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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 9:58 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Nov 24, 2017, Ron C wrote (in ): On 11/24/2017 8:14 PM, PeterN wrote: On 11/24/2017 7:52 PM, Ron C wrote: snip I haven't been following this thread, just dropped in to check on potentially interesting thread drift. Oddly, I'm with nospam on the ads thing. Seems one of the first things I did when I set up Win 10 was to turn off all the tiles. The big pain for me is that I have Win 10 on a machine that I use infrequently. Seems just about every time I use the machine it installs updates that take ages to install. It took 10+ minutes to boot this afternoon because it was updating/installing something; 10+ minutes with that sick greenish-yellow screen with the spinning dots. It's a rare occasion, that I agree with nospam. I agree with you too. My purpose for computing is to get things done. Those freak-en ads are a major distraction. I suspect there is a legal way of blocking them, If you really want to experience ad overload try an Amazon Fire. My old tablet died and I recently got an Amazon Fire to replace it. Seems all the built in apps are just an up-sell conduit to some Amazon product or service. Hell, I have wi-fi turned off and the start-up lock screen still shows (apparently pre-loaded) ads. I could go on... but enough on that for now... Interesting. I don’t have that sort of ad issue with my iPad Pro which I use to stream Amazon Prime, Netflix, and other streaming content via my home network. I am also an Amazon Prime subscriber with the various Amazon Prime apps installed, along with the iOS version of Kindle, and with those I have an ad free environment. I have some free weather apps where the adds are persistent, but that is about it. Had I been able to take the Fire (and/or some other tablet) for a prolonged "test drive" I probably would have made a different choice. ~~ Ah, live and learn... -- == Later... Ron C -- |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 9:31 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"PeterN" wrote | You're probably at more risk as an Apple fan because | you're used to a product that's designed to keep you | in their private AOL-style shopping venue. | | | Yeah! It seems every time I open iTunes on my Win10 machine, it tries to | take me to the store to buy something at the iTunes store. | Hard to sympathize with that. "Seems like every time I hang around with my drug dealer I end up losing money and getting an STD." Yep. You are conflating different issues. I was forced to use AOL mail servers, after Verizon purchased AOL. When I need to use web mail, I am bombarded with ads. AOL wants about five bucks a month to turn of the ads. About a month before the AOL announcement, I entered into a two year agreement with Verizon. All I am at liberty to say is that I am in the middle of discussions at a corporate level. -- PeterN |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
"PeterN" wrote
| | | | Yeah! It seems every time I open iTunes on my Win10 machine, it tries to | | take me to the store to buy something at the iTunes store. | | | | Hard to sympathize with that. "Seems like every | time I hang around with my drug dealer I end up | losing money and getting an STD." Yep. | | You are conflating different issues. It was just a joke, about using iTunes. Like so much media software, it's more about selling than playing. | I was forced to use AOL mail | servers, after Verizon purchased AOL. When I need to use web mail, I am | bombarded with ads. AOL wants about five bucks a month to turn of the | ads. About a month before the AOL announcement, I entered into a two | year agreement with Verizon. All I am at liberty to say is that I am in | the middle of discussions at a corporate level. | Ick. You could have your own operation for that price. I have a website host that I pay $9/month. For that I get hosting and up to 100 email addresses in my own domain that I manage myself. |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 9:29 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Ron C" wrote | Oddly, I'm with nospam on the ads thing. Seems one of | the first things I did when I set up Win 10 was to turn off | all the tiles. Yes, you can sort of do that. And the Start Menu, too? You clean that up? And lock screen ads? It's all mild now. I've worked my way from CPM through *-DOS, and most variations of Windows .. and have (for the most part) only used the Start Menu to log-off/shut down or change users. ~ Seems I've evolved a non-MS envisioned work flow. ;-) ~ I have yet to see a lock screen ad .. though I've heard the rumors of their impending intrusion. ...Gigantic Snip of the rest... -- == Later... Ron C -- |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 10:14 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 11/24/2017 9:31 PM, Mayayana wrote: "PeterN" wrote | *** You're probably at more risk as an Apple fan because | you're used to a product that's designed to keep you | in their private AOL-style shopping venue. | | | Yeah! It seems every time I open iTunes on my Win10 machine, it tries to | take me to the store to buy something at the iTunes store. | *** Hard to sympathize with that. "Seems like every time I hang around with my drug dealer I end up losing money and getting an STD."*** Yep. You are conflating different issues. I was forced to use AOL mail servers, after Verizon purchased AOL. When I need to use web mail, I am bombarded with ads. AOL wants about five bucks a month to turn of the ads. About a month before the AOL announcement, I entered into a two year agreement with Verizon. All I am at liberty to say is that I am in the middle of discussions at a corporate level. Same here, but I never use web mail .. thus never see the ads. -- == Later... Ron C -- |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 10:52 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 22:14:12 -0500, Ron C wrote: On 11/24/2017 9:58 PM, Savageduck wrote: On Nov 24, 2017, Ron C wrote (in ): On 11/24/2017 8:14 PM, PeterN wrote: On 11/24/2017 7:52 PM, Ron C wrote: snip I haven't been following this thread, just dropped in to check on potentially interesting thread drift. Oddly, I'm with nospam on the ads thing. Seems one of the first things I did when I set up Win 10 was to turn off all the tiles. The big pain for me is that I have Win 10 on a machine that I use infrequently. Seems just about every time I use the machine it installs updates that take ages to install. It took 10+ minutes to boot this afternoon because it was updating/installing something; 10+ minutes with that sick greenish-yellow screen with the spinning dots. It's a rare occasion, that I agree with nospam. I agree with you too. My purpose for computing is to get things done. Those freak-en ads are a major distraction. I suspect there is a legal way of blocking them, If you really want to experience ad overload try an Amazon Fire. My old tablet died and I recently got an Amazon Fire