What to carry by default.

On 08/29/2015 02:00 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 8/29/2015 12:03 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 08/29/2015 12:25 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-08-28 21:53:37 +0000, Ken Hart said:


I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

But then my camera bag is a Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, so there's plenty
of room for gear!

My first observation is, you are not physically carrying all of this
stuff at once are you.

I can even understand the reluctance to change lenses in the field,
hence the plethora of bodies.

My question is, WTF are you shooting that requires a range of 28mm to
1200mm, and in reality what do you physically carry at one time?


The answer to your question "WTF..." is "Anything I want!" Most of my
photos are some variation of landscape. I'm especially fond of water in
the photos.

As to "physically carry", that depends. If I can't carry a tripod, I
limit myself to about 200mm as a longest lens. The Davis & Sanford
tripod is heavy and clumsy to carry, but very sturdy. Usually I carry a
short, medium, and long lens, but the medium and long lenses may be one
zoom. So... 19mm and 55-135mm. Or 35mm and 85-300mm.

The 500mm and longer lenses only get carried to a "planned" location.


I use one of these for anyplace I will need a tripod, a long lens, and
patience. I neatly carries all, including a light folding chair and
water. I bought it for about fifty bucks from Costco. It makes life real
easy.

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Tomm...onder-Wheeler-

All-Teraine-Beach-Cart-NEW/270860846?gpid=18283950120&gpkwd=

&goog_pla=1&gclid=CKDf_qXuzscCFcsXHwoddboNUA


http://tinyurl.com/njeaj9j

Such a gadget would be handy in _many_ places, but the last place I had
the 1200mm (and the tripod, three camera bodies, and 2 short lenses) was
at the top of the Tuscarora Mountain in Juniata County, Pennsylvania.
The vantage point, a bald spot near the top at about 2000 feet, affords
a view of about ten miles of the valley below, the parallel Shade
mountain about 8 miles away, and glimpses of the next mountain range to
the northwest.
Granted, I didn't carry this gear the entire height of the mountain;
said bald point is about 300 yards from a pull-off on PA74 between Port
Royal and Ickesburg, but I think that the manufacturer's description of
"All Terrain" doesn't include that last 300 yards through the forest.

--
Ken Hart

On 8/29/2015 4:27 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 08/29/2015 02:00 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 8/29/2015 12:03 PM, Ken Hart wrote:
On 08/29/2015 12:25 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-08-28 21:53:37 +0000, Ken Hart said:


I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

But then my camera bag is a Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, so there's plenty
of room for gear!

My first observation is, you are not physically carrying all of this
stuff at once are you.

I can even understand the reluctance to change lenses in the field,
hence the plethora of bodies.

My question is, WTF are you shooting that requires a range of 28mm to
1200mm, and in reality what do you physically carry at one time?


The answer to your question "WTF..." is "Anything I want!" Most of my
photos are some variation of landscape. I'm especially fond of water in
the photos.

As to "physically carry", that depends. If I can't carry a tripod, I
limit myself to about 200mm as a longest lens. The Davis & Sanford
tripod is heavy and clumsy to carry, but very sturdy. Usually I carry a
short, medium, and long lens, but the medium and long lenses may be one
zoom. So... 19mm and 55-135mm. Or 35mm and 85-300mm.

The 500mm and longer lenses only get carried to a "planned" location.


I use one of these for anyplace I will need a tripod, a long lens, and
patience. I neatly carries all, including a light folding chair and
water. I bought it for about fifty bucks from Costco. It makes life real
easy.

http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Tomm...onder-Wheeler-

All-Teraine-Beach-Cart-NEW/270860846?gpid=18283950120&gpkwd=

&goog_pla=1&gclid=CKDf_qXuzscCFcsXHwoddboNUA


http://tinyurl.com/njeaj9j

Such a gadget would be handy in _many_ places, but the last place I had
the 1200mm (and the tripod, three camera bodies, and 2 short lenses) was
at the top of the Tuscarora Mountain in Juniata County, Pennsylvania.
The vantage point, a bald spot near the top at about 2000 feet, affords
a view of about ten miles of the valley below, the parallel Shade
mountain about 8 miles away, and glimpses of the next mountain range to
the northwest.
Granted, I didn't carry this gear the entire height of the mountain;
said bald point is about 300 yards from a pull-off on PA74 between Port
Royal and Ickesburg, but I think that the manufacturer's description of
"All Terrain" doesn't include that last 300 yards through the forest.


I have only used in in sand and mud. It works reasonably well in powdery
sand, and is a lot easier than carrying all that on my back.

--
PeterN

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 00:47:30 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:25:12 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-08-28 21:53:37 +0000, Ken Hart said:


I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

But then my camera bag is a Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, so there's plenty
of room for gear!

My first observation is, you are not physically carrying all of this
stuff at once are you.

I can even understand the reluctance to change lenses in the field,
hence the plethora of bodies.

My question is, WTF are you shooting that requires a range of 28mm to
1200mm, and in reality what do you physically carry at one time?

I can't answer for Ken, but some of us are not always that far from
our vehicles. I have a sling-type backpack that holds my camera with
a lens attached, a second lens (I usually pack my 18-55 plus a 55-300
in it) my flash unit, and the usual batch of accessories like spare
batteries, cards, white balance card, etc.

Also in the car is a wheeled cart with a milk crate like box and a
plywood top that I fashioned. That contains other lenses and a second
body. I use the cart at baseball games where I need to have a
portable seat and access to the rest of my kit.

