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Slik Master Deluxe Tripod
I know, Slik doesn't have the best reputation today, but I must say, of all
the equipment I was given by my father, all of which he bought in Japan in 1964-68, that tripod gets the most use, and a well built piece of kit it is. Mostly aluminum, with 3 sectioned legs that need to be screwed down instead of the locking levers you see today. Geared center column and strut supports. It's light, rock solid, tall enough that I need to stand on tip toes to see through the viewfinder when the column is fully extended, and built well enough that it's withstood two photographers and nearly 40 years worth of use. Compared to my Bogen 3021BPro legs and 3029 head, I'd say the Slik was the better built of the two. The Slik head has one drawback, it won't tilt side to side, only front and back, necessitating leg length changes to level your camera. But the screw down legs are better than those clamps, which have to be set pretty tight, or else you can't trust them, so that they're stiff and difficult to use. I've had the slik in rivers, on beaches, wherever I go, and if I get sand or grit in the mechanisms, I just work them back and forth gently until the grit comes out. Takes a few minutes, and hasn't failed me in over a decade of use. I had my bogen on the beach once last summer, and it still has sand in it. The Bogen's nice because you can get low to the ground--that's really why I wanted it. But it turns out that you have to remove the center column and use some plastic gadget from the end of it to mount the head. The plastic thing is gripped by the part through which the column slid. It doesn't really seem to belong there, and the mount is never really secure, prone to swinging left and right on you if you exert any pressure accordingly. God forbid you use a heavy camera, like my RB67 or Shen-Hao (whatever it's call sign) on it. Don't get me wrong, the Bogen is a workable tripod, but emphasis on the "work" in workable, 'cause I always feel like I'm tricking it out to get it to do its job. The Bogen is much taller than the slick, though, but also not as compact. A few nights ago, I got to thinking about what a great tripod the slik's been for me, and I did a quick Google search for slik master deluxe tripod, and the first link returned was for a woman selling one here in Lansing, MI, for $10. Now I've got two! :-p -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com ps. I can't vouch for modern Slik equipment, but if you get a chance to pick up one of the mid to late 60's models, at a reasonable price, by all means, do. |
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Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212
which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. As to the see-saw head. Back when that pod was made it was fairly common, and had a lot to do with the growth in popularity of ball heads. As I recall Pan-Tilts were fairly expensive options on most of the pods in the stores. A lot of the brands from that era no longer exist and I don't remember the names now. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Matt Clara" wrote in message .. . I know, Slik doesn't have the best reputation today, but I must say, of all the equipment I was given by my father, all of which he bought in Japan in 1964-68, that tripod gets the most use, and a well built piece of kit it is. Mostly aluminum, with 3 sectioned legs that need to be screwed down instead of the locking levers you see today. Geared center column and strut supports. It's light, rock solid, tall enough that I need to stand on tip toes to see through the viewfinder when the column is fully extended, and built well enough that it's withstood two photographers and nearly 40 years worth of use. Compared to my Bogen 3021BPro legs and 3029 head, I'd say the Slik was the better built of the two. The Slik head has one drawback, it won't tilt side to side, only front and back, necessitating leg length changes to level your camera. But the screw down legs are better than those clamps, which have to be set pretty tight, or else you can't trust them, so that they're stiff and difficult to use. I've had the slik in rivers, on beaches, wherever I go, and if I get sand or grit in the mechanisms, I just work them back and forth gently until the grit comes out. Takes a few minutes, and hasn't failed me in over a decade of use. I had my bogen on the beach once last summer, and it still has sand in it. The Bogen's nice because you can get low to the ground--that's really why I wanted it. But it turns out that you have to remove the center column and use some plastic gadget from the end of it to mount the head. The plastic thing is gripped by the part through which the column slid. It doesn't really seem to belong there, and the mount is never really secure, prone to swinging left and right on you if you exert any pressure accordingly. God forbid you use a heavy camera, like my RB67 or Shen-Hao (whatever it's call sign) on it. Don't get me wrong, the Bogen is a workable tripod, but emphasis on the "work" in workable, 'cause I always feel like I'm tricking it out to get it to do its job. The Bogen is much taller than the slick, though, but also not as compact. A few nights ago, I got to thinking about what a great tripod the slik's been for me, and I did a quick Google search for slik master deluxe tripod, and the first link returned was for a woman selling one here in Lansing, MI, for $10. Now I've got two! :-p -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com ps. I can't vouch for modern Slik equipment, but if you get a chance to pick up one of the mid to late 60's models, at a reasonable price, by all means, do. |
