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  #11  
Old October 11th 10, 06:43 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
me[_5_]
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:41:36 -0400, rwalker
wrote:

Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all
spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be
like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone.


Nothing special, just the holiday morning dog walk on the James River.

http://edwardgruf.com/2010-10-11_james_am/index.html

  #12  
Old October 11th 10, 09:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:43:39 -0400, me wrote:

On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:41:36 -0400, rwalker
wrote:

Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all
spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be
like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone.


Nothing special, just the holiday morning dog walk on the James River.

http://edwardgruf.com/2010-10-11_james_am/index.html



Those are some nice shots. I like the one of the ultralight plane.
  #13  
Old October 11th 10, 11:02 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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?Not much here these days to engage one actually interested in dslr
photography ... trolls, egoists, dumbasses ...
"rwalker" wrote in message
...
Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all
spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be
like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone.


  #14  
Old October 12th 10, 12:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
rwalker
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:02:54 -0400, "Charles"
wrote:

?Not much here these days to engage one actually interested in dslr
photography ... trolls, egoists, dumbasses ...
"rwalker" wrote in message
.. .
Has Usenet completely died? Only 7 posts here today and they were all
spam. For the last three or four days, every Usenet group seems to be
like this. Maybe I've kill filed everyone.



There are a lot of those things, it is sadly true.
  #15  
Old October 12th 10, 02:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:24:23 +0100, "michael adams"
wrote:


"Michael" wrote in message
news:2010101020443874364-adunc79617@mypacksnet...

Basically saying, Usenet is dead, it's time is over, and
everything it does can now be done better elsewhere on the
internet.
--
Michael


Better ?

In terms of usability, IME most web forums are about on a par with
Google Groups and chocolate teapots.

The point about Usenet is that all newsreaders follow similar
conventions about displaying threads and messages, and in respect
to quoting etc. Once the user has mastered those for any particular
Newsreader there's nothing more to learn. With web forums they
all seem to follow different conventions. And a majority of users
on many forums seem totally unable to quote, but simply make comments
which are totally devoid of context.

With Usenet it's possible to scan 20 different newsgroups covering
loads of different areas in the space of a couple of minutes, and decide
whether or not there are any threads which seem worth reading.

I doubt that would be possible with web forums.

For Usenet all that's needed is plain text - posters can link to
URL's and pictures if they choose. It's not a case of "doing it better".
In this case at least, no other features are actually necessary.


michael adams

...



Does this mean I have to get a color monitor and one of those Googley
-- Explorer, browser things? Nothing but a bunch of Yahoo's out
there anyway.

If I wanted my Face in a Book I'd get one printed!

Next thing will be having to stop using Kodachrome in my Contax!

What's the photo world coming to?
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Old October 12th 10, 08:25 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On 10/12/10 PDT 6:47 AM, Pete Romfh wrote:
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:24:23 +0100, "michael adams"



For Usenet all that's needed is plain text - posters can link to
URL's and pictures if they choose. It's not a case of "doing it better".
In this case at least, no other features are actually necessary.


Does this mean I have to get a color monitor and one of those Googley
-- Explorer, browser things? Nothing but a bunch of Yahoo's out
there anyway.

If I wanted my Face in a Book I'd get one printed!

Next thing will be having to stop using Kodachrome in my Contax!

What's the photo world coming to?


Who knows?! But if you go on Safari, you don't have to mess with a
Googley Explorer...

--
john mcwilliams

"Um, his vocabulary, like, uh, really, ah....... sucked."
  #17  
Old October 13th 10, 10:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"michael adams" wrote in message
...
Basically saying, Usenet is dead, it's time is over, and
everything it does can now be done better elsewhere on the
internet.
--
Michael


Better ?

In terms of usability, IME most web forums are about on a par with
Google Groups and chocolate teapots.

The point about Usenet is that all newsreaders follow similar
conventions about displaying threads and messages, and in respect
to quoting etc. Once the user has mastered those for any particular
Newsreader there's nothing more to learn. With web forums they
all seem to follow different conventions. And a majority of users
on many forums seem totally unable to quote, but simply make comments
which are totally devoid of context.

With Usenet it's possible to scan 20 different newsgroups covering
loads of different areas in the space of a couple of minutes, and decide
whether or not there are any threads which seem worth reading.

I doubt that would be possible with web forums.

For Usenet all that's needed is plain text - posters can link to
URL's and pictures if they choose. It's not a case of "doing it better".
In this case at least, no other features are actually necessary.


michael adams

...




Agreed. Otherwise we wouldn't keep coming back here. :-)




  #18  
Old October 13th 10, 11:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
I think anyone who fails to be enthused by
the application of newly developed technologies to photography is just
jaded, or not genuinely interested in the subject.



Yup, got my personality profile down to a tee. Errr...



You explained your personality in detail in your previous post.

I merely commented on it.




Touché


  #19  
Old October 13th 10, 02:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Michael wrote:
On 2010-10-10 18:41:36 -0400, rwalker said:


The current issue of MacLife has a review of the newest version of
UNISON, which is a usenet newsreader for the mac. While it gives the
software a good review, it asks, and not too subtly, "what's the
point?" Basically saying, Usenet is dead, it's time is over, and
everything it does can now be done better elsewhere on the internet.


"The point is: For people who understand what (News/)Usenet is, there
*is* no alternative. *That* will keep it alive." (Frank Slootweg)

Show me one other medium where
- I can have dynamic scoring of my own choosing,
- I can use arbitrary rules to score,
- I can use my own editor,
- everything can be run remotely over a slow (e.g. cellular phone
with bad reception) ssh tunnel without usability problems,
- one can read and write completely offline (e.g. in a plane,
outside cellular phone range, .... without resorting to sat
phones) with only very modest preparation done *once*,
- the necessary storage space and transmission space is
(uncompressed) less than 4000 bytes per message even for this
group with it's gratitudious quoting,
- even a light-weight toy computer or a low end computer from
1990 (when a 386 with 20 MHz and a 40 Megabyte harddisk was
the height of computer power for the home user) has vastly more
than enough power to handle all the necessary computation needs,
- a Braille terminal and a keyboard is all you need to participate
if you are blind (and no need to handle complex window
decorations etc.)

Most forums are already challenged to provide proper threading.

-Wolfgang
  #20  
Old October 13th 10, 03:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:44:11 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
wrote:


Most forums are already challenged to provide proper threading.

-Wolfgang


I'm with you. If I just want to read discussions about issues I'm
interested in, I love Usenet. I don't need the bells and whistles, ads
and slowness of a web site which tries to emulate Usenet. I also like
the slightly controlled anarchy of Usenet.
 




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