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Canon G6 or Digital Rebel or Nikon D70
I'm in the market for a new digital camera. In the past I had an
Olympus that I really liked until I dropped it and it broke. Then I got a Canon S200, mostly for its size not for it's super quality. I love the Canon, it's a nice "take anywhere" camera which has served me well especially on vacations. But for indoors it sucks. So now I'm thinking I'd like to have a really good quality camera that I can use at home or when I don't mind lugging something heavy around. Taking pictures of friends and family, weekend trips, and also of my artwork. One thing I really liked about my Olympus was it's F1.8 lens, which enabled me to take pictures in low-light conditions without using the flash. This was especially nice for indoors. My Canon S200 is practically useless indoors. So this is why I like the Canon G6, it has a F2.0 lens. Prices are around $514 mail order. Now I'm thinking for $200 more I can get the Canon EOS 300D Digital Rebel. It seems to be a better camera. One of the things I noticed in the reviews and sample photos is how much better the dSLR cameras are in low light. They can increase their ISO without the noise that cheaper point & shoot cameras have. That is one aspect I really like. However it seems Canon crippled the Digital Rebel which kind of bothers me, although I'm not sure I'd need the features like flash exposure compensation that are not present. For $200 more I can get the Nikon D70. From everything I've read this one seems to be a real winner. Some claim that one can take just as good photos with a cheaper point & shoot, while others claim that the D70 is so much better. One thing I notice is that a lot of the test photos on the review sites are done with ample lighting, but in reality a lot of the photos I take are in low light. The D70 seems to do really well in low light, but how much better than the Canon?? Also, the D70 is a whopping $430 more than the G6, which is almost twice the price! Now that's hard to justify!! Finally we're hoping for a new family member and that would give me a perfect subject for thousands of photos, which is why I want to make sure I get a really good camera. Thanks for any input! |
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Thanks for the tip on the firmware hack. Does it prevent upgrading the
firmware in the event that Canon puts out new upgrades? Or maybe the firmware is mature and Canon no longer upgrades it? Regarding the EOS f/1.8 50mm lens, I'd say $70 is a good deal. I was checking on something equivilant for Nikon and I found the Nikon Normal AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Autofocus Lens for $230 (B&H Photo). That's quite a big price difference. I found the Canon lens for $70 at B&H, and I reread the dpreview review site and they say the Canon 50mm f1.8 lens compares very well to the Nikon, which is suprising considering the Nikon costs 3 times the price. Can you explain the difference when the lens says Xmm - Ymm or just Xmm? I don't understand what that means, does it mean that there is no zoom? I also looked again at the ISO tests at dpreview.com and they're very interesting. the Canon EOS 300D images have such low noise, even at high ISO, whereas the other camera (not the G series, I forget) had a lot of noise, like all digital cameras I've owned). So I see how the dSLR is a big advantage here. Overall I thank you very much for your post. You've convinced me to take a more serious look at the Canon. Your information on the additional fast lens was something I had not considered, and the price difference makes the Nikon much more expensive than the Canon. And with the firmware, which was I was not aware of, I can get back some features Canon disabled. I'm now leaning towards the Canon EOS 300D! -Michael PS: To the person who told me to read the two sites, I had already read them both before making my post. But they don't answer all the questions. In fact they recommend the majority of cameras. What they cannot do is recommand a camera for a particular person. That requires input from fellow enthusiasts, which to me is what this newsgroup is all about. When I got my first digital camera almost 10 years ago, I helped many people get into the digital camera age (search google for "Sanyo VPC-G200" and you'll find my webpage is the first page returned). And now things move so fast I need help myself just to stay current! |
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wrote in message oups.com... Thanks for the tip on the firmware hack. Does it prevent upgrading the firmware in the event that Canon puts out new upgrades? Or maybe the firmware is mature and Canon no longer upgrades it? Regarding the EOS f/1.8 50mm lens, I'd say $70 is a good deal. I was checking on something equivilant for Nikon and I found the Nikon Normal AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Autofocus Lens for $230 (B&H Photo). That's quite a big price difference. I found the Canon lens for $70 at B&H, and I reread the dpreview review site and they say the Canon 50mm f1.8 lens compares very well to the Nikon, which is suprising considering the Nikon costs 3 times the price. Can you explain the difference when the lens says Xmm - Ymm or just Xmm? I don't understand what that means, does it mean that there is no zoom? The Nikon 50mm f: 1.8 costs $99 usd, 50mm f:1.4 costs $260 usd, the Canon 50mm f:1.8 is $75 usd and their 50mm f:1.4 is $300 usd. So compare the right lenses, not apples vs. oranges. |
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writes:
Thanks for the tip on the firmware hack. Does it prevent upgrading the firmware in the event that Canon puts out new upgrades? Or maybe the firmware is mature and Canon no longer upgrades it? This Wasia guy seems to be actively dveeloping the hacked firmware, so if something were to change in the stock firmware for whatever reason, there's reason to suspect he'd follow suit. Regarding the EOS f/1.8 50mm lens, I'd say $70 is a good deal. I was checking on something equivilant for Nikon and I found the Nikon Normal AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Autofocus Lens for $230 (B&H Photo). That's quite a big price difference. And also a one stop maximum aperture difference. Nikon has a 50mm f/1.8 lens for $100. Canon has a 50mm f/1.4 lens for $310. Can you explain the difference when the lens says Xmm - Ymm or just Xmm? I don't understand what that means, does it mean that there is no zoom? That's correct. Xmm is a fixed focal length lens. Xmm-Ymm would be a lens with a zoom ring. Have fun! It's hard to go wrong with Nikon or Canon, but it seems there's some money to be saved with the 300D. Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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I found out today about their rebate, valid until Jan 31. It's $100
off for the camera, or if I buy an expensive lens it doubles the rebate. Their lenses are around $300 min, so with the rebate that would be like $100 off = $200. Not a bad deal. The more I read about the Canon the more I'm impressed. I have until Jan 31 to make up my mind. To the other posters, I'm sorry I got the 1.4 50mm & 1.8 50mm lenses mixed up. Now I understand that both Nikon & Canon have both, and that 1.4 is so much more expensive. That makes sense as well. 1.4 sounds really nice, I bet with the high ISO it could almost take pictures in the dark! -Michael |
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The difference between the 50mm F/1.4 and 50 F/1.8 is plastic casing
vs. metal, and the 1.4 has a USM drive motor as opposed to the DC motor in the 1.8. I just bought the 28-135mm ISU and the 50mm F/1.4, both to take advantage of the GREAT REBATE canon is offering now. $300 off the Rebel and $45 off each of the lens. You can't be it! |
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The difference between the 50mm F/1.4 and 50 F/1.8 is plastic casing
vs. metal, and the 1.4 has a USM drive motor as opposed to the DC motor in the 1.8. I just bought the 28-135mm ISU and the 50mm F/1.4, both to take advantage of the GREAT REBATE canon is offering now. $300 off the Rebel and $45 off each of the lens. You can't be it! |
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