Film is obselete?

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David Starr wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:03:16 +0100, (Philip Homburg) wrote:


Modern film cameras don't work without batteries either.

I have a 2 year old film camera that does not use any batteries. No built in
light meter, no auto-anything, 100% mechanical.

What's so great about a camera without a built-in light meter?
I'd rather take a set of spare batteries then bring a spot meter.


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"David Starr" wrote in message
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I have a 2 year old film camera that does not use any batteries. No built
in
light meter, no auto-anything, 100% mechanical.



Unless you intend to shoot on a deserted island, or in sub-arctic climate,
how is a fully mechanical camera more valuable than one with a meter and an
electronic shutter?

No, but spelling is.

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Hi, I am thinking of getting a film SLR camera for Christmas this year
and I was kind of worried that maybe soon people won't be selling film
or developing film any more. Is there any chance of the price of film
skyrocketing and the price of developing film skyrocketing?

The guy at the store told me that the only difference now that digital
out is that there isn't as much variety different of film available
anymore. He told me that film costs the same.

Thanks,
Andrew

"Ric Trexell" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Hi, I am thinking of getting a film SLR camera for Christmas this year
and I was kind of worried that maybe soon people won't be selling film
or developing film any more.
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Many people are saying that digital is going to take over completely. At
present I have never seen a digital camera that can take a time exposure
of
three or four minutes and if one does exist, I have never heard of one
that
can do it without batteries. If you want to do this with film cameras,
old
Pentaxes, Nikons, Canons and Minoltas to name a few will do this easily.
Then if we are talking medium format, Hasselblads, Mamiyas, Rollei's and a
hundred others will do it. Now if you want to go to large format,
Wista's,
Horseman, Wisner and a bunch will do this. You might say who needs this?
Film photographers do. Digital photographers have no need for this. That
is why there will be film photography and if there isn't photography, has
taken a step backwards. Ric in Wisconsin.

That brings up a question: do digis figure reciprocity
failure, or just stop, or wait till the battery goes dead, or what?
Bob Hickey

Who needs a spot meter? I've got two meters which read the whole sean and
give me a reading, and no, they make their own power.


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"Philip Homburg" wrote in message What's so great
about a camera without a built-in light meter?
I'd rather take a set of spare batteries then bring a spot meter.

I now own only one camera with a battery in it and that's my Topcon Super D,
but guess what? I shot with my handheld light meters most of the time.
That's how this 30 year old meuc battery has lasted. The rest of my cameras
don't use batterys in any form and I've been able to use them not only in
the 100F day of the summer in the High mojave Desert, but during winter when
it's down to 15F I've used them just fine there too.



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universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.


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Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
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"jeremy" wrote in message
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Unless you intend to shoot on a deserted island, or in sub-arctic climate,
how is a fully mechanical camera more valuable than one with a meter and
an electronic shutter?

"Starlord" wrote in message
. ..
I now own only one camera with a battery in it and that's my Topcon Super
D, but guess what? I shot with my handheld light meters most of the time.
That's how this 30 year old meuc battery has lasted. The rest of my cameras
don't use batterys in any form and I've been able to use them not only in
the 100F day of the summer in the High mojave Desert, but during winter
when it's down to 15F I've used them just fine there too.



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There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across
the universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of
the Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may
yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond
the heavens.


The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html


"jeremy" wrote in message
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Unless you intend to shoot on a deserted island, or in sub-arctic
climate, how is a fully mechanical camera more valuable than one with a
meter and an electronic shutter?




A Topcon???

Hasn't anybody on this NG told you that film is dead yet? Someone tells
that to me at least once per day . . .

David Starr wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:03:16 +0100, (Philip Homburg) wrote:

Modern film cameras don't work without batteries either.

I have a 2 year old film camera that does not use any batteries. No built in
light meter, no auto-anything, 100% mechanical.

Certainly! But you still use batteries in other various accessories that
are virtually *required* to use said camera. A light meter, for instance...

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Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

"jeremy" wrote:
"David Starr" wrote:

I have a 2 year old film camera that does not use any batteries. No built
in
light meter, no auto-anything, 100% mechanical.


Unless you intend to shoot on a deserted island, or in sub-arctic climate,
how is a fully mechanical camera more valuable than one with a meter and an
electronic shutter?

If you want to expose 4x5 or 8x10 sheet film, it's not exactly
uncommon...

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Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Someone ever stand in front of me and say that to me, I'll just reach down,
pull up one of my 4 film cameras and fire a flash off in their face Without
taking a photo. My freeze has almost 100+ rolls of film in it just awaiting
to be shot. And have you ever looked at ebay? I've seen plenty of film being
auctioned off there.

I once remember reading a school book in Pampa, Tx that said man would NEVER
live to go fast enough to reach orbit. At that same time John Glen was in
Orbit, I told the teached their book was full of BS.

Yep, I now own the following:
Topcon Super D 1968

Exa 1954

Exacta model 1 1930

Voigtlander Bessamatic early 1960's




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There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the
universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.


The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html


"jeremy" wrote in message
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A Topcon???

Hasn't anybody on this NG told you that film is dead yet? Someone tells
that to me at least once per day . . .