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Olympus dalliance with DSLRs over?
In rec.photo.digital Bruce wrote:
No it doesn't! It looks good for DSLRs until you realise, from Page 17, that Olympus considers Micro Four Thirds to be a digital SLR. There is no mention of Four Thirds anywhere in the document. Thanks to Page 17, all DSLR references are to *Micro* Four Thirds. Well, m4/3 is closer to a DSLR than anything else (it's at least "DSL"), and the only other option specifically mentioned in imaging is "Compact Digital cameras", which is clearly not how Olympus is positioning m4/3. "All A are B" is not the same thing as "All B are A", as most of us learned in high school math, remember? Just because "All m4/3 are DSLRs" doesn't mean "All DSLRs are m4/3." We know with good certainty that the "E-5" will be announced around Photokina this year, so the idea that they're about to drop the entire 4/3 line is, in a word, silly, and divining this from reading the tea leaves of four bullet points is doubly so. More general thoughts...this "strategic plan" is the worst kind of boardroom babble. They actually say "maximizing synergies"! "We will be admired in international society..." Oh, I see, as opposed to all those other businesses whose goal is to be despised. This is hardly unusual for business presentations, but I hope, for Olympus' sake, that this is just the handout, and there's a meatier planning document around somewhere. -- Oh to have a lodge in some vast wilderness. Where rumors of oppression and deceit, of unsuccessful and successful wars may never reach me anymore. -- William Cowper, 1731 - 1800 |
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Olympus dalliance with DSLRs over?
On 24/05/10 10:18 AM, Bruce wrote:
snip Meanwhile, Micro Four Thirds is a spectacular success. It makes sense for Olympus to concentrate on Micro Four Thirds. Huh? Why don't you ever see anyone with a micro 4:3 camera. Go to a popular vista point in a place like Yosemite where it looks like a D-SLR convention is being held and look for a micro 4:3 camera. I've never seen one, at least not in March 2010. Meanwhile you see loads of the latest Canon and Nikon models. I've also never seen one for sale in a store that sells interchangeable lens cameras. |
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Olympus dalliance with DSLRs over?
On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:30:17 -0700, John Navas
wrote: On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:24:17 -0700, SMS wrote in : On 24/05/10 10:18 AM, Bruce wrote: snip Meanwhile, Micro Four Thirds is a spectacular success. It makes sense for Olympus to concentrate on Micro Four Thirds. Huh? Why don't you ever see anyone with a micro 4:3 camera. Go to a popular vista point in a place like Yosemite where it looks like a D-SLR convention is being held and look for a micro 4:3 camera. I've never seen one, at least not in March 2010. Meanwhile you see loads of the latest Canon and Nikon models. I've also never seen one for sale in a store that sells interchangeable lens cameras. You really do need to get out more. SMS only gets out to imaginary parks with imaginary cameras where he installs his imaginary computer-controlled geyser systems. http://www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showpost.php?p=448381&postcount=101 |
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Olympus dalliance with DSLRs over?
On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:30:17 -0700, John Navas
wrote: On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:24:17 -0700, SMS wrote in : On 24/05/10 10:18 AM, Bruce wrote: snip Meanwhile, Micro Four Thirds is a spectacular success. It makes sense for Olympus to concentrate on Micro Four Thirds. Huh? Why don't you ever see anyone with a micro 4:3 camera. Go to a popular vista point in a place like Yosemite where it looks like a D-SLR convention is being held and look for a micro 4:3 camera. I've never seen one, at least not in March 2010. Meanwhile you see loads of the latest Canon and Nikon models. I've also never seen one for sale in a store that sells interchangeable lens cameras. You really do need to get out more. SMS only gets out to imaginary parks with imaginary cameras where he installs his imaginary computer-controlled geyser systems. http://www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showpost.php?p=448381&postcount=101 Damn, the board is down. Well, this still has all of SMS's wonderful deranged imaginings ... http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fx7ngKAr4MsJ:www.wifi-forum.com/wf/showthread.php%3Fp%3D448388 |
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Olympus dalliance with DSLRs over?
In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Bruce wrote:
So there's going to be an "E-5"? .... Meanwhile, Olympus will support (but not invest in) the E-System for the sake of existing users. Hey, don't take it from me. "Toshiyuki Terada, or 'Toshi', manages the Olympus SLR product planning team in Tokyo, Japan. .... All Toshi would say was that his team are definitely working on the next generation of Four Thirds products... .... Speculation that Olympus was abandoning conventional optical viewfinder DSLRs in as little as two years was also dismissed. .... I asked Toshi if, now that the Pen E-PL1 had been launched, the product development resources within Olympus would now be weighted more towards Four Thirds and the E-System line. Toshi's reaction was almost one of curiosity; implying surprise that I thought that R&D had been pulled off Four Thirds in the first place. "Many technological developments are common to both and new features that you see in our Pen cameras will also be applied to future E-System cameras," Toshi explained, adding: "We could not have separated our Micro Four Thirds and Four Thirds development effort; it would not have worked that way."" http://fourthirds-user.com/2010/03/lunch_with_olympus_manager_of_slr_product_planning .php That interview was published on March 17th of this year, only a little over 60 days ago. But hey, you think whatever you want. Under these circumstances, the only DSLR purchases that make any sense are those from Canon and Nikon. None of the other brands can be guaranteed to be in production in three years' time. I would be willing to lay money on the proposition that Olympus will still be making DSLRs in three years. -- Oh to have a lodge in some vast wilderness. Where rumors of oppression and deceit, of unsuccessful and successful wars may never reach me anymore. -- William Cowper, 1731 - 1800 |
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Olympus dalliance with DSLRs over?
On 24/05/10 10:18 AM, Bruce wrote:
Under these circumstances, the only DSLR purchases that make any sense are those from Canon and Nikon. None of the other brands can be guaranteed to be in production in three years' time. True, if you want to be sure of an upgrade path and continued availability of lenses and accessories, you do not want to stray from Canon or Nikon. Choosing a D-SLR body is almost like getting married--divorces are messy and expensive. It's pretty sad that no other D-SLR system has even been able to reach 10% market share, and other than Sony, they're not even in the high single digits. You see the results in terms of product offerings. Other than Sony, no one has the resources to invest in sensor development so they fall further and further behind. You're also stuck with inferior in-body VR/IS because other than Canon and Nikon no one has the resources to invest in lens development. Olympus also has the problem that they can't increase the sensor size on 4:3. Canon and Nikon can do APS-C or full frame (or anything in-between) and in most cases you can use the same lenses (though you can use EF-s lenses with an adapter on Canon full-frame models you really wouldn't want to do this). There may be a market for interchangeable lens P&S cameras like Micro 4:3 and Sony NEX. NEX is too new to know its chances, but Micro 4:3 sales have been underwhelming. |
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