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Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212
which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. As to the see-saw head. Back when that pod was made it was fairly common, and had a lot to do with the growth in popularity of ball heads. As I recall Pan-Tilts were fairly expensive options on most of the pods in the stores. A lot of the brands from that era no longer exist and I don't remember the names now. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Matt Clara" wrote in message .. . I know, Slik doesn't have the best reputation today, but I must say, of all the equipment I was given by my father, all of which he bought in Japan in 1964-68, that tripod gets the most use, and a well built piece of kit it is. Mostly aluminum, with 3 sectioned legs that need to be screwed down instead of the locking levers you see today. Geared center column and strut supports. It's light, rock solid, tall enough that I need to stand on tip toes to see through the viewfinder when the column is fully extended, and built well enough that it's withstood two photographers and nearly 40 years worth of use. Compared to my Bogen 3021BPro legs and 3029 head, I'd say the Slik was the better built of the two. The Slik head has one drawback, it won't tilt side to side, only front and back, necessitating leg length changes to level your camera. But the screw down legs are better than those clamps, which have to be set pretty tight, or else you can't trust them, so that they're stiff and difficult to use. I've had the slik in rivers, on beaches, wherever I go, and if I get sand or grit in the mechanisms, I just work them back and forth gently until the grit comes out. Takes a few minutes, and hasn't failed me in over a decade of use. I had my bogen on the beach once last summer, and it still has sand in it. The Bogen's nice because you can get low to the ground--that's really why I wanted it. But it turns out that you have to remove the center column and use some plastic gadget from the end of it to mount the head. The plastic thing is gripped by the part through which the column slid. It doesn't really seem to belong there, and the mount is never really secure, prone to swinging left and right on you if you exert any pressure accordingly. God forbid you use a heavy camera, like my RB67 or Shen-Hao (whatever it's call sign) on it. Don't get me wrong, the Bogen is a workable tripod, but emphasis on the "work" in workable, 'cause I always feel like I'm tricking it out to get it to do its job. The Bogen is much taller than the slick, though, but also not as compact. A few nights ago, I got to thinking about what a great tripod the slik's been for me, and I did a quick Google search for slik master deluxe tripod, and the first link returned was for a woman selling one here in Lansing, MI, for $10. Now I've got two! :-p -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com ps. I can't vouch for modern Slik equipment, but if you get a chance to pick up one of the mid to late 60's models, at a reasonable price, by all means, do. |
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Tony wrote: Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212 which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. As to the see-saw head. Back when that pod was made it was fairly common, and had a lot to do with the growth in popularity of ball heads. As I recall Pan-Tilts were fairly expensive options on most of the pods in the stores. A lot of the brands from that era no longer exist and I don't remember the names now. I too had a Slik U212 "Deluxe". It was given to me, and I never really cared for it. On the other hand, the Slik 300DX was, and still is, a good tripod. It's as stable as some more expensive models. What you give up is, ironically, slickness. Instead of instant action lever locks, or indestructible collett locks, you get screw locks. Simple, rugged, bulletproof. Add a decent cast alloy pan/tilt head with QR and an under $100 price, and it's easy to recommend to someone on a budget. It served me well until I moved up. Lisa |
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Tony wrote: Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212 which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. As to the see-saw head. Back when that pod was made it was fairly common, and had a lot to do with the growth in popularity of ball heads. As I recall Pan-Tilts were fairly expensive options on most of the pods in the stores. A lot of the brands from that era no longer exist and I don't remember the names now. I too had a Slik U212 "Deluxe". It was given to me, and I never really cared for it. On the other hand, the Slik 300DX was, and still is, a good tripod. It's as stable as some more expensive models. What you give up is, ironically, slickness. Instead of instant action lever locks, or indestructible collett locks, you get screw locks. Simple, rugged, bulletproof. Add a decent cast alloy pan/tilt head with QR and an under $100 price, and it's easy to recommend to someone on a budget. It served me well until I moved up. Lisa |
