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A Different GDR Tool
In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on
an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl -- Regards, Savageduck |
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A Different GDR Tool
On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said:
In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ....and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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A Different GDR Tool
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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A Different GDR Tool
On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? The Bugatti was shot at ISO 400, the aperture was a constant f/5.0 and the exposure bracket was controlled by shutter speed: 1/1250; 1/2000; 1/800; 1/500; & 1/320. This effectively gave me a -2: -1: 0: +1: +2 EV exposure bracket, basically a 4 stop range. I could have adjusted that upward by going to a 7, or 9 shot bracket. The "Shillelagh" was shot at ISO 200 @ f/10.0. 1/640; 1/320; 1/160; 1/80; & 1/40. I suppose if I upgraded my D300S to a D7200, or a D750 I wouldn't have to bother fooling with HDR. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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A Different GDR (Should be HDR) Tool
On 2015-03-04 22:08:16 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? The Bugatti was shot at ISO 400, the aperture was a constant f/5.0 and the exposure bracket was controlled by shutter speed: 1/1250; 1/2000; 1/800; 1/500; & 1/320. This effectively gave me a -2: -1: 0: +1: +2 EV exposure bracket, basically a 4 stop range. I could have adjusted that upward by going to a 7, or 9 shot bracket. The "Shillelagh" was shot at ISO 200 @ f/10.0. 1/640; 1/320; 1/160; 1/80; & 1/40. I suppose if I upgraded my D300S to a D7200, or a D750 I wouldn't have to bother fooling with HDR. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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A Different GDR (Should be HDR) Tool
On 2015-03-04 22:11:29 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2015-03-04 22:08:16 +0000, Savageduck said: On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. In this shot the ghost correction was very telling as the guy polishing had his head and right hand in a different position in each of the 5 frames. In 2 of the frames his head and hand were blurred. https://db.tt/E5zVA9FC ....and again it was a -2; -1; 0; +1; +2, 5 shot EV bracket. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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A Different GDR Tool
On 3/4/2015 5:08 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? The Bugatti was shot at ISO 400, the aperture was a constant f/5.0 and the exposure bracket was controlled by shutter speed: 1/1250; 1/2000; 1/800; 1/500; & 1/320. This effectively gave me a -2: -1: 0: +1: +2 EV exposure bracket, basically a 4 stop range. I could have adjusted that upward by going to a 7, or 9 shot bracket. The "Shillelagh" was shot at ISO 200 @ f/10.0. 1/640; 1/320; 1/160; 1/80; & 1/40. I suppose if I upgraded my D300S to a D7200, or a D750 I wouldn't have to bother fooling with HDR. I like the "Shillelagh" shot a lot, but something bothers me about the water in those gray-green sunlit areas, like near the bow of the Irene M and under the dock. IMHO, it has a bit of HDR feel and also seems a bit too smooth/ripple free in those spots. However, the smoothness could just be the boats blocking the wind. ~~ I went ghost hunting and zoomed in on the birds and people. I couldn't see any bird ghosting and just a little on the people. I'm surprised there's no trace of ghosting in the rigging. You've got me wondering what the best single exposure of the "Shillelagh" looks like in comparison to the HDR. == Later... Ron C -- |
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A Different GDR Tool
On 2015-03-04 23:55:41 +0000, Ron C said:
On 3/4/2015 5:08 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? The Bugatti was shot at ISO 400, the aperture was a constant f/5.0 and the exposure bracket was controlled by shutter speed: 1/1250; 1/2000; 1/800; 1/500; & 1/320. This effectively gave me a -2: -1: 0: +1: +2 EV exposure bracket, basically a 4 stop range. I could have adjusted that upward by going to a 7, or 9 shot bracket. The "Shillelagh" was shot at ISO 200 @ f/10.0. 1/640; 1/320; 1/160; 1/80; & 1/40. I suppose if I upgraded my D300S to a D7200, or a D750 I wouldn't have to bother fooling with HDR. I like the "Shillelagh" shot a lot, but something bothers me about the water in those gray-green sunlit areas, like near the bow of the Irene M and under the dock. IMHO, it has a bit of HDR feel and also seems a bit too smooth/ripple free in those spots. However, the smoothness could just be the boats blocking the wind. ~~ I went ghost hunting and zoomed in on the birds and people. I couldn't see any bird ghosting and just a little on the people. I'm surprised there's no trace of ghosting in the rigging. You've got me wondering what the best single exposure of the "Shillelagh" looks like in comparison to the HDR. Here is a single exposure of "Shillelagh", with minimal NEF adjustment in LR. https://db.tt/kNIUwtKS ....and the full EXIF story: http://regex.info/exif.cgi?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxuserconten t.com%2Fu%2F1295663%2FDemo%2FDNC_7727-Edit.jpg ....or http://tinyurl.com/nkcbegm -- Regards, Savageduck |
