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Old April 4th 07, 06:06 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
louise
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Default Nikon D40X ?

After a few years of trying to live without my Nikon SLR
film camera, I've decided that no digital camera which is
not an SLR is going to make me happy or produce the kind of
sensitivity and clarity of image to which I'd grown accustomed.

I have one particular need: my hands are unusually small
and I find several of the DSLRs very uncomfortable to hold
and I can't imagine ever becoming nimble with them.

I have had a long and happy relationship with Nikons and so
that is my first choice. I did also look at the Canon Rebel
XT1 since it is my impression that the CCD chip is also
quite good.

I'm leaning toward the D40X because it is really light and
wonderful to hold. I imagine getting it with the standard
lens and using my old zoom telephoto when I really need a
long lens, which is not that often. I know that my Nikon A
telephoto zoom will not autofocus on the D40X but I really
don't expect to use it very often.

My main concern is about the fact that the auto focus
mechanism for the D40x is in the lens rather than in the
camera. Will this make it obsolete in a year or two? Is it
a new design Nikon came up with which will soon be replaced?

My other concern is really a question. When comparing the
d40X to the Rebel XT1, is there a significant difference
between the two CCDs? Also, I could manage to hold the D80,
although not comfortably. Will I wish I'd gotten the D80?

Anything else I should take into consideration?

TIA

Louise
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Old April 4th 07, 03:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alexander Arnakis
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Default Nikon D40X ?

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:06:20 -0400, louise
wrote:

I'm leaning toward the D40X because it is really light and
wonderful to hold. I imagine getting it with the standard
lens and using my old zoom telephoto when I really need a
long lens, which is not that often. I know that my Nikon A
telephoto zoom will not autofocus on the D40X but I really
don't expect to use it very often.

My main concern is about the fact that the auto focus
mechanism for the D40x is in the lens rather than in the
camera. Will this make it obsolete in a year or two? Is it
a new design Nikon came up with which will soon be replaced?

Anything else I should take into consideration?

I have a D70 (bought it when they first came out) but I rarely use it
because of the "clunkiness" factor. It's too big and bulky for me.

That's precisely why I got the D40. So far, I've found it to be a
wonderful camera.

Personally, I hate all kinds of zoom lenses (too slow), and I hate
autofocus. The D40 is ideal for manual focus, provided you replace the
standard focusing screen with a Katz Eye split-image rangefinding
screen.

The D40 will mount all Nikon F-mount lenses, even the early non-AI
ones. It will only meter with lenses having CPU contacts, but you can
set exposure with all lenses using the trial-and-error method. The
lens I keep on the camera most of the time is the 45mm f/2.8P, which
is the only Nikon manual-focus lens with a CPU. This makes a very
compact package (the lens gives you the equivalent perspective of a
67mm lens on a film camera).

Regarding the difference between the D40 and the D40x, keep in mind
that the 6 megapixel sensor (in the D40) produces images of 2000x3000
pixels. That's plenty of resolution for me. You might want to pay the
higher price for the D40x if you routinely make enlargements bigger
than 8x10.

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Old April 4th 07, 04:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Ken Lucke
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Default Nikon D40X ?

In article , louise
wrote:

After a few years of trying to live without my Nikon SLR
film camera, I've decided that no digital camera which is
not an SLR is going to make me happy or produce the kind of
sensitivity and clarity of image to which I'd grown accustomed.

I have one particular need: my hands are unusually small
and I find several of the DSLRs very uncomfortable to hold
and I can't imagine ever becoming nimble with them.

I have had a long and happy relationship with Nikons and so
that is my first choice. I did also look at the Canon Rebel
XT1 since it is my impression that the CCD chip is also
quite good.

I'm leaning toward the D40X because it is really light and
wonderful to hold. I imagine getting it with the standard
lens and using my old zoom telephoto when I really need a
long lens, which is not that often. I know that my Nikon A
telephoto zoom will not autofocus on the D40X but I really
don't expect to use it very often.

My main concern is about the fact that the auto focus
mechanism for the D40x is in the lens rather than in the
camera. Will this make it obsolete in a year or two? Is it
a new design Nikon came up with which will soon be replaced?

My other concern is really a question. When comparing the
d40X to the Rebel XT1, is there a significant difference
between the two CCDs? Also, I could manage to hold the D80,
although not comfortably. Will I wish I'd gotten the D80?

Anything else I should take into consideration?


Ther's a whole thread concerning this over im rec.photo.digital right
now, rather than rehash it all here.

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Old April 4th 07, 05:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
RichA
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Default Nikon D40X ?

