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Old December 9th 07, 02:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Stilgar[bbs.iscabbs.com]
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?

Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.

Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.

Note to Canon/Nikon fanboys: please don't try to talk me out of the
Pentax camera as my mind is made up on this body.

Thanks in advance,
GH
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Old December 9th 07, 04:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Paul Furman
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

Stilgar[bbs.iscabbs.com] wrote:
I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?

Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.


Then here's the lens you really want:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/394223-REG/Pentax_20290_Wide_Angle_SMCP_FA_31mm.html
-unfortunately $870 and even the Sigma is around $600
There is a AF Pentax SMC P-FA 35mm f/2 AL which seems available for
$300, not made any more.

Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.

Note to Canon/Nikon fanboys: please don't try to talk me out of the
Pentax camera as my mind is made up on this body.

Thanks in advance,
GH

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Old December 9th 07, 06:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Tony Polson
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

"Stilgar[bbs.iscabbs.com]" wrote:

I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?

Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.

Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.



The SMC Pentax DA 16-45mm f/4 ED AL would be an excellent choice. It
is a far superior lens to the 18-55mm with excellent sharpness and
better control of rectilinear distortion.

However, it lies outside your budget. Frankly, the chance of getting
a good quality new zoom lens for a mere $200 is small. The 16-45mm
costs $409.95 at B&H.

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Old December 9th 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
RichA
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

On Dec 9, 1:39 pm, Tony Polson wrote:
"Stilgar[bbs.iscabbs.com]" wrote:
I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?


Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.


Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.


The SMC Pentax DA 16-45mm f/4 ED AL would be an excellent choice. It
is a far superior lens to the 18-55mm with excellent sharpness and
better control of rectilinear distortion.


It should have good correction, it is slow as molasses. But then
there is an f2.8 for about $900.
For $400, you could get:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...2_8_EX_DC.html

Which would give you an extra stop, plus it has been well-reviewed by
sources that have tested it.


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Old December 10th 07, 12:58 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Wilba[_2_]
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

Stilgar wrote:

I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?

Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.

Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.


I'm going through a similar search right now. As tony said, the Pentax 16-45
is well regarded, but it's something like twice the standalone price of the
18-55.

Check out the Sigma 17-70 -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._DC_Macro.html.
F/2.8 would be handy for your indoor shots.

If you want an all-in-one lens, the Pentax 18-250 seems like a good choice -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._5_6_3_ED.html.
There is a Tamron equivalent (esentially the same lens) if you're not
attached to the Pentax brand -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...6_3_Di_II.html.

The 18-55 is pretty much given away as part of a kit, so it will cost you
several to many hundreds more to take any of these options. You can get kits
which include the Pentax 16-45, Sigma 17-70, or Sigma twin combinations
(e.g. 18-50 & 70-300), so you can save some money by looking for one of them
that fits. Personally, I'm only looking at "designed for digital" lenses
(Pentax DA, Sigma DC, Tamron Di).


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Old December 10th 07, 06:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Pete D
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?


"Wilba" wrote in message
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Stilgar wrote:

I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?

Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.

Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.


I'm going through a similar search right now. As tony said, the Pentax
16-45 is well regarded, but it's something like twice the standalone price
of the 18-55.

Check out the Sigma 17-70 -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._DC_Macro.html.
F/2.8 would be handy for your indoor shots.

If you want an all-in-one lens, the Pentax 18-250 seems like a good
choice -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._5_6_3_ED.html.
There is a Tamron equivalent (esentially the same lens) if you're not
attached to the Pentax brand -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...6_3_Di_II.html.

The 18-55 is pretty much given away as part of a kit, so it will cost you
several to many hundreds more to take any of these options. You can get
kits which include the Pentax 16-45, Sigma 17-70, or Sigma twin
combinations (e.g. 18-50 & 70-300), so you can save some money by looking
for one of them that fits. Personally, I'm only looking at "designed for
digital" lenses (Pentax DA, Sigma DC, Tamron Di).


Really considering the cost of the K100D the 18-55mm is a pretty good match,
a little slow but a reasonable performer from F8 up. I have both the 18-55mm
and the 16-45mm Pentax lenses and the 18-55 stays on the DS and the 16-45
stays on the K10D most of the time. Probably the other cheap choice would be
the Sigma 18-125mm, cheap and cheerful and a reasonable performer for the
price.

Cheers.

Pete


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Old December 13th 07, 10:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Charlie Self
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

On Dec 10, 1:14 am, "Pete D" wrote:
"Wilba" wrote in message

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Stilgar wrote:


I would like to get a Pentax k100d. I'm not completely sold on
getting the kit with the 18-55 lens however, and I was wondering if
anyone had information on that lens or an alternative?


Originally, I wanted to get the Pentax 50-200mm, because most of the
shots I'd like to take are wildlife shots, and my biggest complaint
about my old point and shoot is the lack of a decent zoom. That being
said, we have a baby on the way in January, and I've since realized
that most of the initial shots I'll probably be taking are indoor
Christmas shots followed by baby pictures.


Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.


I'm going through a similar search right now. As tony said, the Pentax
16-45 is well regarded, but it's something like twice the standalone price
of the 18-55.


Check out the Sigma 17-70 -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...669109_17_70mm....
F/2.8 would be handy for your indoor shots.


If you want an all-in-one lens, the Pentax 18-250 seems like a good
choice -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._21697_SMCP_DA....
There is a Tamron equivalent (esentially the same lens) if you're not
attached to the Pentax brand -
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._AF018P700_AF_....


The 18-55 is pretty much given away as part of a kit, so it will cost you
several to many hundreds more to take any of these options. You can get
kits which include the Pentax 16-45, Sigma 17-70, or Sigma twin
combinations (e.g. 18-50 & 70-300), so you can save some money by looking
for one of them that fits. Personally, I'm only looking at "designed for
digital" lenses (Pentax DA, Sigma DC, Tamron Di).


Really considering the cost of the K100D the 18-55mm is a pretty good match,
a little slow but a reasonable performer from F8 up. I have both the 18-55mm
and the 16-45mm Pentax lenses and the 18-55 stays on the DS and the 16-45
stays on the K10D most of the time. Probably the other cheap choice would be
the Sigma 18-125mm, cheap and cheerful and a reasonable performer for the
price.


I've got the 18-125 on my K10D, and like it a great deal, but it's an
orphan, no longer made.

For the new baby, the kit lens is great. For wildlife, 200mm (300 on
the K100D sensor) is not really long enough. I use a Sigma 70-300 and
still come up short, but, then, I have little time for getting out
after those shots and less capability with bad knees that keep me from
walking much. Under NO circumstances satisfy the 300mm need with the
Pentax 100-300. The best copies are mediocre. I sold mine almost
immediately after getting it. I also sold my 16-45 and halfway regret
that sale many days.

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Old December 22nd 07, 09:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
D.M. Procida
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Default Pentax k100d body, but which lens?

Stilgar[bbs.iscabbs.com] wrote:

Several people have told me just to buy the kit with the 18-55mm lens,
but I always thought that the lenses in the kits aren't the best
quality you can get. So I was wondering if I should get the 18-55, or
if there's a better alternative that's less than $200? I'm open to
non-Pentax lenses.


I've bought some great used Pentax lenses on eBay - manual focus, but
excellent quality and they work beautifully.

Daniele
 




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