Oh, and a large bathtowel and a second shirt are in the box. The
towels is both for sweat and something to sit on for low shots. The
shirt is to have a dry one. A 12:30 PM game in Florida means a soaked
shirt by half time.

A tripod and a monopod are also in the car. While I don't need them
for sports, I keep a large white and a large black piece of cloth in
the car that can be used as backgrounds for certain objects and a
collapsible reflector.

But, when I leave the car I take just the camera, on a Black Rapid
strap, with one of the two lenses. If in doubt, I'll switch to the
Tamron 18-270.

I rarely take the backpack with me. I'll do it tomorrow because it is
team photo day and a football game. I don't know where they'll have
the team photos...in the gym or on the bleachers. I may want the
flash and the ability to switch lenses. The backpack has a tripod
fitting, so that will be taken.

There is one thing that nobody has mentioned which I find very helpful
to have left behind: that is the 28lb (13kg) of amorphous tissue which
I have succeeded in losing in the last 20 months. I now know that
complaints about the effect of age on the ability to carry gear are
just as likely to arise from the burden of self inflicted ballast as
they are from the weight of the camera equipment. I still use a
wheeled trolley though. See http://tinyurl.com/opee4fh or
http://www.malahideseascouts.ie/wp-c...ng-trolley.jpg
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:22:47 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article 201508282125129258-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:

I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

No he didn't.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2015-08-30 00:15:08 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:22:47 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article 201508282125129258-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:

I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

No he didn't.

That has to be the most confusing set of attributes, considering that
none of those credited made the statement regarding Ken Hart's massive
burden.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:24:07 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-08-30 00:15:08 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:22:47 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article 201508282125129258-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:

I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

No he didn't.

That has to be the most confusing set of attributes, considering that
none of those credited made the statement regarding Ken Hart's massive
burden.

nospam seems to almost never pay attention to the meaning of what he
is actually posting.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:24:07 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-08-30 00:15:08 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:22:47 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article 201508282125129258-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:

I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

No he didn't.

That has to be the most confusing set of attributes, considering that
none of those credited made the statement regarding Ken Hart's massive
burden.

nospam seems to almost never pay attention to the meaning of what he
is actually posting.

*nothing* in the above was written by me.

what i wrote has been snipped, which was that he is a hoarder.

if you're going to bash, you should quote properly.

Tony Cooper:
Also in the car is a wheeled cart with a milk crate like [sic] box and a
plywood top that I fashioned. That contains other lenses and a second
body. I use the cart at baseball games where I need to have a
portable seat and access to the rest of my kit.

Oh, and a large bathtowel and a second shirt are in the box. The
towels is both for sweat and something to sit on for low shots. The
shirt is to have a dry one. A 12:30 PM game in Florida means a soaked
shirt by half time.

Davoud:
Ah, yes. I have encountered people in your unfortunate situation on the
streets of many cities. They have an amazing variety of items in their
swag (Aus-NZ sense), including cameras sometimes, though I would be
surprised if the cameras were in working condition.

Tony Cooper:
Interesting that there are baseball games in the streets of the cities
you've been in.

You're surprised at that? It's been common in city streets for hundreds
of years. And among indigenous Americans it is probably at least 1000
years old. It's called "stickball." I suppose when you were a kid you
could afford baseballs or softballs and bats.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

On 8/30/2015 12:57 PM, Davoud wrote:
Tony Cooper:
Also in the car is a wheeled cart with a milk crate like [sic] box and a
plywood top that I fashioned. That contains other lenses and a second
body. I use the cart at baseball games where I need to have a
portable seat and access to the rest of my kit.

Oh, and a large bathtowel and a second shirt are in the box. The
towels is both for sweat and something to sit on for low shots. The
shirt is to have a dry one. A 12:30 PM game in Florida means a soaked
shirt by half time.

Davoud:
Ah, yes. I have encountered people in your unfortunate situation on the
streets of many cities. They have an amazing variety of items in their
swag (Aus-NZ sense), including cameras sometimes, though I would be
surprised if the cameras were in working condition.

Tony Cooper:
Interesting that there are baseball games in the streets of the cities
you've been in.

You're surprised at that? It's been common in city streets for hundreds
of years. And among indigenous Americans it is probably at least 1000
years old. It's called "stickball." I suppose when you were a kid you
could afford baseballs or softballs and bats.


And when we didn't have sticks, or during high traffic times, we played
stoopball, and/or boxball.

--
PeterN

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:11:19 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:24:07 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2015-08-30 00:15:08 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:22:47 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article 201508282125129258-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, Savageduck
wrote:

I typically carry about a dozen (or more) cameras, all with either
28mm, 35mm, or 50mm lenses mounted. I will pack all three Canon
FL-mount zooms: 55-135mm, 100-200mm, 85-300mm. For prime lenses: a
couple 200mm, 500mm, 800mm, and 1200mm. The tripod is a Davis and
Sanford "jawbreaker" with a Majestic head.

No he didn't.

That has to be the most confusing set of attributes, considering that
none of those credited made the statement regarding Ken Hart's massive
burden.

nospam seems to almost never pay attention to the meaning of what he
is actually posting.

*nothing* in the above was written by me.

what i wrote has been snipped, which was that he is a hoarder.

if you're going to bash, you should quote properly.

Somewhere in much the same circumstances I read:

"nope.

you're blaming me about your ignorance regarding quote levels."

Hmm.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens