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  #11  
Old March 18th 16, 03:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2016-03-18 13:06:13 +0000, PAS said:

On 3/17/2016 8:05 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-03-17 22:00:19 +0000, Mort said:
Davoud wrote:
http://profoto.com/blog/fine-art-pho...n-ruhter-creat
ing-largest-wet-plate-collodion-ambrotype-world/


In many years of taking digital photos, using SanDisk SD cards, I have
had only one bad card. That did not work in my camera, but it did in
my computer and my printer,so the pix were not lost.


After retrieving the image files and loading them on your computer,
format the SD card in-camera.

There is available a small portable battery operated unit that takes a
photo SD card and quickly burns the pix to a CD-R. It is useful in the
field.


As part of my triple redundant, on the road back-up protocol, I use a
HyperDrive ColorSpace UDMA which does full and incremental card
back-ups without the need for a computer. I still have my original
version bought in 2009, they are now up to UDMA3. It reads CF, SD, and
several other card types.
http://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3


Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.

http://timg.danawa.com/prod_img/larg...1/120754_1.jpg

I think it cost me around $250.00 when I got it. It still works but
there's no need for it now with such a small amount of storage.


Yup! These days 30GB is a tad cramped. The other thing I like about the
UDMA is having a reasonable size display for browsing without a
computer, and that it behaves like any other portable HDD when
connected to a computer.

I got my UDMA with a 250GB drive in 2009 and I have since replaced that
with a 1TB drive. I am still using the original battery which has been
long lived, but it might be prudent to replace that soon. The UDMA has
proven to be a great back-up tool and on one trip saved the day when
D300+ 3CF cards were stolen in South Africa. I only lost the 6 shots I
had taken the morning of the theft.

I transfer images from camera to laptop via a locked SD card; never by
cable or wi-fi.

Mort Linder


I use whatever transfer method is convenient at the time, cable linked
reader for CF cards, built-in SD card reader, WiFi, from the ColorSpace
UDMA. None of them has failed me yet.



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Savageduck

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Old March 18th 16, 03:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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PAS wrote:

Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.


I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same;
40GB comes to mind.

I think it cost me around $250.00 when I got it. It still works but
there's no need for it now with such a small amount of storage.


IIRC, I updated my Hyperdrives to 120GB ... and then realized that
CF cards were becoming so much cheaper that I'm not even sure if
they even ever got used after they got upgraded. Probably should
look to sell them soon before they're completely obsolete/worthless.


-hh
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Old March 18th 16, 04:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 3/18/2016 10:50 AM, -hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.

I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same;
40GB comes to mind.

I think it cost me around $250.00 when I got it. It still works but
there's no need for it now with such a small amount of storage.

IIRC, I updated my Hyperdrives to 120GB ... and then realized that
CF cards were becoming so much cheaper that I'm not even sure if
they even ever got used after they got upgraded. Probably should
look to sell them soon before they're completely obsolete/worthless.


-hh


After using my Tripper for some time, I eventually upgraded by buying a
housing and a 80GB hard drive and "building" my own. With the low cost
of large CF cards, I don't use that one anymore. If I ever find myself
shooting a lot and needing to back up my files such as when on a trip,
then it would probably be wise to invest in a unit with a large capacity
if I don't carry a laptop with me.
  #14  
Old March 18th 16, 04:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Mar 18, 2016, hh wrote
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PAS wrote:

Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.


I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same;
40GB comes to mind.

I think it cost me around $250.00 when I got it. It still works but
there's no need for it now with such a small amount of storage.


IIRC, I updated my Hyperdrives to 120GB ... and then realized that
CF cards were becoming so much cheaper that I'm not even sure if
they even ever got used after they got upgraded. Probably should
look to sell them soon before they're completely obsolete/worthless.


I have a whole bunch of 750MB, 1GB & 2GB CF cards, all gathering dust and of
little value.Hardly even considering trying to sell.
I don’t shoot video so these days I buy capacities that make economic
sense, usually fast 32GB SD (I have 5x32GB, 4x8GB and 1x16GB SDHC) cards.

I haven’t needed to buy new CF cards for some time as the bunch of 8GB and
16GB Sandisc CF's I have for my D300S are doing fine, and in the worst case
scenario the D300S has a secondary SD slot along with the CF slot. I usually
have an 8 or 16GB SD card in the secondary slot to handle overflow if I am
trigger happy at an airshow, or I could use the secondary slot to mirror the
primary CF card. In the past I tried recording RAW files to the CF card and
JPEGs to the SD, but while that might have been useful for some folks
(particularly now that Reuters wants original JPEGs) it wasn’t much more
than a novelty for me.

