the adventure of photography

whisky-dave wrote:
"sobriquet" wrote in message

You are a nazi cockroach that belongs in jail along with all the rest
of the nazi scum that fail to respect human rights.

and again, and again,......

If he had brains he wouldn't need to steal.

--
Ray Fischer

sobriquet wrote:
Those articles don't detract in any way from the fact that people have
the right
to share and exchange information.

Nope.

If people claim information as intellectual property, they have to
keep that property to themselves,

The thief likes to make up his own rules for other people to obey.

--
Ray Fischer

"sobriquet" wrote in message
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On 10 mei, 14:37, "whisky-dave" wrote:
"sobriquet" wrote in message

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On 7 mei, 16:19, "Peter" wrote:





"whisky-dave" wrote in message



You aren't allowed to keep library books unless you are a thief.
Most people return them.

That's besides the point.
No it's not, libraries should only be used by those people that are willing
to return the books they borrow. Otherwise if librarys lent to peolpe like
you they'd soon have no books left.

Someone might be happy to read books for
free at the library
instead of buying a book in the bookstore.
That's their choice, in most cases ther's no law against it.

Just like somebody else
might be happy to download
an ebook from the internet instead of buying a book in the bookstore.

Yep, ebooks are becomming quite popular.
I think they cost too much but that's my personal grudge.
I think alcohol costs too much as well.


Can you tell teh difference between someone that returns your property
after borrowing it and someone that doesn;t return it after borrowing.

Not everybody has room to store lots of books at home. So they can buy
books and swap them with other book readers, of they can read books
for free at the library or they can download ebooks from the internet.

They can also have sex, eat and play loud music, but not in the library.
Why do you think that is, you can do all those at home can;t you ?


}It's all besides the point. You could put the banknotes in transparent
}envelopes and write on the envelopes that the contents is your
}property. Then scatter the envelopes containing the banknotes
}deliberately wherever you go and see if the police are willing to help
}you protect your property, since you feel you have every right to
}scatter your property everywhere and still expect people to respect
}your ownership claims.

What crap are you talking this time ?

You insisted you were not allowed to write anything on banknotes.

You can't deface or destroy banknotes (without permission of course).
Now why do you think that is ?

So
you can put
them in a transparent envelope and write on the envelope the banknotes
inside are your property. Then you can scatter them out on the streets
to see if people respect your property claims, regardless whether you
keep your banknotes at home in a safe place or you scatter them out on
the streets wherever you go.

You can certainly give money away but I still don;t understand the point
yuo are making by putting them in bags.

On 5/12/10 8:11 AM, in article hse9dj$t9l$1@qmul, "whisky-dave"
wrote:


"sobriquet" wrote in message
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So
you can put
them in a transparent envelope and write on the envelope the banknotes
inside are your property. Then you can scatter them out on the streets
to see if people respect your property claims, regardless whether you
keep your banknotes at home in a safe place or you scatter them out on
the streets wherever you go.

You can certainly give money away but I still don;t understand the point
yuo are making by putting them in bags.

Habit. That's what his sex partners do to his head before intercourse.

On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:11:15 +0100, "whisky-dave"
wrote:


"sobriquet" wrote in message
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On 10 mei, 14:37, "whisky-dave" wrote:
"sobriquet" wrote in message

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On 7 mei, 16:19, "Peter" wrote:





"whisky-dave" wrote in message



You aren't allowed to keep library books unless you are a thief.
Most people return them.

That's besides the point.
No it's not, libraries should only be used by those people that are willing
to return the books they borrow. Otherwise if librarys lent to peolpe like
you they'd soon have no books left.

That's a particularly bad analogy. You didn't quite think it through, did
you.

What's so wonderful about the internet library is that you can borrow a
book and never return it. The original book still remains for anyone to
borrow and they also never have to return it. There is no loss of anyone's
books by borrowing them indefinitely if they are digital.

"sobriquet" wrote in message
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On 9 mei, 23:10, Paul Furman wrote:
sobriquet wrote:
On 5 mei, 14:49, "whisky-dave" wrote:
"sobriquet" wrote in message

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On 4 mei, 15:02, (Ray Fischer) wrote:

sobriquet wrote:
On 4 mei, 09:48, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
ken d wrote:
Nobody can steal what you willingly share, therefore you are
making
false
accusations.
Illegally taking copyrighted work is not willingly shared. That's
just a self-se4rving rationalization.
Nobody is forcing anyone who creates anything to share it with the
rest of the world.
A bald-faced lie.
}A fact.

That's their choice, but once they share it, it's beyond their
control.
"She wasn't forced to go on a date, but pnce she did she cannot
complain about being raped."
}Flawed analogy. Rape violates human rights, copyright infringement
}doesn't,

So if copy infringement doesn't violate human rights then
copying isn't a human right.

I think you would definitely benefit from following a course on proper
argumentation:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4919...umentation__Th...

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a19

Try this one:http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a17
Article 17.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in
association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

and:

Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to
just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against
unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for
equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration
ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human
dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social
protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the
protection of his interests.




Those articles don't detract in any way from the fact that people have
the right
to share and exchange information.

You have the right to share your information not everyone else's.


If people claim information as intellectual property, they have to
keep that property to themselves, just like you can't expect to
scatter banknotes wherever you go and claim that the police is obliged
to help you protect your property if you don't think it's your duty to
properly store your property in a safe place.

No, you;ve go it wrong yet again.
Are you saying I have the right to your information such as CC details
and anything else. Do you really keep your bank details at home ?
Everyone I know has there details stored on the banks servers
which is what you call the public domain isn;t it.
What if someone breaks in to the bank and takes your money
it's gone isn;t it ?
Why do you keep your money in the public domain ?

On 5/12/10 11:49 AM, in article
,
"sobriquet" wrote:

On 12 mei, 18:04, "whisky-dave" wrote:
[..babbling..]

I'm done with you.. you are a nazi cockroach who has his head stuck up
his arse.

Pretty soon, at this rate, you will have no one to talk with.

That would be good...

On 5/12/10 10:13 AM, in article
,
"sobriquet" wrote:

Maybe you should retract your head from your arse before attempting to
have a discussion.

Now **** off you nazi cockroach.. I'm done with you.

I will not waste anymore time on idiots who have their head stuck up
their arse and refuse to use their own brain to cultivate a mind of
their own.

Promises, just promises.

Follow through - pretty please?

On 5/12/10 11:48 AM, in article
,
"sobriquet" wrote:

On 12 mei, 18:04, "whisky-dave" wrote:
[..babbling..]

I'm done with you.. you are a nazi cockroach who has his head stuck up
his arse.

You keep repeating that, yet...

"sobriquet" wrote in message
...

You can read books for free at the library. You need a paid form of
membership to borrow books.

True

Where I live, it's legal to go to the library and bring a digital
camera and make a copy from
books for personal use. So that's exactly the same as downloading an
ebook online.
Both are legal, but I sympathize with you guys who live in a fascist
police state where people
are not allowed to access information freely.

Personal use only. Not to share. Assuming you do live in the Netherlands the
law expressly prohibits sharing without paying the publisher a fee. Please
stop trolling.

http://www.copyright.com/viewPage.do?pageCode=s41

--
Peter