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Old May 16th 17, 04:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Peter Jason
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Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?
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Old May 16th 17, 04:53 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On May 15, 2017, Peter Jason wrote
(in ):

Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?


There are too many factors psycological and environmental, for both the
shooter and/or the subject to be able to provide a single standard answer.

You say the subject is ugly, but who has made that determination, you the
shooter, or the subject?

You say you want to make the subject behave in a certain way by looking in a
certain direction, discreetly?
That tells me you are trying to capture a candid image without the
subject’s approval.

Is this a person you know, and can relate to, or is this a question general
and you want to capture a shot of a stranger?

Is this meant to be a candid shot, or is the subject being posed?

Does the subject know you are trying to capture their image?

Is the subject truly ugly, or does he/she just have a poor self image?

Each scenario requires a different technique.
If you know the subject, just ask,, even if you don’t know the
subject, just ask, and see where that leads. Otherwise you might have to be
somewhat sneaky.

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Regards,
Savageduck

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Old May 17th 17, 04:00 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Peter Jason
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Default Photographing ugly people.

On Mon, 15 May 2017 20:53:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On May 15, 2017, Peter Jason wrote
(in ):

Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?


There are too many factors psycological and environmental, for both the
shooter and/or the subject to be able to provide a single standard answer.

You say the subject is ugly, but who has made that determination, you the
shooter, or the subject?

You say you want to make the subject behave in a certain way by looking in a
certain direction, discreetly?
That tells me you are trying to capture a candid image without the
subject’s approval.

Is this a person you know, and can relate to, or is this a question general
and you want to capture a shot of a stranger?

Is this meant to be a candid shot, or is the subject being posed?

Does the subject know you are trying to capture their image?

Is the subject truly ugly, or does he/she just have a poor self image?

Each scenario requires a different technique.
If you know the subject, just ask,, even if you don’t know the
subject, just ask, and see where that leads. Otherwise you might have to be
somewhat sneaky.


Some are cross-eyed. How does one handle this sort of thing? They're
looking in every direction at once!
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Old May 17th 17, 04:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Photographing ugly people.

In article , Peter Jason
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Some are cross-eyed. How does one handle this sort of thing? They're
looking in every direction at once!


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Old May 17th 17, 05:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Photographing ugly people.

On 2017-05-17 03:00:37 +0000, Peter Jason said:

On Mon, 15 May 2017 20:53:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On May 15, 2017, Peter Jason wrote
(in ):

Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?


There are too many factors psycological and environmental, for both the
shooter and/or the subject to be able to provide a single standard answer.

You say the subject is ugly, but who has made that determination, you the
shooter, or the subject?

You say you want to make the subject behave in a certain way by looking in a
certain direction, discreetly?
That tells me you are trying to capture a candid image without the
subject’s approval.

Is this a person you know, and can relate to, or is this a question general
and you want to capture a shot of a stranger?

Is this meant to be a candid shot, or is the subject being posed?

Does the subject know you are trying to capture their image?

Is the subject truly ugly, or does he/she just have a poor self image?

Each scenario requires a different technique.
If you know the subject, just ask,, even if you don’t know the
subject, just ask, and see where that leads. Otherwise you might have to be
somewhat sneaky.


Some are cross-eyed. How does one handle this sort of thing? They're
looking in every direction at once!


Cross-eyed has nothing to do with ugly. The best way to go about
getting that portrait to look for a favorable profile or semi-profile.
There will be one side which is better, and you might be able to
convince the subject that you are trying to make a complimentary
protrain, not one which emphasizes a physical problem which they are
probably sensitive of.
That is unless you are actually trying to document strabismus.
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Regards,

Savageduck

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Old May 17th 17, 06:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Photographing ugly people.

On May 16, 2017, Savageduck wrote
(in article2017051621083324831-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom):

On 2017-05-17 03:00:37 +0000, Peter said:

On Mon, 15 May 2017 20:53:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On May 15, 2017, Peter Jason wrote
(in ):

Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?

