If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
In article ,
RichA says... https://petapixel.com/2018/02/16/ene...a-5-batteries/ He tries to save a few dollars on the batteries, but then is using an expensive Mac instead of a much cheaper PC. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: https://petapixel.com/2018/02/16/ene...-ladda-5-batte ries/ He tries to save a few dollars on the batteries, but then is using an expensive Mac instead of a much cheaper PC. you have *no* idea how much he paid for his macbook. chances are it cost *less* than a similar pc laptop. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
On 2018-02-17 15:04, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , RichA says... https://petapixel.com/2018/02/16/ene...a-5-batteries/ He tries to save a few dollars on the batteries, but then is using an expensive Mac instead of a much cheaper PC. My last expensive Mac sold, used, after 6 years, for more than people pay for middle of the road Windows PC's and that cash offset the cost of this Mac which will eventually sell for more than ... well, you get the picture. Never mind the quality of the display on Macs that doesn't come with the "bundles" that are so appealing with PC offers. Never mind time saved by not dealing with Windows issues, one after the next. Never mind that Apple major OS updates are free. Never mind that there is a single flavour of Mac OS for all kinds of use. (None of the low value idiocy of Windows editions (home, student, professional). -- “When it is all said and done, there are approximately 94 million full-time workers in private industry paying taxes to support 102 million non-workers and 21 million government workers. In what world does this represent a strong job market?” ..Jim Quinn |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
In article , Alan Browne
says... My last expensive Mac sold, used, after 6 years, for more than people pay for middle of the road Windows PC's and that cash offset the cost of this Mac which will eventually sell for more than ... well, you get the picture. Never mind the quality of the display on Macs that doesn't come with the "bundles" that are so appealing with PC offers. Never mind time saved by not dealing with Windows issues, one after the next. Never mind that Apple major OS updates are free. Never mind that there is a single flavour of Mac OS for all kinds of use. (None of the low value idiocy of Windows editions (home, student, professional). All these issue do not exist with this PC I'm using right now. And in any case, after 6 years a PC is totally depreciated and you buy a new one. 500 Euro every 6 years is not much. In any case, it's absurd to save a few Euro on some batteries, which are critical things (poor quality ones tend to run out of power in the worst possible moments). Better to spend a few more Euro and have reliable batteries. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs)
told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those used in consumer products). Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good idea buying a 6 years old computer. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs) told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those used in consumer products). no they don't. Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good idea buying a 6 years old computer. nonsense. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
On 2018-02-17 23:36:51 +0000, nospam said:
In article , Alfred Molon wrote: Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs) told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those used in consumer products). no they don't. Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good idea buying a 6 years old computer. nonsense. Not non sense.The heat of daily use degrades any material like the transistors in solid state amplifiers. The computer chips are miniatyrs of traditional circuits and should degrade faste than, let's say my now de****ed Luxman amp! :-ppp http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/232587-luxman_l210_integrated_amp_luxman_t210l_tuner.jpg -- teleportation kills |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
On 17/02/2018 23:30, Alfred Molon wrote:
Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs) told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those used in consumer products). Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good idea buying a 6 years old computer. That sounds unlikely to me. Do you have any evidence beyond that anecdote? -- Cheers, Rob |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
On 2018-02-17 18:30, Alfred Molon wrote:
Another thing, a guy who works for Intel (he analyses defects in CPUs) told me that processors degrade over time, i.e. they age (at least those used in consumer products). Apparently over time CPU develop defects, which make them slower or might even cause them to stop working completely. If so, it's not a good idea buying a 6 years old computer. What can happen is build up of dust causes over heating, so the CPU automatically slows its clock and runs slower. Some articles also cite thermal paste degradation over time. Both can be rectified easily. Oscillators also "drift" over time. You would notice this as much as observers would note the effects of Special Relativity of cars driving on the Autobahn at higher speeds. -- “When it is all said and done, there are approximately 94 million full-time workers in private industry paying taxes to support 102 million non-workers and 21 million government workers. In what world does this represent a strong job market?” ..Jim Quinn |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Enerloop batteries overpriced?
In article , Alan Browne
says... What can happen is build up of dust causes over heating, so the CPU automatically slows its clock and runs slower. Some articles also cite thermal paste degradation over time. Both can be rectified easily. Oscillators also "drift" over time. You would notice this as much as observers would note the effects of Special Relativity of cars driving on the Autobahn at higher speeds. I'm not an expert. What I understood from that discussion is that the constant heat over time impacts the silicon of the processor. There are pretty tiny structures in the nanometer range which degrade over time, thereby impacting the functionality of the processor. This is from an Intel guy who analyses processor defects, so should be knowledgeable. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Apple iPhone's grossly overpriced batteries severely burn cyclist | nospam | Digital Photography | 18 | August 5th 16 03:22 PM |
Apple iPhone's grossly overpriced batteries severely burn cyclist | Alan Browne | Digital Photography | 0 | August 3rd 16 01:39 PM |
Is the D600 overpriced? | Rich[_6_] | Digital SLR Cameras | 50 | October 8th 12 03:37 PM |