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Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers



 
 
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Old November 29th 20, 10:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alfred Molon[_4_]
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers

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$7500.00. Admittedly a minor price in the Canon-Nikon long lens landscape, but a huge amount for people who often buy into m4/3rds because generally, it's been less expensive than larger sensor systems. This is like the 300mm f/2.8 Olympus launched when the 4/3rds system came about. Why would they do this? No one knows, but in addition to the 150-400mm lens, they are offering a 100-400mm lens that's around $1500.00 and looks very competent for the price.

Admittedly, Olympus's 300mm f/4.0 is a benchmark lens from a sharpness standpoint, it's optical quality is otherworldly. It's about $3000.00. So likely this new zoom is similar.

$7500 lens:

https://www.dpreview.com/news/596175...cially-debuted

$1500 lens:

https://www.dpreview.com/videos/7491...-6-3-is-review


But exactly a lens like this makes most sense for m4/3. Long
tele lenses for wildlife is the area where the m4/3 system has
the biggest advantages compared to full frame systems: twice the
range, more depth of field even with a relatively large
aperture, portability (size/weight) where it matters - the
wildlife pro who spends hours trekking in the jungle cannot
carry heavy gear with him/herself.

And with the 2x teleconverter you get the same field of view as
a 2000mm full frame lens. In case you need that range, it's
available.
For instance one time I was in Malaysian Borneo, in the Danum
valley. We suddenly spotted an orang utan on a tree, hundreds of
metres away from us. With a 300mm APS-C lens (450mm FF
equivalent) the orang utan only covered a small part of the
frame. Had I had this Olympus lens and the teleconverter, I
could have taken a much better picture (the animal covering
about 50% of the frame).

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Old November 30th 20, 05:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers

In article , incubus9536612
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There is no increase in range. There is a smaller image area; one can get the
same "range" by cropping.

This myth of "extra reach" has gone on for far too long.


But you have to heavily crop with a FF sensor, while with the
m4/3 camera the complete sensor is used for the image capture.
So - if you use the full sensor also in the FF case - m4/3
offers a doubling of range.
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Old November 30th 20, 05:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

There is no increase in range. There is a smaller image area; one can get
the same "range" by cropping.

This myth of "extra reach" has gone on for far too long.


But you have to heavily crop with a FF sensor, while with the
m4/3 camera the complete sensor is used for the image capture.


all cameras use 'the complete sensor'.

So - if you use the full sensor also in the FF case - m4/3
offers a doubling of range.


no it doesn't.
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Old November 30th 20, 06:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers

In article 265dc8ce-bac4-4692-a725-
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Not saying the lens doesn't have merits, just that it's not going to sell to more than a handful of people in the m4/3rds camp whereas Canon, Nikon (maybe Sony) will sell a lens like this to
their considerably large pro segment.


Well, it seems that this lens is selling very well, so well that
Olympus can't meet the demand:

https://petapixel.com/2020/11/30/sol...-has-outpaced-
stock-of-the-olympus-150-40mm-f-4-5-pro/

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Old December 1st 20, 03:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% ofm4/3rds buyers

On 11/30/20 7:45 PM, RichA wrote:
On Monday, 30 November 2020 at 13:30:27 UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article 265dc8ce-bac4-4692-a725-
, says...
Not saying the lens doesn't have merits, just that it's not going to sell to more than a handful of people in the m4/3rds camp whereas Canon, Nikon (maybe Sony) will sell a lens like this to
their considerably large pro segment.

Well, it seems that this lens is selling very well, so well that
Olympus can't meet the demand:

https://petapixel.com/2020/11/30/sol...-has-outpaced-
stock-of-the-olympus-150-40mm-f-4-5-pro/
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Petapixel is a whore site, willing to lap-up any story without any kind of criticality. It's quite possible they are "out of stock" if they produced 100 lenses in the first run for the whole planet, or something like that. But I've seen this kind of claim before and it's generally nonsense.


The article includes this quote from Olympus: "the delivery date varies
depending on the build-to-order manufacturing situation..." If the lens
is "build-to-order" then technically, it will always be sold-out, in a
pedantic manner of speaking.

(No comment regarding "whore site". I've wasted time on Petapizel
articles in the past. Usually the best info is gathered by following the
links that go elsewhere.)

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Ken Hart

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Old December 1st 20, 05:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alfred Molon[_4_]
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers

In article , incubus9536612
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On 2020-11-30, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , incubus9536612
@gmail.com says...
There is no increase in range. There is a smaller image area; one can get the
same "range" by cropping.

This myth of "extra reach" has gone on for far too long.


But you have to heavily crop with a FF sensor, while with the
m4/3 camera the complete sensor is used for the image capture.
So - if you use the full sensor also in the FF case - m4/3
offers a doubling of range.


Not really. If you use a high resolution camera with good glass, you have the
same "range" as well as a wider area and more control over depth of field.


Not yet. Even the 61MP Sony only has 15MP if you crop it to m4/3
size. And most FF cameras top out at 45-48 MP, giving you 11-12
MP if cropped.
Regarding DOF, at those extreme tele ranges the more DOF you
have, the better.
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Old December 1st 20, 07:40 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Olympus launches pro lens beyond the means of 99.999999% of m4/3rds buyers

In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

There is no increase in range. There is a smaller image area; one can
get the same "range" by cropping.

This myth of "extra reach" has gone on for far too long.

But you have to heavily crop with a FF sensor, while with the
m4/3 camera the complete sensor is used for the image capture.
So - if you use the full sensor also in the FF case - m4/3
offers a doubling of range.


Not really. If you use a high resolution camera with good glass, you have the
same "range" as well as a wider area and more control over depth of field.


Not yet. Even the 61MP Sony only has 15MP if you crop it to m4/3
size. And most FF cameras top out at 45-48 MP, giving you 11-12
MP if cropped.


there's no reason to crop and it voids and comparison.

Regarding DOF, at those extreme tele ranges the more DOF you
have, the better.


not necessarily.

sometimes shallow dof is desirable.
 




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