As for on the road back-up, my ColorSpace UDMA(1) is now running a 1 TB HDD.
I have thought about putting an SSD for a speed boost and battery life
improvement, but that is really not necessary. I am tempted by the WiFi
capability of the new UDMA3, but I don’t really need that.



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Regards,
Savageduck

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Old March 18th 16, 08:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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PAS wrote:
-hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.


I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same; ...


After using my Tripper for some time, I eventually upgraded by buying a
housing and a 80GB hard drive and "building" my own.


I recall hitting some sort of addressability barrier that 120GB was
the max mine could use ... but even after I upgraded them, it really
wasn't all that much longer before I just bought more cards to leave
that weight/bulk at home.

With the low cost of large CF cards, I don't use that one anymore.


Same here. I think I'm at roughly 300GB and Savageduck's post said
about the same, reporting 208GB.

If I ever find myself shooting a lot and needing to back up my
files such as when on a trip, then it would probably be wise to
invest in a unit with a large capacity if I don't carry a laptop
with me.


The last trip that I can recall carrying a laptop with me *and*
actually working on images while on the trip was IIRC back in 2010...

....so my thoughts today are to just plan ahead and if buying more
cards is the easy path, then to do so. It looks like B&H has a
two-pack of 32GB Lexar 800x for $65, which is a lot less than what
the cost per GB was a decade ago ($100 per GB -- $6500 worth).


-hh
  #16  
Old March 21st 16, 02:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PAS[_2_]
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On 3/18/2016 3:47 PM, -hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
-hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.
I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same; ...

After using my Tripper for some time, I eventually upgraded by buying a
housing and a 80GB hard drive and "building" my own.

I recall hitting some sort of addressability barrier that 120GB was
the max mine could use ... but even after I upgraded them, it really
wasn't all that much longer before I just bought more cards to leave
that weight/bulk at home.

With the low cost of large CF cards, I don't use that one anymore.

Same here. I think I'm at roughly 300GB and Savageduck's post said
about the same, reporting 208GB.

If I ever find myself shooting a lot and needing to back up my
files such as when on a trip, then it would probably be wise to
invest in a unit with a large capacity if I don't carry a laptop
with me.

The last trip that I can recall carrying a laptop with me *and*
actually working on images while on the trip was IIRC back in 2010...

...so my thoughts today are to just plan ahead and if buying more
cards is the easy path, then to do so. It looks like B&H has a
two-pack of 32GB Lexar 800x for $65, which is a lot less than what
the cost per GB was a decade ago ($100 per GB -- $6500 worth).


-hh


At the time I bought the Tripper, the cost was about $320.00 for four
cards amounting to 1GB. I'm sure I could have found some for less but
not that much less. This is the price Cameta Camera was charging and
they had then, and do today, have very competitive pricing. Like all
things computer-related, who would have thought then how the prices for
things would be so low now. I recall waiting in line at CompUSA to buy
an internal hard drive to expand my system. It was being sold for an
unheard-of-price of $150.00. The line was ridiculously long. The hard
drive was 5.7GB (that's five-point-seven).
  #17  
Old March 21st 16, 10:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:29:36 -0400, PAS wrote:

On 3/18/2016 3:47 PM, -hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
-hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.
I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same; ...
After using my Tripper for some time, I eventually upgraded by buying a
housing and a 80GB hard drive and "building" my own.

I recall hitting some sort of addressability barrier that 120GB was
the max mine could use ... but even after I upgraded them, it really
wasn't all that much longer before I just bought more cards to leave
that weight/bulk at home.

With the low cost of large CF cards, I don't use that one anymore.

Same here. I think I'm at roughly 300GB and Savageduck's post said
about the same, reporting 208GB.

If I ever find myself shooting a lot and needing to back up my
files such as when on a trip, then it would probably be wise to
invest in a unit with a large capacity if I don't carry a laptop
with me.

The last trip that I can recall carrying a laptop with me *and*
actually working on images while on the trip was IIRC back in 2010...

...so my thoughts today are to just plan ahead and if buying more
cards is the easy path, then to do so. It looks like B&H has a
two-pack of 32GB Lexar 800x for $65, which is a lot less than what
the cost per GB was a decade ago ($100 per GB -- $6500 worth).


-hh


At the time I bought the Tripper, the cost was about $320.00 for four
cards amounting to 1GB. I'm sure I could have found some for less but
not that much less. This is the price Cameta Camera was charging and
they had then, and do today, have very competitive pricing. Like all
things computer-related, who would have thought then how the prices for
things would be so low now. I recall waiting in line at CompUSA to buy
an internal hard drive to expand my system. It was being sold for an
unheard-of-price of $150.00. The line was ridiculously long. The hard
drive was 5.7GB (that's five-point-seven).