On Apr 4, 1:06 am, louise wrote:
After a few years of trying to live without my Nikon SLR
film camera, I've decided that no digital camera which is
not an SLR is going to make me happy or produce the kind of
sensitivity and clarity of image to which I'd grown accustomed.

I have one particular need: my hands are unusually small
and I find several of the DSLRs very uncomfortable to hold
and I can't imagine ever becoming nimble with them.

I have had a long and happy relationship with Nikons and so
that is my first choice. I did also look at the Canon Rebel
XT1 since it is my impression that the CCD chip is also
quite good.

I'm leaning toward the D40X because it is really light and
wonderful to hold. I imagine getting it with the standard
lens and using my old zoom telephoto when I really need a
long lens, which is not that often. I know that my Nikon A
telephoto zoom will not autofocus on the D40X but I really
don't expect to use it very often.

My main concern is about the fact that the auto focus
mechanism for the D40x is in the lens rather than in the
camera. Will this make it obsolete in a year or two? Is it
a new design Nikon came up with which will soon be replaced?

My other concern is really a question. When comparing the
d40X to the Rebel XT1, is there a significant difference
between the two CCDs? Also, I could manage to hold the D80,
although not comfortably. Will I wish I'd gotten the D80?

Anything else I should take into consideration?

TIA

Louise


More cameras for midgets are on the horizon? Olympus's E-410 gets
released this month.

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Old April 4th 07, 10:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
DoN. Nichols
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Default Nikon D40X ?

According to Alexander Arnakis :
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:06:20 -0400, louise
wrote:

I'm leaning toward the D40X because it is really light and
wonderful to hold. I imagine getting it with the standard
lens and using my old zoom telephoto when I really need a
long lens, which is not that often. I know that my Nikon A
telephoto zoom will not autofocus on the D40X but I really
don't expect to use it very often.


It will also not meter, as well as not autofocusing, assuming
that it is not autofocus on earlier cameras as well. Alexander covered
that below.

My main concern is about the fact that the auto focus
mechanism for the D40x is in the lens rather than in the
camera. Will this make it obsolete in a year or two? Is it
a new design Nikon came up with which will soon be replaced?


The camera will autofocus with any autofocus lenses, I believe,
as they will have CPU contacts as well, which are used to communicate
autofocus requirements to the lens' internal motor. If it is missing
the sensor for full stop-down on the aperture ring of those lenses which
are so equipped, then it will not cause problems with mounting the
lenses, but it leaves a possibility of not behaving properly with the
aperture ring not stopped down fully on older autofocus lenses, such
as my 35-135mm f3.5-4.5, and my 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 lenses.

Anything else I should take into consideration?

I have a D70 (bought it when they first came out) but I rarely use it
because of the "clunkiness" factor. It's too big and bulky for me.


While I use mine all the time -- and am considering (actually
lusting after) the even larger D200.

That's precisely why I got the D40. So far, I've found it to be a
wonderful camera.

Personally, I hate all kinds of zoom lenses (too slow), and I hate
autofocus. The D40 is ideal for manual focus, provided you replace the
standard focusing screen with a Katz Eye split-image rangefinding
screen.


Depending on your needs. For carefully set up and/or posed
shots, "primes", that is, fixed focal length lenses) are usually the
better choices, but if you are photographing events as they change, the
added flexibility of a zoom is a significant benefit. I have some of
each, and tend to have a zoom on the camera most of the time. For me,
the slower aperture range of my zoom lenses is made up for by the
auto-ISO setting allowing an increase of ISO when the light is low. But
you may dislike the noise in high-ISO shots. To me, it is no worse than
grain in high ISO film.

The D40 will mount all Nikon F-mount lenses, even the early non-AI
ones. It will only meter with lenses having CPU contacts, but you can
set exposure with all lenses using the trial-and-error method.


And -- for cases where you are setting up the shot, this is less
of a problem than it may seem, because of the ability to both view the
image and the histogram to evaluate the exposure of your trial shots.
(Besides, you can get a close starting point by using the kit lens which
came with the camera to give you an approximate exposure.) This is a
*lot* better than guessing with film, and having to come back and set up
the shoot again after processing. :-)

The
lens I keep on the camera most of the time is the 45mm f/2.8P, which
is the only Nikon manual-focus lens with a CPU. This makes a very
compact package (the lens gives you the equivalent perspective of a
67mm lens on a film camera).


Yes -- you want to bear in mind the effect of the 1.5x crop
factor on your existing lenses. Every lens will behave as though it
were 1.5 times longer than it is -- at least in terms of coverage.

