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  #21  
Old June 5th 18, 05:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alfred Molon[_4_]
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My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.

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  #22  
Old June 5th 18, 06:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote:

My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.


exactly the point.
  #23  
Old June 5th 18, 08:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
RJH
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On 04/06/2018 11:51, Mike Headon wrote:
On 04/06/2018 09:15, RJH wrote:
On 04/06/2018 04:02, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

My phone can take pictures? Son of a gun, so it can... Meanwhile, I
just spent a couple of hundred bucks to have my Nikon F100 body tuned
up.

you're the lone exception.


Another airline survey?

city bus.

i have posted an image of a professional NY photographer, who still
uses
film.

that makes two.

meanwhile, billions of digital photos are taken every day and uploaded
to various online services, nearly all of which with smartphones. more
than one *trillion* photos were taken in 2017.

B&H
Adorama

Both of the above sell a lot of film cameras.

nowhere near as many as they used to.

go ask them how their film sales have dramatically dropped off in
recent years.

I wonder why a lot of
professional photographers don't listen to you.

they don't need to. they already are on the digital bandwagon.

very, very few photographers are still shooting film and that number is
shrinking rapidly.

https://petapixel.com/2015/04/24/12-...-choose-to-sho

ot-film-over-digital/

what a joke. that is a completely bogus article. every single point is
*wrong*.

Snip good points well made

Film might have perceived advantages, even if they're difficult to
express:

* More care/time/thought might be taken over taking a shot because of
the cost/time consequences (developing, loading etc) and limitations
(fixed ISO, burst facilities etc);

* Much as the analogue/digital discussions in audio, the quality is in
the eye of the beholder - film is 'felt' to be better than digital.
Ironically, this is often to do with limitations of the medium. And no
amount of measurement or argument is going to shift that perception.


And nobody has mentioned - it's fun!


Yep! Forgot that. But one person's fun is another's something less than
fun I suppose.


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  #24  
Old June 6th 18, 12:53 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Davoud
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Alfred Molon:
My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.


And as time passes, it becomes less likely that they will ever see such
a camera, at least not in use. In a museum, perhaps.

The juvenile quibbling in this thread is stunning. What amuses me is
people who cannot do creative thinking, but take everything literally.
If one says "It's raining cats and dogs!" they will likely say "You're
wrong, as usual, idiot! Those are aggregated water molecules with
traces of various particulates, acids, dissolved gases, and other
compounds. Have you even sent them to be analyzed? I thought not."

The fact is, the film era is over in the same way the horse-and-buggy
era is over. You can still buy a horse and they still make buggies, but
the horse-and-buggy era is over.

If any of the plethora of idiots in this thread reads this, it will set
off a new round of quibbling. Fortunately, the majority of them are in
my kill-file so I am unlikely to see much of it.

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  #25  
Old June 6th 18, 12:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
nospam
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In article , Davoud
wrote:

Alfred Molon:
My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.


And as time passes, it becomes less likely that they will ever see such
a camera, at least not in use. In a museum, perhaps.

The juvenile quibbling in this thread is stunning. What amuses me is
people who cannot do creative thinking, but take everything literally.
If one says "It's raining cats and dogs!" they will likely say "You're
wrong, as usual, idiot! Those are aggregated water molecules with
traces of various particulates, acids, dissolved gases, and other
compounds. Have you even sent them to be analyzed? I thought not."

The fact is, the film era is over in the same way the horse-and-buggy
era is over. You can still buy a horse and they still make buggies, but
the horse-and-buggy era is over.


exactly correct.
  #26  
Old June 7th 18, 12:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
RJH
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On 06/06/2018 00:59, nospam wrote:
In article , Davoud
wrote:

Alfred Molon:
My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.


And as time passes, it becomes less likely that they will ever see such
a camera, at least not in use. In a museum, perhaps.

The juvenile quibbling in this thread is stunning. What amuses me is
people who cannot do creative thinking, but take everything literally.
If one says "It's raining cats and dogs!" they will likely say "You're
wrong, as usual, idiot! Those are aggregated water molecules with
traces of various particulates, acids, dissolved gases, and other
compounds. Have you even sent them to be analyzed? I thought not."

