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Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
ian lincoln wrote:
wrote in message Not a chance -- he'd rather stay home and bitch about the lousy care, then have mommy make one call so he can jump to the head of the line ahead of those less fortunate or less well-connected. Mama's boy does just fine where he is. Too bad someone else had to get stiffed so he could have his comfort. And then consider it his "right" by virtue of his wealth. Self-obsessed pansy. I sense the green eyed monster at work. Don't expect me to believe for a second that you wouldn't have done the same in a heart beat should the opportunity arise. What a nice thing to only notice "kashe" in echoes from the kill-file... |
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Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
ian lincoln wrote:
"William Graham" wrote in message ... "David Littlewood" wrote in message ... In article , William Graham writes "ian lincoln" wrote in message .uk... "William Graham" wrote in message news:wdidnas0Ab_16MjenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast .com... of course the license plates are another 250$ per year. And so on... Well, I left California just as soon as possible after I retired, and I didn't go to Quebec....:^) - I went to Oregon, where we don't have any sales taxes, and the vehicle registration fees were $15 a year, regardless of what you drove. Since then, however, they have arbitrarily raised the DMV fees to about $28 a year, Ha try £161 a year. Well, at least that's "fixed", regardless of what you drive. In California, it varies with the price of the automobile.....IOW, it's a property tax. So, if you collect Hasselblads, you pay no property tax, but if you collect automobiles, they stick it to you every year. This has nothing to do with wear and tear on the roads, since a new Ferrari puts a lot less wear on them, and has a lot less pollution than a 20 year old clunker. The unfairness of this seems only apparent to us conservatives......... It also seems to me unfair in that a single person is not going to put more wear on the roads whether he has one car or 20. David Now you are going to get me off on my liability insurance rant....That's where I thrash the insurance companies for charging for a separate liability insurance policy on each car, even though those cars are parked while you drive only one at a time. Haven't got a wife, girfriend, kids of driving age? Then let their personal driver policy cover them. Calling it an auto policy is a misnomer, it doesn't cover the vehicle, it covers the driver while they're driving whichever car they borrow. Auto insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on Americans, with mandated coverage a gift to the insurance lobby. -- jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' |
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Liability Insurance - was Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:55:02 -0500, Jer wrote:
Then let their personal driver policy cover them. Calling it an auto policy is a misnomer, it doesn't cover the vehicle, it covers the driver while they're driving whichever car they borrow. Auto insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on Americans, with mandated coverage a gift to the insurance lobby. I've often thought the same thing - my wife and I have seven vehicles between us, and I'm charged liability premiums for all of them all the time, even though we can physically only have two of them on the road at any given moment. Having more vehicles doesn't mean that I drive more miles in a given year - it just means that I have more choices when I go out to the garage in the morning. So why am I paying more money in liability premiums than a household that only has one vehicle per person? -- Scott Gardner "Any event, once it has occurred, can be made to appear inevitable by a competent historian". - Lee Simonson |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:20:52 -0500, Jer wrote:
Not a chance -- he'd rather stay home and bitch about the lousy care, then have mommy make one call so he can jump to the head of the line ahead of those less fortunate or less well-connected. Mama's boy does just fine where he is. Too bad someone else had to get stiffed so he could have his comfort. And then consider it his "right" by virtue of his wealth. Self-obsessed pansy. What's wrong with one using one's resources to maximize one's opportunities for improved health, comfort, or even survival? Is financial wealth somehow expected to include a some measure of social guilt? Being financially able to afford a better car, house or school is acceptable, but being financially able to afford better health care isn't? It's not a matter of wealth - if he had paid for the surgery out-of-pocket in order to be treated immediately, I don't think anyone could reasonably begrudge him the fact that he had the financial means to do so. But what he did was use family connections to "back-door" the system and jump to the head of the line, while still receiving the treatment for free. It's the same as if he had a friend on the police force, and used his influence to arrange for additional police patrols in his neighborhood at no cost. If he wants increased presence in his neighborhood, he should pay a private security firm for the service. Likewise, if he wants to pay for a private doctor in order to reduce his wait time, that's fine, but instead, he's taken a system that's supposed to provide equal care for all, and subverted it for his own convenience/comfort without paying for the privilege. -- Scott Gardner "If the pilot screws up, the pilot dies. If Air Traffic Control screws up, the pilot dies." |
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Liability Insurance - was Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
"Scott Gardner" wrote in message ... On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:55:02 -0500, Jer wrote: Then let their personal driver policy cover them. Calling it an auto policy is a misnomer, it doesn't cover the vehicle, it covers the driver while they're driving whichever car they borrow. Auto insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on Americans, with mandated coverage a gift to the insurance lobby. I've often thought the same thing - my wife and I have seven vehicles between us, and I'm charged liability premiums for all of them all the time, even though we can physically only have two of them on the road at any given moment. Having more vehicles doesn't mean that I drive more miles in a given year - it just means that I have more choices when I go out to the garage in the morning. So why am I paying more money in liability premiums than a household that only has one vehicle per person? perhaps you have 5 vehicles too many? |
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Liability Insurance - was Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:07:56 GMT, "ian lincoln"
