Sony's newest useless gimmick...

Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:

"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."

Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...

Toby

On 5 Oct 2007 02:42:02 -0500, "Toby" wrote:

Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:

"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."

Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...

Toby

Wouldn't call it a useless gimmick, probably a very
good selling point, how does it detect the motion
of the smile break?

"Toby" wrote in message
...
Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:

"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."

Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...

I bet it wouldn't work on the joker from batman!!

I'll get my coat.................

On Oct 5, 4:22 pm, "Steven" wrote:
"Toby" wrote in message

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Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:

"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."

Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...

I bet it wouldn't work on the joker from batman!!

I'll get my coat.................

I have a background in artificial intelligence, though not image
detection.

If you can have face detection, then I think smile detection wouldn't
be too difficult. For a "toothy smile", detection of greater or lesser
amounts of teeth exposure would do. Otherwise face detection would
normally involve identification of the mouth, and extending that to a
smile shape sounds feasible.

I'd wildly speculate that such a system would work best on standard
faces and expressions. And that it might be fun working out what kinds
of grimaces can fool the system and posting the results on the net.

I couldn't possibly comment on how useful it is.

Toby wrote:
Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:

"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."

Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...

Toby



Depends if it works as advertised, red eye reduction doesn't seem to,
this may or may not. But why the sarcastic comment, it probably won't do
any harm and if you really don't like it, don't buy it. I never use
movie mode, if they sold the same camera a little cheaper without it I
would buy it. They don't and that's ok too.
Dave Cohen

Not to wonder how it covers a group of people in the image, since face
detection now seems to cover up to 10 individuals... and then there is
the question of ethnicity... How does it work with a group of Black
faces, or Inuit faces in northern Canada? It may work well with
Japanese faces and fail dismally with other faces.

FWIW

RsH



On 5 Oct 2007 02:42:02 -0500, "Toby" wrote:

Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:

"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."

Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...

Toby

wrote:
On Oct 5, 4:22 pm, "Steven" wrote:
"Toby" wrote in message

...

Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:
"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."
Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...
I bet it wouldn't work on the joker from batman!!

I'll get my coat.................

I have a background in artificial intelligence, though not image
detection.

If you can have face detection, then I think smile detection wouldn't
be too difficult. For a "toothy smile", detection of greater or lesser
amounts of teeth exposure would do. Otherwise face detection would
normally involve identification of the mouth, and extending that to a
smile shape sounds feasible.

I'd wildly speculate that such a system would work best on standard
faces and expressions. And that it might be fun working out what kinds
of grimaces can fool the system and posting the results on the net.

I couldn't possibly comment on how useful it is.


If it can tell the difference between a smile and a grimace it can do
better than a lot of human brains :-)
Bob

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:03:05 -0700, Bob Williams
wrote:

wrote:
On Oct 5, 4:22 pm, "Steven" wrote:
"Toby" wrote in message

...

Just reading today's Japan Times and noticed an ad for a new Sony P&S
Cyber-shot (DSC-T200). I quote:
"No more frozen grins. Our new 'Cyber-shot' not only recognizes faces, its
'Smile Shutter' can be set to trip automatically the instant your subject
breaks a smile."
Nikon and Canon better get on the ball: there's a must-have you won't find
on the 1DSMkIII or the D3...
I bet it wouldn't work on the joker from batman!!

I'll get my coat.................

I have a background in artificial intelligence, though not image
detection.

If you can have face detection, then I think smile detection wouldn't
be too difficult. For a "toothy smile", detection of greater or lesser
amounts of teeth exposure would do. Otherwise face detection would
normally involve identification of the mouth, and extending that to a
smile shape sounds feasible.

I'd wildly speculate that such a system would work best on standard
faces and expressions. And that it might be fun working out what kinds
of grimaces can fool the system and posting the results on the net.

I couldn't possibly comment on how useful it is.


If it can tell the difference between a smile and a grimace it can do
better than a lot of human brains :-)
Bob

Set my camera in the permanent snarl (f*** you Dick Cheney)mode.

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:14:38 -0400, Rita Ä Berkowitz ritaberk2O04 @aol.com
wrote:

Don't knock them. At least they have Live View to pacify the clueless.


People with "live view" will see what happens as they increase or decrease the
shutter speed before they even take their photo, leaving most every dslr owner
still clueless as to what their photo is really going to look like.

Clueless -- that be you.

In article , striker_lanks
wrote:

People with "live view" will see what happens as they increase or decrease the
shutter speed before they even take their photo, leaving most every dslr owner
still clueless as to what their photo is really going to look like.

You're right. Why should people be expected to know the relationship
between shutter speeds and f/stops? Have fun with your little TV set
viewfinders.