The fact is, the film era is over in the same way the horse-and-buggy
era is over. You can still buy a horse and they still make buggies, but
the horse-and-buggy era is over.


exactly correct.


Priceless.

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  #27  
Old June 7th 18, 01:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On Jun 7, 2018, RJH wrote
(in article ):

On 06/06/2018 00:59, nospam wrote:
In ,
wrote:

Alfred Molon:
My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.

And as time passes, it becomes less likely that they will ever see such
a camera, at least not in use. In a museum, perhaps.

The juvenile quibbling in this thread is stunning. What amuses me is
people who cannot do creative thinking, but take everything literally.
If one says "It's raining cats and dogs!" they will likely say "You're
wrong, as usual, idiot! Those are aggregated water molecules with
traces of various particulates, acids, dissolved gases, and other
compounds. Have you even sent them to be analyzed? I thought not."

The fact is, the film era is over in the same way the horse-and-buggy
era is over. You can still buy a horse and they still make buggies, but
the horse-and-buggy era is over.


exactly correct.


Priceless.


Especially since all the usual participants in this NG are allegedly residing
in Davoud’s kill-file.

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Savageduck

  #28  
Old June 7th 18, 05:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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On 6/4/2018 9:13 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

According to at least one person here, automation does a better job than
any human. It should be noted that this same individual, also argues
that automated cars are safer than human driven cars: But also argues
that when necessary elements of care automation are implemented, humans
can do it better. I take his undocumented opinions as being worth what
we pay him for them.

that's a gross misrepresentation of what i've said.


Not even worth answering.


thereby admitting that's exactly what you did.

the fact that you resort to lying about it says a lot.


Your asinine statement was that there are one or two who shoot film.
That is the only issue. Your statement stating that is not true.


only an idiot would think that was to be taken literally.


To paraphrase a statement sometimes attributed to Einstein or Feynman:
"that all physical theories, their mathematical expressions apart ought
to lend themselves to so simple a description 'that even a child could
understand them.'


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PeterN
  #29  
Old June 7th 18, 06:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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Default End Of An Era:

On 6/5/2018 12:57 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
My kids don't even know what film is. They have never seen a film
camera.



My kids didn't know what a egg cream was until they were in their teens.

--
PeterN
  #30  
Old June 7th 18, 06:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_7_]
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Default End Of An Era:

On 6/5/2018 3:44 PM, RJH wrote:
On 04/06/2018 11:51, Mike Headon wrote:
On 04/06/2018 09:15, RJH wrote:
On 04/06/2018 04:02, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:

My phone can take pictures? Son of a gun, so it can... Meanwhile, I
just spent a couple of hundred bucks to have my Nikon F100 body
tuned
up.

you're the lone exception.


Another airline survey?

city bus.

i have posted an image of a professional NY photographer, who still
uses
film.

that makes two.

meanwhile, billions of digital photos are taken every day and uploaded
to various online services, nearly all of which with smartphones. more
than one *trillion* photos were taken in 2017.

B&H
Adorama

Both of the above sell a lot of film cameras.

nowhere near as many as they used to.

go ask them how their film sales have dramatically dropped off in
recent years.

I wonder why a lot of
professional photographers don't listen to you.

they don't need to. they already are on the digital bandwagon.

very, very few photographers are still shooting film and that number is
shrinking rapidly.

https://petapixel.com/2015/04/24/12-...-choose-to-sho

ot-film-over-digital/

what a joke. that is a completely bogus article. every single point is
*wrong*.

Snip good points well made

Film might have perceived advantages, even if they're difficult to
express:

* More care/time/thought might be taken over taking a shot because of
the cost/time consequences (developing, loading etc) and limitations
(fixed ISO, burst facilities etc);

* Much as the analogue/digital discussions in audio, the quality is
in the eye of the beholder - film is 'felt' to be better than
digital. Ironically, this is often to do with limitations of the
medium. And no amount of measurement or argument is going to shift
that perception.


And nobody has mentioned - it's fun!


Yep! Forgot that. But one person's fun is another's something less than
fun I suppose.



Yep! I have a photo project going called "Derrieres" I am certain that
when I finish it, there will be those who will not think it's funny.


--
PeterN
 




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