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"Lisa Horton" wrote in message
... Tony wrote: Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212 which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. As to the see-saw head. Back when that pod was made it was fairly common, and had a lot to do with the growth in popularity of ball heads. As I recall Pan-Tilts were fairly expensive options on most of the pods in the stores. A lot of the brands from that era no longer exist and I don't remember the names now. I too had a Slik U212 "Deluxe". It was given to me, and I never really cared for it. On the other hand, the Slik 300DX was, and still is, a good tripod. It's as stable as some more expensive models. What you give up is, ironically, slickness. Instead of instant action lever locks, or indestructible collett locks, you get screw locks. Simple, rugged, bulletproof. Add a decent cast alloy pan/tilt head with QR and an under $100 price, and it's easy to recommend to someone on a budget. It served me well until I moved up. Lisa That's the thing about the old Slik my dad gave me. Instead of moving up, I'm moving back. It's held my Shen Hao tilted at a light fixture accurately for several days now (I'm ashamed to admit--I'm not so good at cleaning up, much to my wife's consternation!). After my experience with the Bogen (not that it's been a bad experience, or that it's even over!), I wouldn't try to improve on the Slik with another Bogen, and would probably seek to spend at least $500 to improve upon what I've got. And there's no point in that. -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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"Lisa Horton" wrote in message
... Tony wrote: Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212 which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. As to the see-saw head. Back when that pod was made it was fairly common, and had a lot to do with the growth in popularity of ball heads. As I recall Pan-Tilts were fairly expensive options on most of the pods in the stores. A lot of the brands from that era no longer exist and I don't remember the names now. I too had a Slik U212 "Deluxe". It was given to me, and I never really cared for it. On the other hand, the Slik 300DX was, and still is, a good tripod. It's as stable as some more expensive models. What you give up is, ironically, slickness. Instead of instant action lever locks, or indestructible collett locks, you get screw locks. Simple, rugged, bulletproof. Add a decent cast alloy pan/tilt head with QR and an under $100 price, and it's easy to recommend to someone on a budget. It served me well until I moved up. Lisa That's the thing about the old Slik my dad gave me. Instead of moving up, I'm moving back. It's held my Shen Hao tilted at a light fixture accurately for several days now (I'm ashamed to admit--I'm not so good at cleaning up, much to my wife's consternation!). After my experience with the Bogen (not that it's been a bad experience, or that it's even over!), I wouldn't try to improve on the Slik with another Bogen, and would probably seek to spend at least $500 to improve upon what I've got. And there's no point in that. -- Regards, Matt Clara www.mattclara.com |
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Tony wrote:
Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212 which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. The Benbo is nice but it's quite a hassle to carry around, since it's not only weighty but also BIG! Also: despite its flexibility, there are still movements it just can't make, because legs are in the way. Ton |
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I'm aware of that - But you should see the monster I DO carry (not far) It
is a 3221 leg set a 4047 (I think - it is the heaviest pan-tilt in the Bogen line) head, and a Side-Arm attached to that with a large (hex) quick release. I can get this beast up to about 7.5 feet tall or can use it to hold a camera lens directly to the glass of a window etc (no I'm not a peeping Tom - see the section "Window Shopping" on my site) but it is not fun to lug about. Usually I go out with an assistant when I use this combo, as I have to counterweight the whole thing with my Bag-O-Bricks; 45 pounds of red clay in an old canvas camera bag. If I am going to use the pod for a tall shot I need my two-step ladder too. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Ton Maas" wrote in message ... Tony wrote: Actually didn't Lisa use a modern Slik that was pretty good? I had a U212 which was junque of the lowest order but I remember her saying it was not representative of the entire line. I've been pretty happy with my 3001 legs for quite some time now so I haven't really looked at other pods recently, but I'm still curious about the ultra-manuverable Uni-Loc and Benbo type. The Benbo is nice but it's quite a hassle to carry around, since it's not only weighty but also BIG! Also: despite its flexibility, there are still movements it just can't make, because legs are in the way. Ton |
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