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Old January 28th 11, 09:39 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after being hit
in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in Tunis while covering
the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...ouk-dolega-32/


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Savageduck

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Old January 29th 11, 08:10 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 1/28/2011 10:56 PM Rich spake thus:

On Jan 28, 4:39 pm, Savageduck
wrote:

French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after being
hit in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in Tunis while
covering the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...-lucas-mebrouk...


Maybe like hockey players did, one day they'll finally start wearing
protective helmets during riots in violent, Third World ratholes?
Even a bike helmet would have saved the guy.


I'm sure Tunisians would love to hear their country referred to that way
.... but of course, who cares about them? Their lives aren't worth as
much as ours are.


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To me, the *plonk...* reminds me of the old man at the public hearing
who stands to make his point, then removes his hearing aid as a sign
that he is not going to hear any rebuttals.
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Old January 29th 11, 09:59 AM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 2011-01-28 22:56:58 -0800, Rich said:

On Jan 28, 4:39*pm, Savageduck wrote:
French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after being hit
in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in Tunis while covering
the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...-lucas-mebrouk...



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Regards,

Savageduck


Maybe like hockey players did, one day they'll finally start wearing
protective helmets during riots in violent, Third World ratholes?
Even a bike helmet would have saved the guy.


Since photographers started getting "up close" in combat zones they
wore the protective available when they could. That didn't help Capa in
Vietnam when he tripped that mine. It didn't help Joao Silva last year
when that IED took his legs off. Not wearing anything didn't help Tim
Page when he received his many disturbing injuries.
All the metal in this Nikon
http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ichinse-01cw.jpg didn't help
Taizo Ichinose in Cambodia.
In some civil disturbances some photographers/press are able to wear
full Kevlar, helmet & vest. However most choose not to, only wearing an
identifying non-protective "press vest". Sometimes all they have is the
camera. Sometimes they can be the target of either side, The Balkans in
the 190's saw a high casualty rate among photo-journalists even]though
they wore Kevlar. Sometimes they are caught in the middle of things
with nowhere to go and nothing to protect them while they do their work.

These guys put themselves out there, sometimes for little reward. This
is not the World of the wedding, or fashion photographer, though I
would imagine there might be times those guys would like to have
protective gear handy

I suggest you see James Nachtwey at work. This was a shot of him in the
incident when Ken Ooserbroek was killed in South Africa.
http://www.peterdeanrickards.com/201...6/inspiration/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwbKP...eature=related

and his address when receiving the TED award in 2007 (about 20 minutes);
http://www.ted.com/talks/james_nacht...es_of_war.html

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Savageduck

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Old January 29th 11, 02:22 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 1/28/2011 4:39 PM, Savageduck wrote:

French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after being hit in
the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in Tunis while covering the
disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...ouk-dolega-32/


Those guys put as much on the line, with less backup than the bravest of
troops. I have nothing but admiration for them.


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Old January 29th 11, 02:24 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 1/29/2011 1:56 AM, Rich wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:39 pm, wrote:
French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after being hit
in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in Tunis while covering
the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...-lucas-mebrouk...



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Regards,

Savageduck


Maybe like hockey players did, one day they'll finally start wearing
protective helmets during riots in violent, Third World ratholes?
Even a bike helmet would have saved the guy.


Typical comment from you. Why don't you volunteer to go. Make sure you
wear your bicycle helmet.

BTW did you start your economics courses?

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Peter
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Old January 29th 11, 02:41 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Default Another Photo-Journalist added to the roll of honor.

On 1/29/2011 3:10 AM, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 1/28/2011 10:56 PM Rich spake thus:

On Jan 28, 4:39 pm, Savageduck
wrote:

French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after being
hit in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in Tunis while
covering the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...-lucas-mebrouk...


Maybe like hockey players did, one day they'll finally start wearing
protective helmets during riots in violent, Third World ratholes?
Even a bike helmet would have saved the guy.


I'm sure Tunisians would love to hear their country referred to that way
... but of course, who cares about them? Their lives aren't worth as
much as ours are.


That's true. But what's the exchange rate?


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Old January 29th 11, 04:56 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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There was an Iraq war video on wikileaks showing a US helicopter
machine-gunning an AP photographer in Bahgdad. Apparently the guy on the
helicopter mistook the camera of the photographer as an RPG device.
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Old January 29th 11, 06:00 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 2011-01-29 08:56:48 -0800, Alfred Molon said:

There was an Iraq war video on wikileaks showing a US helicopter
machine-gunning an AP photographer in Bahgdad. Apparently the guy on the
helicopter mistook the camera of the photographer as an RPG device.


Not nearly as bad as US Air Force F4 fighters strafing two US Coast
Guard patrol boats in Vietnam with rockets & 20mm fire, killing Navy
and Coast Guard crew on both patrol boats and seriously wounding Tim
Page who had hitched a ride to get some photographs on the patrol. The
US Army then billed Page $400 for medical treatment. Page stapled that
bill to a clipping of the story which had run in Time magazine, and
mailed it to the Commanding General of the 7th Air Force at Ton Son
Nhut AF base. He heard no more.
He left VN for about a year, recovering in NYC, and then return to 'nam
via Israel. That was when, in 1968, he received the wound which almost
killed him, when a piece of shrapnel drove through his brain leaving
him paralyzed on one side of his body.

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Savageduck

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Old January 29th 11, 07:09 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 1/29/2011 6:41 AM Bowser spake thus:

On 1/29/2011 3:10 AM, David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 1/28/2011 10:56 PM Rich spake thus:

On Jan 28, 4:39 pm, Savageduck
wrote:

French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after
being hit in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in
Tunis while covering the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...-lucas-mebrouk...



Maybe like hockey players did, one day they'll finally start
wearing protective helmets during riots in violent, Third World
ratholes? Even a bike helmet would have saved the guy.


I'm sure Tunisians would love to hear their country referred to
that way ... but of course, who cares about them? Their lives
aren't worth as much as ours are.


That's true. But what's the exchange rate?


Pretty easily calculated, using news stories in the MSM and their
relative ranking (i.e., page placement in the newspaper, etc.).

I figure it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 50:1 to 100:1.


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Comment on quaint Usenet customs, from Usenet:

To me, the *plonk...* reminds me of the old man at the public hearing
who stands to make his point, then removes his hearing aid as a sign
that he is not going to hear any rebuttals.
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Old January 29th 11, 08:49 PM posted to alt.photography,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 2011-01-29 11:09:09 -0800, David Nebenzahl said:

On 1/29/2011 6:41 AM Bowser spake thus:

On 1/29/2011 3:10 AM, David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 1/28/2011 10:56 PM Rich spake thus:

On Jan 28, 4:39 pm, Savageduck wrote:

French photo-journalist Lucas Mebrouk Dolega 32, dies after
being hit in the head by a police fired tear gas grenade in
Tunis while covering the disturbances in Tunis for Paris Match.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/0...-lucas-mebrouk...



Maybe like hockey players did, one day they'll finally start
wearing protective helmets during riots in violent, Third World
ratholes? Even a bike helmet would have saved the guy.

I'm sure Tunisians would love to hear their country referred to
that way ... but of course, who cares about them? Their lives
aren't worth as much as ours are.


That's true. But what's the exchange rate?


Pretty easily calculated, using news stories in the MSM and their
relative ranking (i.e., page placement in the newspaper, etc.).

I figure it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 50:1 to 100:1.


As of 09:45AM, 1/29/2011, 1.41 Tunisian Dinar = $1US = €0.74
(...er, there's an Ap for that)

So your wide range guesstimate was not too close.

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Savageduck

 




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