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A Different GDR Tool
On 3/4/2015 8:18 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-03-04 23:55:41 +0000, Ron C said: On 3/4/2015 5:08 PM, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? The Bugatti was shot at ISO 400, the aperture was a constant f/5.0 and the exposure bracket was controlled by shutter speed: 1/1250; 1/2000; 1/800; 1/500; & 1/320. This effectively gave me a -2: -1: 0: +1: +2 EV exposure bracket, basically a 4 stop range. I could have adjusted that upward by going to a 7, or 9 shot bracket. The "Shillelagh" was shot at ISO 200 @ f/10.0. 1/640; 1/320; 1/160; 1/80; & 1/40. I suppose if I upgraded my D300S to a D7200, or a D750 I wouldn't have to bother fooling with HDR. I like the "Shillelagh" shot a lot, but something bothers me about the water in those gray-green sunlit areas, like near the bow of the Irene M and under the dock. IMHO, it has a bit of HDR feel and also seems a bit too smooth/ripple free in those spots. However, the smoothness could just be the boats blocking the wind. ~~ I went ghost hunting and zoomed in on the birds and people. I couldn't see any bird ghosting and just a little on the people. I'm surprised there's no trace of ghosting in the rigging. You've got me wondering what the best single exposure of the "Shillelagh" looks like in comparison to the HDR. Here is a single exposure of "Shillelagh", with minimal NEF adjustment in LR. https://db.tt/kNIUwtKS ...and the full EXIF story: http://regex.info/exif.cgi?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxuserconten t.com%2Fu%2F1295663%2FDemo%2FDNC_7727-Edit.jpg ...or http://tinyurl.com/nkcbegm Thanks for the added context. I take back everything I said about the grey-green areas. == Later... Ron C -- |
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A Different GDR (Should be HDR) Tool
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:11:29 -0800, Savageduck
wrote: On 2015-03-04 22:08:16 +0000, Savageduck said: On 2015-03-04 21:02:02 +0000, Eric Stevens said: On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:04:22 -0800, Savageduck wrote: On 2015-03-04 19:25:52 +0000, Savageduck said: In the April edition of Photoshop User magazine, which was focused on an editorial theme I am not particularly intrested in, wedding photography, I found in the "Product Review" section, a review on Unified Color's "HDR Express 3". HDR Express 3 is a trimmed version of their top of the line "HDR Expose 3" and the review was enough to bait me into visiting their web site. To cut to the chase, I have dowloaded the 30 day trial. It installs as a stand-alone, and PS, & LR plug-ins. I have run a few tests of some old 5 exposure bracket sets, and I am impressed. I deliberately picked sets which had major ghosting issues due to movement of people in the background. This was an issue neither NIK HDR Efex Pro 2, nor PS HDR Pro have not been able to solve completely. HDR Express dealt with the ghost movement & image alignment easily. Then for those not favoring the surreal look of much HDR rendering this seems to aim at producing realistically rendered images, and does so quite succesfully. They have a fair number of video tutorials available and I think this is going to be my future go-to HDR tool Just as another image processing tool to play with, give the trial a test. http://www.unifiedcolor.com/products/hdr-express-3 Here is the result for my set with the ghosting problem, shared with Adobe CC & DB sharing; http://adobe.ly/18kdrTj https://db.tt/SveGaRIl ...and here is another 5 exposure HDR with a ghosting issue, namely the folks walking on the pier, and birds. https://db.tt/y2GSamf5 Those are all darned good shots and I wouldn't have known they were HDR unless you told me. Thanks for that. I was primarily checking to see how HDR Express 3 dealt with ghosts, and reasonably "natural" appearing images. Both of those sets were good for checking that. Can you tell us the magnitude of the dynamic range (stops) covered by the images that were used to make the final HDR? The Bugatti was shot at ISO 400, the aperture was a constant f/5.0 and the exposure bracket was controlled by shutter speed: 1/1250; 1/2000; 1/800; 1/500; & 1/320. This effectively gave me a -2: -1: 0: +1: +2 EV exposure bracket, basically a 4 stop range. I could have adjusted that upward by going to a 7, or 9 shot bracket. The "Shillelagh" was shot at ISO 200 @ f/10.0. 1/640; 1/320; 1/160; 1/80; & 1/40. I suppose if I upgraded my D300S to a D7200, or a D750 I wouldn't have to bother fooling with HDR. I wasn't going to mention that, but that was in the back of my mind. After posting the chart http://home.comcast.net/~NikonD70/Ch...#D70,D300,D750 it occurred to me to wonder about HDR. More to the point, in the few shots I have edited from the D750 I noticed that the histogram is rarely clipped and always is very well positioned within the camera range. I've been keeping Paintshop Pro for it's embedded Nik HDR but it requires manual editing to cope with ghosting and at the best of times produces rather surreal images. See https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31088803/_DSC5447_8_9_50_51_Detail_Original.jpg HDR express sounds just what I need and I will be interested in hearing whether or not you go ahead and buy it. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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