I remember paying about US$3000 for an 8" 10MB, I couldn't then have
conceived the capacities now available and their price.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #18  
Old March 21st 16, 10:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
charles
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:29:36 -0400, PAS wrote:

On 3/18/2016 3:47 PM, -hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
-hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.
I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same; ...
After using my Tripper for some time, I eventually upgraded by buying a
housing and a 80GB hard drive and "building" my own.

I recall hitting some sort of addressability barrier that 120GB was
the max mine could use ... but even after I upgraded them, it really
wasn't all that much longer before I just bought more cards to leave
that weight/bulk at home.

With the low cost of large CF cards, I don't use that one anymore.

Same here. I think I'm at roughly 300GB and Savageduck's post said
about the same, reporting 208GB.

If I ever find myself shooting a lot and needing to back up my
files such as when on a trip, then it would probably be wise to
invest in a unit with a large capacity if I don't carry a laptop
with me.

The last trip that I can recall carrying a laptop with me *and*
actually working on images while on the trip was IIRC back in 2010...

...so my thoughts today are to just plan ahead and if buying more
cards is the easy path, then to do so. It looks like B&H has a
two-pack of 32GB Lexar 800x for $65, which is a lot less than what
the cost per GB was a decade ago ($100 per GB -- $6500 worth).


-hh


At the time I bought the Tripper, the cost was about $320.00 for four
cards amounting to 1GB. I'm sure I could have found some for less but
not that much less. This is the price Cameta Camera was charging and
they had then, and do today, have very competitive pricing. Like all
things computer-related, who would have thought then how the prices for
things would be so low now. I recall waiting in line at CompUSA to buy
an internal hard drive to expand my system. It was being sold for an
unheard-of-price of $150.00. The line was ridiculously long. The hard
drive was 5.7GB (that's five-point-seven).



I wonder how many Seagate ST-225s I've gone through. 20 MBytes each.
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Old March 22nd 16, 02:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 3/21/2016 5:03 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:29:36 -0400, PAS wrote:

On 3/18/2016 3:47 PM, -hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
-hh wrote:
PAS wrote:
Back when I got my first DSLR and a 256MB CF card cost $80.00, I bought
a Tripper portable storage device. It has a whopping 30GB drive in it.
I think the Hyperdrives I bought (circa 2006) were about the same; ...
After using my Tripper for some time, I eventually upgraded by buying a
housing and a 80GB hard drive and "building" my own.
I recall hitting some sort of addressability barrier that 120GB was
the max mine could use ... but even after I upgraded them, it really
wasn't all that much longer before I just bought more cards to leave
that weight/bulk at home.

With the low cost of large CF cards, I don't use that one anymore.
Same here. I think I'm at roughly 300GB and Savageduck's post said
about the same, reporting 208GB.

If I ever find myself shooting a lot and needing to back up my
files such as when on a trip, then it would probably be wise to
invest in a unit with a large capacity if I don't carry a laptop
with me.
The last trip that I can recall carrying a laptop with me *and*
actually working on images while on the trip was IIRC back in 2010...

...so my thoughts today are to just plan ahead and if buying more
cards is the easy path, then to do so. It looks like B&H has a
two-pack of 32GB Lexar 800x for $65, which is a lot less than what
the cost per GB was a decade ago ($100 per GB -- $6500 worth).


-hh

At the time I bought the Tripper, the cost was about $320.00 for four
cards amounting to 1GB. I'm sure I could have found some for less but
not that much less. This is the price Cameta Camera was charging and
they had then, and do today, have very competitive pricing. Like all
things computer-related, who would have thought then how the prices for
things would be so low now. I recall waiting in line at CompUSA to buy
an internal hard drive to expand my system. It was being sold for an
unheard-of-price of $150.00. The line was ridiculously long. The hard
drive was 5.7GB (that's five-point-seven).

I remember paying about US$3000 for an 8" 10MB, I couldn't then have
conceived the capacities now available and their price.


I wasn't using a back in those days. My first use was at the office I
work in now about 21 years ago. We used Windows 3.1 then. When I
bought my first PC, it came with Windows 95b and it had a whopping 3 GB
hard drive and a 200mhz processor with (I think) 8MB of memory. It came
with a 15" monitor and a pretty good set of Altec Lansing 2.1 speakers.
It cost around $2,200.00. What I could build with $2,200.00 worth of
components now.
 




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