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Leica's opinion of the D800



 
 
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Old September 27th 12, 11:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
PeterN
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Default Leica's opinion of the D800

On 9/26/2012 7:08 PM, RichA wrote:
On Sep 26, 1:54 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/622...012-interview-...


Well, he would say that, wouldn't he.

I'm not sure that 37.5 MP from a CCD sensor that is noisy at anything
over ISO 400 can ever be considered a huge step up over 36 MP from a
CMOS sensor that doesn't get noisy until ISO 1600.

There is also the issue of cost, because you could buy SIX D800 bodies
for the cost of the Leica S body. In fact you could buy a whole D800
outfit for the cost of the Leica S body.

The S series lenses are also extremely expensive. Alas, Leica is
aiming squarely at a market of wealthier people whereas Nikon is
aiming at photographers who tend not to be wealthy.


Different levels of wealth. A $20k camera with $7k lenses is aimed at
the wealthy. A $3000 camera that needs $2000 lenses to maximize its
capabilities isn't aimed at the middle class either.



Why not?
If a professional photographer needed it for his work, it would be
unusual if he earned megabucks.


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Old September 28th 12, 12:44 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Rob
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Default Leica's opinion of the D800

On 28/09/2012 8:56 AM, PeterN wrote:
On 9/26/2012 7:08 PM, RichA wrote:
On Sep 26, 1:54 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/622...012-interview-...


Well, he would say that, wouldn't he.

I'm not sure that 37.5 MP from a CCD sensor that is noisy at anything
over ISO 400 can ever be considered a huge step up over 36 MP from a
CMOS sensor that doesn't get noisy until ISO 1600.

There is also the issue of cost, because you could buy SIX D800 bodies
for the cost of the Leica S body. In fact you could buy a whole D800
outfit for the cost of the Leica S body.

The S series lenses are also extremely expensive. Alas, Leica is
aiming squarely at a market of wealthier people whereas Nikon is
aiming at photographers who tend not to be wealthy.


Different levels of wealth. A $20k camera with $7k lenses is aimed at
the wealthy. A $3000 camera that needs $2000 lenses to maximize its
capabilities isn't aimed at the middle class either.



Why not?
If a professional photographer needed it for his work, it would be
unusual if he earned megabucks.



Cheaper to buy a new strap and place sticky over the name
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Old September 28th 12, 01:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
PeterN
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Default Leica's opinion of the D800

On 9/27/2012 7:44 PM, Rob wrote:
On 28/09/2012 8:56 AM, PeterN wrote:
On 9/26/2012 7:08 PM, RichA wrote:
On Sep 26, 1:54 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/622...012-interview-...



Well, he would say that, wouldn't he.

I'm not sure that 37.5 MP from a CCD sensor that is noisy at anything
over ISO 400 can ever be considered a huge step up over 36 MP from a
CMOS sensor that doesn't get noisy until ISO 1600.

There is also the issue of cost, because you could buy SIX D800 bodies
for the cost of the Leica S body. In fact you could buy a whole D800
outfit for the cost of the Leica S body.

The S series lenses are also extremely expensive. Alas, Leica is
aiming squarely at a market of wealthier people whereas Nikon is
aiming at photographers who tend not to be wealthy.

Different levels of wealth. A $20k camera with $7k lenses is aimed at
the wealthy. A $3000 camera that needs $2000 lenses to maximize its
capabilities isn't aimed at the middle class either.



Why not?
If a professional photographer needed it for his work, it would be
unusual if he earned megabucks.



Cheaper to buy a new strap and place sticky over the name


I used to tape a strip of black electrical tape to cover the name on my
F3. In those days I tried my hand at street and didn't want to advertise
what I was using, or attract attention.

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Peter
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Old September 29th 12, 02:41 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Trevor[_2_]
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Default Leica's opinion of the D800


"PeterN" wrote in message
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Cheaper to buy a new strap and place sticky over the name


I used to tape a strip of black electrical tape to cover the name on my
F3. In those days I tried my hand at street and didn't want to advertise
what I was using, or attract attention.


I prefer to simply buy a new strap, but a D/SLR draws attention to itself
regardless of the strap or badge. That's why small 35mm rangefinders were
often prefered for street photography.
Even a Leica badge draws little attention since most people have never heard
of it.

Trevor.



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Old September 29th 12, 02:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
PeterN
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Default Leica's opinion of the D800

On 9/28/2012 9:41 PM, Trevor wrote:
"PeterN" wrote in message
...

Cheaper to buy a new strap and place sticky over the name


I used to tape a strip of black electrical tape to cover the name on my
F3. In those days I tried my hand at street and didn't want to advertise
what I was using, or attract attention.


I prefer to simply buy a new strap, but a D/SLR draws attention to itself
regardless of the strap or badge. That's why small 35mm rangefinders were
often prefered for street photography.
Even a Leica badge draws little attention since most people have never heard
of it.

Trevor.


You are right, but the F3 is an SLR, and there were many cheap SLRs on
the market that had a similar profile. Many of those had so little
value that they were not worth stealing.



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Peter
 




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