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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak
announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:12:57 -0500, ASAAR wrote:
NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. It's on several major newspapers - do a simple web search - I think I found it on the Washington Post site - also info on the Kodak site. They are introducing three 'all-in-ones'. Cost of consumables is about 1/2 of the major players. One downer is that the color cartridge has all five colors in one package. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:39:05 -0700, ray wrote:
It's on several major newspapers - do a simple web search - I think I found it on the Washington Post site - also info on the Kodak site. They are introducing three 'all-in-ones'. Cost of consumables is about 1/2 of the major players. One downer is that the color cartridge has all five colors in one package. Yep. Less than I expected, but how often do businesses try to downplay their announcements. I wonder if the low cost estimate took the cost of paper into account. Still, if it has a ripple effect and gets other manufacturers to lower the ink costs for their own all-in-ones, it should eventually have a trickle-up effect for their higher end printers. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
ray wrote:
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:12:57 -0500, ASAAR wrote: NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. It's on several major newspapers - do a simple web search - I think I found it on the Washington Post site - also info on the Kodak site. They are introducing three 'all-in-ones'. Cost of consumables is about 1/2 of the major players. One downer is that the color cartridge has all five colors in one package. True, but the fact that they are selling this ink...which is *Pigment based*...for this price...is huge. HP...Take notice!! HP has made their ink carts smaller...and smaller...and smaller, while the price has skyrocketed. It's a total racket now. Kodak may well sell me a printer in a month or two... -And I've already got 4 hooked up to this computer... NONE of which are Kodak...and ALL of which slurp up over-priced inks. I say, "GIVE EM HECK, KODAK!!" -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
ASAAR wrote:
NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. Saw it in the local paper today. The interesting aspect is that prices for the cartridges, $9.99 for black and $14.95 for color. Both inks are 'lifetime' type inks. The printers, however, are somewhat more expensive, allowing them to make a profit on the printer, and sell the cartridges for less profit. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
ASAAR wrote:
NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. It is good news. I wonder who is making the printers for Kodak? Assuming that Canon/Epson/HP wouldn't want to play the game, perhaps Brother or Lexmark? Epson have considerable room to move. US price of their consumables is approximately 50% higher than Japan, and European customers pay more than double. Epson advertise their printers (identical to US/European models, but with different model names/numbers) with JBMIA standard photo yield data indicating prices more consistent with Kodak's new claims than the expected $0.30 or more in the US market. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:39:38 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:
Saw it in the local paper today. The interesting aspect is that prices for the cartridges, $9.99 for black and $14.95 for color. Both inks are 'lifetime' type inks. The printers, however, are somewhat more expensive, allowing them to make a profit on the printer, and sell the cartridges for less profit. And isn't that what so many have been asking for? I wonder how much ink the cartridges hold. Still, $25 for both is a good deal less than the $66 it cost for a color and b/w cart. for my old HP printer, or twice that price for the cart's HP fills with more ink. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
frederick wrote:
ASAAR wrote: NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. It is good news. I wonder who is making the printers for Kodak? Assuming that Canon/Epson/HP wouldn't want to play the game, perhaps Brother or Lexmark? Epson have considerable room to move. US price of their consumables is approximately 50% higher than Japan, and European customers pay more than double. Epson advertise their printers (identical to US/European models, but with different model names/numbers) with JBMIA standard photo yield data indicating prices more consistent with Kodak's new claims than the expected $0.30 or more in the US market. I doubt it's Lexmark. I don't know of any pigment inks by them, and they couldn't produce a decent printer to save their lives. If it pushes ink prices downward, then they'll have accomplished something. But I think HP has so attached their company to "free" printers and a mint for the ink, that it won't be easy for them to respond so quickly. ASSAR missed the point. The comparison shouldn't be against on-line printers. The comparison should be against home-printing alternatives. In that contest, the Kodak figures are FAR cheaper. But that's not the only breakthrough. The other is that they're offering PIGMENT INKS at that price, which is a real breakthrough. When Kodak says they are of equal quality to their own lab prints, that is a significant statement. And regarding "high-priced printers and cheap ink"...we're NOT talking expensive printers here. The three models range from $150USD to $300. Hardly breaking the bank, and actually less than competing models from HP that use inferior inks. It's a big deal, and I'm happy someone is bucking HP &Co.'s scam of selling ink at the price of titanium. -- Images (Plus Snaps & Grabs) by MarkČ at: www.pbase.com/markuson |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
At $14.99 for the 5 color ink cartridge compared to 5 color ink cartridges
for say the Epson 320 that is a lot cheaper than half. The question is what are you paying for in the printer. Cheap and lame scanner, fax, document scanner, copier function or a good quality high resolution photo printer. My bet the ink maybe cheaper but the print quality isn't going to cut the mustard. Also, no mention on available papers, how long the print live or anything else. Since Kodak these days aren't exactly known for top of the line consumer products, I think I would pass. ljc "ray" wrote in message news On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:12:57 -0500, ASAAR wrote: NPR's Marketplace reported shortly after 6:00 PM that Kodak announced a new line of printers that would potentially change the printer market. There was no technological breakthrough announced. Instead, Kodak plans to sell printers for higher prices, and cut the ink cost at least in half. The report added that it would allow Kodak's printers to make 4" x 6" prints for 10 cents vs. a typical 15 cent cost using online printing services. I didn't hear any mention of where the announcement was made or where it was reported. I'm guessing that it will have been reported in the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, but I haven't spotted anything on the NYT home page, its Technology or Business sections, so it may have been announced too late to make it into these papers. It's on several major newspapers - do a simple web search - I think I found it on the Washington Post site - also info on the Kodak site. They are introducing three 'all-in-ones'. Cost of consumables is about 1/2 of the major players. One downer is that the color cartridge has all five colors in one package. |
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Kodak announces printer breakthrough
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 18:26:35 -0800, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even
pointer_outer wrote: ASSAR missed the point. The comparison shouldn't be against on-line printers. There was no point to miss. I didn't editorialize, but just repeated what was said by the "Marketplace" reporter. I do have doubts about the accuracy of the 4x6 price comparison, since unlike the ink kit for Epson's little printer, which allows total costs to be easily understood, Kodak's kit doesn't include any paper, or I should more accurately say that there is no kit. You just buy ink. But since as you said, the new Kodak printers supposedly now use pigment based ink, will this ink have also been formulated to work best with existing Kodak print paper which presumably was designed for dye based ink? Or was that a point that *you* missed? |
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