I started a 35mm B&W darkroom forum

Tom Phillips wrote:

...as are X-rays (Man Ray),

Sorry, Man Ray = photograms

In article ,
Dave dave@hennikerDOTorgDOTuk wrote:

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:19:03 GMT, Gregory Blank
somehow managed to impart:

Why post to a darkroom newsgroup then if thats how you feel. Your wrong
btw. Its only those that have half the skills that completely prefer
digital "imop".

I thought this was alt.photography. I used a darkroom for years and am
a former international exhibitor at the Edinburgh Festival. It's the
image that's important, not the method of production.

Guess you thought wrong. Regardless of where and how many times one
exhibits ones works there is always room to learn and remain humble.
I am not tremendously impressed by "credentials".

Many of the best photographers, some of who I actually know, prefer
film cameras, and optical or even contacted prints. Subject is an
equally important element always on par with skill in technique In my
opinion subject is not and excuse for not understanding and seeking
skill in what one does. One can certainly achieve high quality using
conventional materials and equipment if one has patience and talent.

All the gadgets in the world can't give one talent and I take a certain
satisfaction in that. In this field "photo" there are a lot of ego's and
those seeking ego stroking, I btw, have seen them
all. The message I leave you with is this, if you choose to be humble
you can learn a lot and people will seek to help you. If you choose
otherwise people will blow you off as just another asshole, the choice is
ultimately ours in how we initially are perceived.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
Dave dave@hennikerDOTorgDOTuk wrote:

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:19:03 GMT, Gregory Blank
somehow managed to impart:

Why post to a darkroom newsgroup then if thats how you feel. Your wrong
btw. Its only those that have half the skills that completely prefer
digital "imop".

I thought this was alt.photography. I used a darkroom for years and am
a former international exhibitor at the Edinburgh Festival. It's the
image that's important, not the method of production.

Guess you thought wrong. Regardless of where and how many times one
exhibits ones works there is always room to learn and remain humble.
I am not tremendously impressed by "credentials".

Many of the best photographers, some of who I actually know, prefer
film cameras, and optical or even contacted prints. Subject is an
equally important element always on par with skill in technique In my
opinion subject is not and excuse for not understanding and seeking
skill in what one does. One can certainly achieve high quality using
conventional materials and equipment if one has patience and talent.

All the gadgets in the world can't give one talent and I take a certain
satisfaction in that. In this field "photo" there are a lot of ego's and
those seeking ego stroking, I btw, have seen them
all. The message I leave you with is this, if you choose to be humble
you can learn a lot and people will seek to help you. If you choose
otherwise people will blow you off as just another asshole, the choice is
ultimately ours in how we initially are perceived.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Sorry, piantings are not 'images'. Only lenses acn form images in the
strict sense of the term.

By the way, digital photographs and chemical photographs both 'sample'
the image produced by the lens. The film contains individual particles
of silver, each of which reacts independently of any of the others.
There are no 'continuous tones'. Each particle of silver is independent
and in no way a continuation of another. The 'greys' are simply black
particles in lower concentrations.

Sorry, paintings are not 'images'. Only lenses acn form images in the
strict sense of the term.

By the way, digital photographs and chemical photographs both 'sample'
the image produced by the lens. The film contains individual particles
of silver, each of which reacts independently of any of the others.
There are no 'continuous tones'. Each particle of silver is independent
and in no way a continuation of another. The 'greys' are simply black
particles in lower concentrations.

Sorry, paintings are not 'images'. Only lenses can form images in the
strict sense of the term.

By the way, digital photographs and chemical photographs both 'sample'
the image produced by the lens. The film contains individual particles
of silver, each of which reacts independently of any of the others.
There are no 'continuous tones'. Each particle of silver is independent
and in no way a continuation of another. The 'greys' are simply black
particles in lower concentrations.

wrote:

Sorry, piantings are not 'images'. Only lenses acn form images in the
strict sense of the term.

Camera obscura and painting. read a book

By the way, digital photographs and chemical photographs both 'sample'

no.

the image produced by the lens. The film contains individual particles
of silver, each of which reacts independently of any of the others.
There are no 'continuous tones'. Each particle of silver is independent
and in no way a continuation of another. The 'greys' are simply black
particles in lower concentrations.

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:

wrote:

Sorry, piantings are not 'images'. Only lenses acn form images in the
strict sense of the term.

Camera obscura and painting. read a book

And then there are also pin hole cameras.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:

wrote:

Sorry, piantings are not 'images'. Only lenses acn form images in the
strict sense of the term.

Camera obscura and painting. read a book

And then there are also pin hole cameras.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Gregory Blank wrote:

In article ,
Tom Phillips wrote:

wrote:

Sorry, piantings are not 'images'. Only lenses acn form images in the
strict sense of the term.

Camera obscura and painting. read a book

And then there are also pin hole cameras.

Which was used to produce dioramas, i.e.,
paintings traced from pinhole images.

I think scarpitti (alias uranium, alias me, alias...)
should change his troll handle to "ignoramus."