more expensive quad core
running at slower speed per core. Any 2 GHz C2D with 12 mp nef files
seemed to give pretty satisfactory performance - slowest operation is
still noise reduction - better quality, where the lag may be a few seconds.
But when NX was released, multi-core CPUs were "exotic" - not what most
amateur photographers had to use at home. No wonder many people gave up
on Capture NX in horror.

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 8/25/09 15:30 , Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:23:41 -0500, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/25/09 15:09 , Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:46:04 -0500, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/25/09 14:45 , Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:55:51 -0500, D. Peter Maus wrote:

[...]

If NX is no longer being updated, what should be used in its place?
(For now, with my D3.)

Mike.


NX2

If I upgraded to NX2, would I still be able to use the numerous
Settings Files I generated with NX?

Thanks,
Mike.


Good question. Nikon's website has a trial version of NX 2
available for download. Go for it. All your questions will be answered
with direct hands-on.

Can NX2 coexist on a system with NX, or will it delete the old version?

Mike.


I'm sure that may depend on your system. Under Windows, you have the
opportunity to put the trial software in a different directory than the
existing version.

I"m using Apples, and it's not been a problem under OS X. Tiger or
Leopard.


There's no problem (win) - it installs by default in a separate
directory, and both work fine. You can set the Right-click context menu
to default to either.

Me wrote:
A 1.6ghz basic dual core machine was about twice as fast as a 3.0 GHz P4
with HT.
That needs to be qualified - the basic dual core machine was a T 2330 or
similar pentium dual core (but not C2D, and not an "atom")

On 8/25/09 15:57 , Me wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 8/25/09 15:30 , Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:23:41 -0500, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/25/09 15:09 , Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:46:04 -0500, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/25/09 14:45 , Mike -- Email Ignored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:55:51 -0500, D. Peter Maus wrote:

[...]

If NX is no longer being updated, what should be used in its place?
(For now, with my D3.)

Mike.


NX2

If I upgraded to NX2, would I still be able to use the numerous
Settings Files I generated with NX?

Thanks,
Mike.


Good question. Nikon's website has a trial version of NX 2
available for download. Go for it. All your questions will be answered
with direct hands-on.

Can NX2 coexist on a system with NX, or will it delete the old version?

Mike.


I'm sure that may depend on your system. Under Windows, you have the
opportunity to put the trial software in a different directory than
the existing version.

I"m using Apples, and it's not been a problem under OS X. Tiger or
Leopard.


There's no problem (win) - it installs by default in a separate
directory, and both work fine. You can set the Right-click context menu
to default to either.


I guess it would, wouldn't it. Nikon is explicit that NX2 is a
complete and separate version, as opposed to an update of NX.

Well...didn't I get a neat surprise, today. Normally, I edit shots
on my Twin G5 PowerMac. Being PPC, the last O/S it will see is Leopard.

It was doing a batch process of yesterday's shoot, and I needed
to take a quick look at a RAW from earlier today, so I opened it up
on my CoreDuo Mac Mini, running freshly installed Snow Leopard.

Error statement saying that the file couldn't be opened. Not good.

Tried several other files, .nef as well as .tif and .jpg and I got
the same error statement.

Not cool, guys.

Checked the Nikon website, and sure enough, Capture NX2 is not
compatible with Snow Leopard. Nikon recommending that we not upgrade
until further testing has been completed.

Ooops, too late.

So, Snow Leopard is a great O/S. Clean handling, rock stable, and
very fast. But not everything connected to it is.

Including Capture NX2.

iPhoto works fine, such that it is. And Aperture works like
it was born to the manor. But Capture NX2, my preferred editing
suite...not so much.

So, hold off, if you can. Nikon says they're working on it.


Real fun, no?


yourpeter.

On 2009-09-01 22:11:53 -0700, "D. Peter Maus"
said:


Well...didn't I get a neat surprise, today. Normally, I edit shots on
my Twin G5 PowerMac. Being PPC, the last O/S it will see is Leopard.

It was doing a batch process of yesterday's shoot, and I needed to
take a quick look at a RAW from earlier today, so I opened it up on my
CoreDuo Mac Mini, running freshly installed Snow Leopard.

Error statement saying that the file couldn't be opened. Not good.

Tried several other files, .nef as well as .tif and .jpg and I got the
same error statement.

Not cool, guys.

Checked the Nikon website, and sure enough, Capture NX2 is not
compatible with Snow Leopard. Nikon recommending that we not upgrade
until further testing has been completed.

Ooops, too late.

So, Snow Leopard is a great O/S. Clean handling, rock stable, and very
fast. But not everything connected to it is.

Including Capture NX2.

iPhoto works fine, such that it is. And Aperture works like it
was born to the manor. But Capture NX2, my preferred editing
suite...not so much.

So, hold off, if you can. Nikon says they're working on it.


Real fun, no?


yourpeter.

I guess you should have checked this first:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3258
....but I didn't see NX2 there, so maybe a call is in order.

Then there is this;
http://www.macworld.com/article/1424...6glitches.html

....and for the CS4 users among us there is this;
http://www.macworld.com/article/1424...9/08/nack.html


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 9/2/09 24:34 , Savageduck wrote:
On 2009-09-01 22:11:53 -0700, "D. Peter Maus"
said:


Well...didn't I get a neat surprise, today. Normally, I edit shots on
my Twin G5 PowerMac. Being PPC, the last O/S it will see is Leopard.

It was doing a batch process of yesterday's shoot, and I needed to
take a quick look at a RAW from earlier today, so I opened it up on my
CoreDuo Mac Mini, running freshly installed Snow Leopard.

Error statement saying that the file couldn't be opened. Not good.

Tried several other files, .nef as well as .tif and .jpg and I got the
same error statement.

Not cool, guys.

Checked the Nikon website, and sure enough, Capture NX2 is not
compatible with Snow Leopard. Nikon recommending that we not upgrade
until further testing has been completed.

Ooops, too late.

So, Snow Leopard is a great O/S. Clean handling, rock stable, and very
fast. But not everything connected to it is.

Including Capture NX2.

iPhoto works fine, such that it is. And Aperture works like it was
born to the manor. But Capture NX2, my preferred editing suite...not
so much.

So, hold off, if you can. Nikon says they're working on it.


Real fun, no?


yourpeter.

I guess you should have checked this first:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3258
...but I didn't see NX2 there, so maybe a call is in order.


There were several sites listing software incompatibilities. CNX2
wasn't in any of them I saw. But that doesn't really surprise me.


There are options in the meantime, as Nikon works on this. And,
as I said, my primary editing machine is fine.

Just mentioned it as a head's up for those contemplating the
upgrade.

Reverting from 2.2.2 to 2.2.0 seems to have done the trick. Files
open, functionality restored. Running Snow Leopard.

Rosetta must be installed to run 2.2.0. Installer finds and
installs it in less than a minute.