[SI] New Mandate: B&W

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:40 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:




On 12/4/08 4:28 AM, in article ,
"PaytonT" wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:05:55 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only black and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0


Methinks you should have kept it a "secret". No POI, ergo no interesting
composition.

If I was that company I'd even have a difficult time selecting that for a
monthly flier. It says nothing, conveys nothing, is nothing.

I don't think I've seen a more boring photo.

Sorry, dem's da fac's.

Oh wait, I take that back. On an outing to Yerkes Observatory (the largest
refracting telescope in the world, even today) when I was 7 years old and had
my
Brownie Box Camera, I took a photo similar to yours. (true) I still have a
print
from that photo to remind myself of what to never do again.

You should have kept that camera. I don't think too many Brownies had view
camera rising standards like the one that made this image. Probably be a
collector's item today. Too bad you were too dumb to let it go.

Just the facts, Jack...

Uh, for the sake of educating an idiot .... you are aware that view camera
perspective-correction benefits can also be duplicated 100% in the dark-room,
are you not?

Amazing. You wasted a view camera on a useless, boring, and meaningless scene
like that? How pathetic can one get. You must have run out of cats to photograph
or something and were trying to expand your photographic horizons -- sadly
missed finding all possible new horizons.

"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the
posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only black and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0

Ignore the trolls. I like the shot since I like photos of large industrial
objects and scenes. But that's just me.

PaytonT wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:40 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:


[ ... ]

You should have kept that camera. I don't think too many Brownies
had view camera rising standards like the one that made this
image. Probably be a collector's item today. Too bad you were too
dumb to let it go.

Just the facts, Jack...

Uh, for the sake of educating an idiot .... you are aware that view
camera perspective-correction benefits can also be duplicated 100%
in the dark-room, are you not?

Amazing. You wasted a view camera on a useless, boring, and
meaningless scene like that? How pathetic can one get. You must
have run out of cats to photograph or something and were trying to
expand your photographic horizons -- sadly missed finding all
possible new horizons.

While I should let you two shoo-ins in the arseholery sweepstakes
continue to shred each other, which I'm sure you're both enjoying way
out of proportion to the wit you can muster, I'll take a turn for my
own amusement. Seems to me it will be very like "educating an idiot",
but not so, uh, inappropriate as those last two paragraphs.

If you are old, you have the misfortune of living this far through
your life without developing any empathy, or even understanding, that
others can be "good" and "non-idiotic" without accepting your
definitions of those things; that they can be "interesting" and
"interested" without being interesting in your (apparently) narrow
perception; that you penalize yourself, perhaps justifiably, by
denying yourself the pleasure of appreciating myriad things that might
not fit the jumbled jigsaw of your views of life and the world.

If you are young, take a breath: in the war between you and everything
else, bet on anything else. In the not-very-exciting, blanc
mange-but-true words of Carlos Castañeda:

"We either make ourselves happy or miserable.
The amount of work is the same."

Cheers!

--
Frank ess

Would you mind keeping your little wars to your own group? Thank you. S
"Frank ess" wrote in message
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PaytonT wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:40 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:


[ ... ]

You should have kept that camera. I don't think too many Brownies
had view camera rising standards like the one that made this
image. Probably be a collector's item today. Too bad you were too
dumb to let it go.

Just the facts, Jack...

Uh, for the sake of educating an idiot .... you are aware that view
camera perspective-correction benefits can also be duplicated 100%
in the dark-room, are you not?

Amazing. You wasted a view camera on a useless, boring, and
meaningless scene like that? How pathetic can one get. You must
have run out of cats to photograph or something and were trying to
expand your photographic horizons -- sadly missed finding all
possible new horizons.

While I should let you two shoo-ins in the arseholery sweepstakes
continue to shred each other, which I'm sure you're both enjoying way
out of proportion to the wit you can muster, I'll take a turn for my
own amusement. Seems to me it will be very like "educating an idiot",
but not so, uh, inappropriate as those last two paragraphs.

If you are old, you have the misfortune of living this far through
your life without developing any empathy, or even understanding, that
others can be "good" and "non-idiotic" without accepting your
definitions of those things; that they can be "interesting" and
"interested" without being interesting in your (apparently) narrow
perception; that you penalize yourself, perhaps justifiably, by
denying yourself the pleasure of appreciating myriad things that might
not fit the jumbled jigsaw of your views of life and the world.

If you are young, take a breath: in the war between you and everything
else, bet on anything else. In the not-very-exciting, blanc
mange-but-true words of Carlos Castañeda:

"We either make ourselves happy or miserable.
The amount of work is the same."

Cheers!

--
Frank ess

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 10:29:09 -0800, "Frank ess" wrote:



PaytonT wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:40 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:


[ ... ]

You should have kept that camera. I don't think too many Brownies
had view camera rising standards like the one that made this
image. Probably be a collector's item today. Too bad you were too
dumb to let it go.

Just the facts, Jack...

Uh, for the sake of educating an idiot .... you are aware that view
camera perspective-correction benefits can also be duplicated 100%
in the dark-room, are you not?