There are too many factors psycological and environmental, for both the
shooter and/or the subject to be able to provide a single standard answer.

You say the subject is ugly, but who has made that determination, you the
shooter, or the subject?

You say you want to make the subject behave in a certain way by looking in
a
certain direction, discreetly?
That tells me you are trying to capture a candid image without the
subject’s approval.

Is this a person you know, and can relate to, or is this a question general
and you want to capture a shot of a stranger?

Is this meant to be a candid shot, or is the subject being posed?

Does the subject know you are trying to capture their image?

Is the subject truly ugly, or does he/she just have a poor self image?

Each scenario requires a different technique.
If you know the subject, just ask,, even if you don’t know the
subject, just ask, and see where that leads. Otherwise you might have to be
somewhat sneaky.


Some are cross-eyed. How does one handle this sort of thing? They're
looking in every direction at once!


Cross-eyed has nothing to do with ugly. The best way to go about
getting that portrait is to look for a favorable profile, or semi-profile.
There will be one side which is better, and you might be able to
convince the subject that you are trying to make a complimentary
protrain, not one which emphasizes a physical problem which they are
probably sensitive of.


....er, portrait, not “protrain".

That is unless you are actually trying to document strabismus.


--

Regards,
Savageduck

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Old May 17th 17, 03:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PAS[_2_]
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Default Photographing ugly people.

On 5/17/2017 12:08 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-05-17 03:00:37 +0000, Peter Jason said:

On Mon, 15 May 2017 20:53:32 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On May 15, 2017, Peter Jason wrote
(in ):

Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?

There are too many factors psycological and environmental, for both the
shooter and/or the subject to be able to provide a single standard
answer.

You say the subject is ugly, but who has made that determination,
you the
shooter, or the subject?

You say you want to make the subject behave in a certain way by
looking in a
certain direction, discreetly?
That tells me you are trying to capture a candid image without the
subject’s approval.

Is this a person you know, and can relate to, or is this a question
general
and you want to capture a shot of a stranger?

Is this meant to be a candid shot, or is the subject being posed?

Does the subject know you are trying to capture their image?

Is the subject truly ugly, or does he/she just have a poor self image?

Each scenario requires a different technique.
If you know the subject, just ask,, even if you don’t know the
subject, just ask, and see where that leads. Otherwise you might
have to be
somewhat sneaky.


Some are cross-eyed. How does one handle this sort of thing? They're
looking in every direction at once!


Cross-eyed has nothing to do with ugly. The best way to go about
getting that portrait to look for a favorable profile or semi-profile.
There will be one side which is better, and you might be able to
convince the subject that you are trying to make a complimentary
protrain, not one which emphasizes a physical problem which they are
probably sensitive of.
That is unless you are actually trying to document strabismus.


This little girl is cross-eyed but her cuteness level is off the charts
(I'm referring to the one with the hat on)

http://www.pete-the-greek.com/Pets/Bella/i-KxrBp4V/A


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Old May 16th 17, 06:06 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Davoud
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Default Photographing ugly people.

Peter Jason:
Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?


What kind of person are you!? I have never seen an ugly person.

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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Old May 16th 17, 10:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Davoud Wrote in message:
Peter Jason:
Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?


What kind of person are you!? I have never seen an ugly person.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

Blind as a bat you are then! :-))
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Old May 16th 17, 05:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Photographing ugly people.

In article , android
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Davoud Wrote in message:
Peter Jason:
Is there any standard way to convince an ugly person to look in a
particular direction? Discreetly?


What kind of person are you!? I have never seen an ugly person.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

Blind as a bat you are then! :-))


My mailbox is flooded with mail that basically exclaims that that can't
be sooo... And you're so true to the truth that we are falling in to the
deepest of wells in existential crises!

The answer to that is that SuperPoster has X-Ray vision and thus sees
stuff! ;-))
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