wrote: "Scott Gardner" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:55:02 -0500, Jer wrote: Then let their personal driver policy cover them. Calling it an auto policy is a misnomer, it doesn't cover the vehicle, it covers the driver while they're driving whichever car they borrow. Auto insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on Americans, with mandated coverage a gift to the insurance lobby. I've often thought the same thing - my wife and I have seven vehicles between us, and I'm charged liability premiums for all of them all the time, even though we can physically only have two of them on the road at any given moment. Having more vehicles doesn't mean that I drive more miles in a given year - it just means that I have more choices when I go out to the garage in the morning. So why am I paying more money in liability premiums than a household that only has one vehicle per person? perhaps you have 5 vehicles too many? Maybe so, but it doesn't change the fact that the legal implementation of liability insurance for motor vehicles is asinine, at best. I like having options when it comes to my vehicles. If the weather's nice and I don't have to carry much, I can take the motorcycle and get 45+ MPG. The daily-driver Honda has A/C, decent luggage capacity and still gets 38 MPG. The big honkin' Dodge pickup truck isn't very comfortable to drive and only gets 12 MPG, but it's hard to beat for making runs to the landfill or picking up building supplies/furniture. I *could* try to find one vehicle to do everything passably well, but it wouldn't excel at *anything*, and I'd probably be one of those people driving a gas-guzzling SUV 50 miles to and from work each day with no passengers and no cargo, complaining about the price of gas. -- Scott Gardner "Sense is not cognition but sensation." (Douglas Robinson) |
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:55:02 -0500, Jer wrote:
Haven't got a wife, girfriend, kids of driving age? Then let their personal driver policy cover them. Calling it an auto policy is a misnomer, it doesn't cover the vehicle, it covers the driver while they're driving whichever car they borrow. Auto insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on Americans, with mandated coverage a gift to the insurance lobby. Usually, people with that opinion change it the first time they are hit by a driver with no insurance, especially if they don't carry the optional uninsured/underinsured driver insurance. I do understand your angst. However, since legislators seem incapable of writing laws that seriously punish uninsured drivers, the mandatory insurance laws seem reasonable. BTW, here in AZ., there is alaw that says a vehicle involved in a crash with no insurance can, and should be, impounded. The law was in effect for over 5 years before such an impoundment was actually made. Or so I read in the local paper. -- Bill Funk Replace "g" with "a" funktionality.blogspot.com |
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Bill Funk wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 07:55:02 -0500, Jer wrote: Haven't got a wife, girfriend, kids of driving age? Then let their personal driver policy cover them. Calling it an auto policy is a misnomer, it doesn't cover the vehicle, it covers the driver while they're driving whichever car they borrow. Auto insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on Americans, with mandated coverage a gift to the insurance lobby. Usually, people with that opinion change it the first time they are hit by a driver with no insurance, especially if they don't carry the optional uninsured/underinsured driver insurance. I do understand your angst. However, since legislators seem incapable of writing laws that seriously punish uninsured drivers, the mandatory insurance laws seem reasonable. My personal angst over this issue didn't really get a good start until mandated coverage began. The insurance lobby spent millions wining and dining our state representatives, despite their lack of having a dog in the hunt. I communicated my personal opinion (sans the millions to go with it) to my own representatives, some to no avail, but not all. My idea? Since the state is requiring it, let the state purchase block no-fault policies (minimum coverage limits), each for an entire county based on driver census, and recover the premium cost with an exise tax levied at the retail/commercial pump (they already do this for road taxes). Every vehicle with fuel in the tank is covered - no such thing as an uninsured driver. Of course, the insurance lobby wants to sell policies at premium individual rates, not bulk rates. Any driver could purchase a separate rider for increased coverage limits if/when preferred. But no, our state legislators, pockets bulging with lobby dollars, made mandated coverage into a gift to the insurance industry that we pay more for every time our policies are renewed. Talk about letting the fox rule the hen house. BTW, here in AZ., there is alaw that says a vehicle involved in a crash with no insurance can, and should be, impounded. The law was in effect for over 5 years before such an impoundment was actually made. Or so I read in the local paper. In Mexico, all vehicles involved in a crash are impounded immediately. Owners (not drivers) retrieve their vehicles after financial responsibility is proven. I've heard in some areas of the U.S., if a driver is stopped for any reason, and can't show valid insurance coverage, the vehicle is impounded immediately, even if the driver doesn't receive a traffic citation. Back to my point above, if the vehicle was under it's own power, the vehicle is covered by an insurance policy. -- jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' |
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Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
Scott Gardner wrote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 08:20:52 -0500, Jer wrote: Not a chance -- he'd rather stay home and bitch about the lousy care, then have mommy make one call so he can jump to the head of the line ahead of those less fortunate or less well-connected. Mama's boy does just fine where he is. Too bad someone else had to get stiffed so he could have his comfort. And then consider it his "right" by virtue of his wealth. Self-obsessed pansy. What's wrong with one using one's resources to maximize one's opportunities for improved health, comfort, or even survival? Is financial wealth somehow expected to include a some measure of social guilt? Being financially able to afford a better car, house or school is acceptable, but being financially able to afford better health care isn't? It's not a matter of wealth - if he had paid for the surgery out-of-pocket in order to be treated immediately, I don't think anyone could reasonably begrudge him the fact that he had the financial means to do so. But what he did was use family connections to "back-door" the system and jump to the head of the line, while still receiving the treatment for free. It's the same as if he had a friend on the police force, and used his influence to arrange for additional police patrols in his neighborhood at no cost. If he wants increased presence in his neighborhood, he should pay a private security firm for the service. Likewise, if he wants to pay for a private doctor in order to reduce his wait time, that's fine, but instead, he's taken a system that's supposed to provide equal care for all, and subverted it for his own convenience/comfort without paying for the privilege. I understand all that. Mr. Kashe's comment... "Mama's boy does just fine where he is. Too bad someone else had to get stiffed so he could have his comfort. And then consider it his "right" by virtue of his wealth. Self-obsessed pansy" implied Ian's wealth bought privilege of moving up the line. From Ian's comments, I didn't get that impression at all, I was simply trying to draw a distinction between having wealth, and having something given to you (and stiffing someone else) simply because of well-connected friends. There's a difference, IMO. Socialized health care *is* expected to be equal for everybody. The reality of such is often very different. -- jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' |
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