Amazing. You wasted a view camera on a useless, boring, and
meaningless scene like that? How pathetic can one get. You must
have run out of cats to photograph or something and were trying to
expand your photographic horizons -- sadly missed finding all
possible new horizons.

While I should let you two shoo-ins in the arseholery sweepstakes
continue to shred each other, which I'm sure you're both enjoying way
out of proportion to the wit you can muster, I'll take a turn for my
own amusement. Seems to me it will be very like "educating an idiot",
but not so, uh, inappropriate as those last two paragraphs.

If you are old, you have the misfortune of living this far through
your life without developing any empathy, or even understanding, that
others can be "good" and "non-idiotic" without accepting your
definitions of those things; that they can be "interesting" and
"interested" without being interesting in your (apparently) narrow
perception; that you penalize yourself, perhaps justifiably, by
denying yourself the pleasure of appreciating myriad things that might
not fit the jumbled jigsaw of your views of life and the world.

If you are young, take a breath: in the war between you and everything
else, bet on anything else. In the not-very-exciting, blanc
mange-but-true words of Carlos Castañeda:

"We either make ourselves happy or miserable.
The amount of work is the same."

Cheers!

Feel better now? It still doesn't make that photograph any better nor compensate
a person for the time they have wasted in going to look at it. But nice try.

Every time it is suggested to go look at someone's photography on the net, and
then I foolishly do (hope springs eternal), I feel like I've just had the
displeasure of trying to get out of watching someone's slide-show of their
uninteresting tourist-tailored vacation.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:28:35 -0600, PaytonT
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:05:55 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only black and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0


Methinks you should have kept it a "secret". No POI, ergo no interesting
composition.

You miss the point. It's B&W (black and white) photograph of a B&W
(Burmeister and Wain) engine.

If I was that company I'd even have a difficult time selecting that for a
monthly flier. It says nothing, conveys nothing, is nothing.

I don't think I've seen a more boring photo.

Sorry, dem's da fac's.

Oh wait, I take that back. On an outing to Yerkes Observatory (the largest
refracting telescope in the world, even today) when I was 7 years old and had my
Brownie Box Camera, I took a photo similar to yours. (true) I still have a print
from that photo to remind myself of what to never do again.



Eric Stevens

"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:28:35 -0600, PaytonT
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:05:55 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the
posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only black
and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0


Methinks you should have kept it a "secret". No POI, ergo no interesting
composition.

You miss the point. It's B&W (black and white) photograph of a B&W
(Burmeister and Wain) engine.

And you just reminded me that I have several black and white shots of a
Babcock & Wilcox reactor vessel. I'll have to dig one out for this mandate.

And they didn't miss the point, they're just simple trolls. Best ignored.


If I was that company I'd even have a difficult time selecting that for a
monthly flier. It says nothing, conveys nothing, is nothing.

I don't think I've seen a more boring photo.

Sorry, dem's da fac's.

Oh wait, I take that back. On an outing to Yerkes Observatory (the largest
refracting telescope in the world, even today) when I was 7 years old and
had my
Brownie Box Camera, I took a photo similar to yours. (true) I still have a
print
from that photo to remind myself of what to never do again.



Eric Stevens

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:22:19 -0500, "bowser" wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the
posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only black and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0

Ignore the trolls. I like the shot since I like photos of large industrial
objects and scenes. But that's just me.

Well, this one should interest you (even though the engine photographs
are lousy).

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2006...ld-part-3.html



Eric Stevens

"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:22:19 -0500, "bowser" wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the
posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only black
and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0

Ignore the trolls. I like the shot since I like photos of large industrial
objects and scenes. But that's just me.

Well, this one should interest you (even though the engine photographs
are lousy).

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2006...ld-part-3.html

Holey crap! What pistons! Now that's a big engine. Nice link, thanks.

bowser wrote:

"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:22:19 -0500, "bowser" wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:01:25 -0500, BÔwser wrote:


"Eric Stevens" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:28:41 -0500, BÔwser wrote:

By popular demand, the new mandate is B&W. While I'm sure that the
posters
meant Black and White, I see no reason to restrict it to only
black and
white photos.

Here is a B&W photograph of a B&W engine on test. It seems to qualify
on two counts.

I'm not going to enter it as it's not my photograph.

Sounds nice. Where is it?

Damn!

Perhaps I was trying to keep it secret. :-)

Here it is
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2128/...ae71f4.jpg?v=0

Ignore the trolls. I like the shot since I like photos of large
industrial
objects and scenes. But that's just me.

Well, this one should interest you (even though the engine photographs
are lousy).

http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2006...ld-part-3.html


Holey crap! What pistons! Now that's a big engine. Nice link, thanks.

Here's a slightly larger image of what those muthas drive:
(there's also a link from the site Bowser cited.)

http://www.jtashipphoto.dk/jtashipphoto.dk%201/Emma%20Maersk/emma_maersk.htm

--
john mcwilliams