to replace it. Seems all the built in apps are just an up-sell conduit to some Amazon product or service. Hell, I have wi-fi turned off and the start-up lock screen still shows (apparently pre-loaded) ads. I could go on... but enough on that for now... Interesting. I don’t have that sort of ad issue with my iPad Pro which I use to stream Amazon Prime, Netflix, and other streaming content via my home network. I am also an Amazon Prime subscriber with the various Amazon Prime apps installed, along with the iOS version of Kindle, and with those I have an ad free environment. I have some free weather apps where the adds are persistent, but that is about it. Had I been able to take the Fire (and/or some other tablet) for a prolonged "test drive" I probably would have made a different choice. ~~ Ah, live and learn... I have an Amazon Fire Stick plugged into the TV and use it to access Netflix. I've never seen an ad for anything in using it. Once a month I get an email from Amazon Fire TV telling me what's new this month. I don't consider that to be a problem. I'm quite pleased with the Amazon Fire Stick. Not a tablet .. totally different world. -- == Later... Ron C -- |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 9:46 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Nov 24, 2017, PeterN wrote (in article ): Snip Even worse, I want to try Aurora. I got a $10 dollar discount code through a camera group. I wanted to see if I could do better. Do a search Aurora HDR discount code. I stopped searching after the first few led me directly to the Macphun site, with a message that no code was needed. Yet Macphun honors the discount code. To my way of thinking these other sites are practicing unethical marketing. i am not sure, but I suspect that the only reason they do what they are doing, is they get a commission. The sites I am referring to include such as "retail me not," etc. If Macphun did not have a good reputation, that type of marketing practice would make me wary of buying. If anyone thinks I went too fr off topic, that's their problem. End of mini rant. It is always best to go directly to the developer site, questionable intermediates have been known to be problematic. Some previously trustworthy cheap/free app sources have become vectors for malware. That said, not all sites offering additional discounts are toxic, so one needs to be alert to bad playe4rs among the sincere offers. As for Aurora HDR, I think you will find it very suitable for some of your HDR work. It also does a good job on single exposure tone mapping. They have some interesting presets (some a bit over the top), a layered workflow with local adjustment brushes, and very flexible adjustments. With the local adjustment brush, you can apply a preset, or personal adjustments to a specifice area of the image. You also have the ability to create your own presets. ...and they have a good library of video tutorials. I agree completely, and have heard good things from others. Putting the issue of malware aside, I feel very strongly that the publisher is entitled to be paid. To the best of my knowledge, I have never used unlicensed software. There is nothing wrong with trying to get the best price, for legal software. I was shopping for the best discount codes that Aurora will honor. I also looked at Luminar, which I think it is a very good program. But, there is very little in it that interests me, that I don't already have. Right now, I am into playing with a using circular coordinates with luminosity masks. I bought Lumenzia, which speeds up making luminosity masks. Greg Benz, the developer gives great, and personalized support. Here is an example, which I am posting this only to show the concept. If anyone objects to the reduced resolution, or my copyright notice, look through it. https://www.dropbox.com/s/g6w96lsf1095334/20171005_6203-butterfly%20garden.jpg?dl=0 -- PeterN |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 9:58 PM, Savageduck wrote:
snip Interesting. I don’t have that sort of ad issue with my iPad Pro which I use to stream Amazon Prime, Netflix, and other streaming content via my home network. I heard that Netflix, is acquiring Yahoo. The combined company will be called Netanyahoo. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) -- PeterN |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 10:22 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"PeterN" wrote | | | | Yeah! It seems every time I open iTunes on my Win10 machine, it tries to | | take me to the store to buy something at the iTunes store. | | | | Hard to sympathize with that. "Seems like every | time I hang around with my drug dealer I end up | losing money and getting an STD." Yep. | | You are conflating different issues. It was just a joke, about using iTunes. Like so much media software, it's more about selling than playing. | I was forced to use AOL mail | servers, after Verizon purchased AOL. When I need to use web mail, I am | bombarded with ads. AOL wants about five bucks a month to turn of the | ads. About a month before the AOL announcement, I entered into a two | year agreement with Verizon. All I am at liberty to say is that I am in | the middle of discussions at a corporate level. | Ick. You could have your own operation for that price. I have a website host that I pay $9/month. For that I get hosting and up to 100 email addresses in my own domain that I manage myself. I thought about that. But I have switched over a lot of my email uses to live.com. I also have another email addy that I use only when the spammers want my email addy. It has over 5,000 unread emails. I clean it out once every six months, more or less. Also, as someone pointed out, there should be no expectation of privacy in email. When I have to send sensitive information, I use encrypted files. -- PeterN |
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Windows 10. Horrible!
On 11/24/2017 10:40 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 11/24/2017 10:14 PM, PeterN wrote: On 11/24/2017 9:31 PM, Mayayana wrote: "PeterN" wrote | *** You're probably at more risk as an Apple fan because | you're used to a product that's designed to keep you | in their private AOL-style shopping venue. | | | Yeah! It seems every time I open iTunes on my Win10 machine, it tries to | take me to the store to buy something at the iTunes store. | *** Hard to sympathize with that. "Seems like every time I hang around with my drug dealer I end up losing money and getting an STD."*** Yep. You are conflating different issues. I was forced to use AOL mail servers, after Verizon purchased AOL. When I need to use web mail, I am bombarded with ads. AOL wants about five bucks a month to turn of the ads. About a month before the AOL announcement, I entered into a two year agreement with Verizon. All I am at liberty to say is that I am in the middle of discussions at a corporate level. Same here, but I never use web mail .. thus never see the ads. There are times when I have no choice. -- PeterN |
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