Regarding the difference between the D40 and the D40x, keep in mind
that the 6 megapixel sensor (in the D40) produces images of 2000x3000
pixels. That's plenty of resolution for me. You might want to pay the
higher price for the D40x if you routinely make enlargements bigger
than 8x10.


Agreed! My primary reason for wanting the D200 is the ability
to meter with the AI lenses at least, if not the really old ones which
are pure Nikon F mount instead of for the later cameras.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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Old April 5th 07, 12:19 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alexander Arnakis
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:47:23 +0100, Tony Polson wrote:

The D40X will operate the internal motors in AF-S and AF-I Nikkors,
the latter being very rare now.

However, the D40X will not operatethe internal motors in any other AF
Nikkors, for the simple reason that they don't have motors. They rely
instead on the "screwdriver" drive shaft that runs through the lens
mount on every Nikon AF camera body except the D40X.


Yes, and bear in mind that all the AF-S lenses so far are zooms. If
you want to use any type of prime lens on the D40, it will have to be
in manual-focus mode. (For me that's no problem, since I *prefer*
manual focus.)

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Old April 5th 07, 01:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Robert Brace
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
It will also not meter, as well as not autofocusing, assuming
that it is not autofocus on earlier cameras as well. Alexander covered
that below.

The camera will autofocus with any autofocus lenses, I believe,
as they will have CPU contacts as well, which are used to communicate
autofocus requirements to the lens' internal motor.


Don:
The D40/40X will only auto-focus with AF-S lenses (those having the
in-lens focus motor) regardless as to the CPU contacts being present. AF-D
lenses have the CPU contacts but use the in-camera motor to drive the
auto-focus screw in the lens, thus will not auto-focus with the D40/40X.
Bob


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Old April 5th 07, 02:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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RichA wrote:
On Apr 4, 1:06 am, louise wrote:
After a few years of trying to live without my Nikon SLR
film camera, I've decided that no digital camera which is
not an SLR is going to make me happy or produce the kind of
sensitivity and clarity of image to which I'd grown accustomed.

I have one particular need: my hands are unusually small
and I find several of the DSLRs very uncomfortable to hold
and I can't imagine ever becoming nimble with them.

I have had a long and happy relationship with Nikons and so
that is my first choice. I did also look at the Canon Rebel
XT1 since it is my impression that the CCD chip is also
quite good.

I'm leaning toward the D40X because it is really light and
wonderful to hold. I imagine getting it with the standard
lens and using my old zoom telephoto when I really need a
long lens, which is not that often. I know that my Nikon A
telephoto zoom will not autofocus on the D40X but I really
don't expect to use it very often.

My main concern is about the fact that the auto focus
mechanism for the D40x is in the lens rather than in the
camera. Will this make it obsolete in a year or two? Is it
a new design Nikon came up with which will soon be replaced?

My other concern is really a question. When comparing the
d40X to the Rebel XT1, is there a significant difference
between the two CCDs? Also, I could manage to hold the D80,
although not comfortably. Will I wish I'd gotten the D80?

Anything else I should take into consideration?

TIA

Louise


More cameras for midgets are on the horizon? Olympus's E-410 gets
released this month.

I think you'll find the D40 will meet your needs. While the resolution
is higher on the D40x, the D40 has more than enough resolution for the
majority of uses. Its image quality is excellent and you'll find it's a
little less noise prone than the "x" is. I have D200 but bought two D40s
as Christmas presents for my son and daughter and naturally, had to
"test" them out before giving them. I was very pleased with the overall
handling and image quality from the D40 and am now considering getting
one myself for those times I don't want to carry around the much heavier
D200.

While the D40 will restrict you to SF-S lenses if you want auto-focus,
and it won't meter with non-CPU lenses the way the D200 will, it will
still deliver excellent performance at a great price point and remember,
it's not the camera that makes great images, it's the photographer....
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Old April 5th 07, 03:45 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
DoN. Nichols
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Default Nikon D40X ?

According to Robert Brace :

"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
...
It will also not meter, as well as not autofocusing, assuming
that it is not autofocus on earlier cameras as well. Alexander covered
that below.

The camera will autofocus with any autofocus lenses, I believe,
as they will have CPU contacts as well, which are used to communicate
autofocus requirements to the lens' internal motor.


Don:
The D40/40X will only auto-focus with AF-S lenses (those having the
in-lens focus motor) regardless as to the CPU contacts being present. AF-D
lenses have the CPU contacts but use the in-camera motor to drive the
auto-focus screw in the lens, thus will not auto-focus with the D40/40X.


O.K. I have not handled a D40, and obviously should have prior
to answering. So -- they left out yet another thing to make it cheaper
and lighter.

Thanks,
DoN.

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