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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 08:36:52 -0700, "Frank ess"
wrote: http://www.creativepro.com/story/rev...l?cprose=daily "Full disclosu I am a confessed Canon shooter. As such, I find the Nikon interface annoying." From the review, it seems you get higher ISO noise than one of the 8 meg DSLRs like the Canon 30D, and entry-level Nikon D50 but you get the extra resolution of the 10 megapixels and a host of more advanced features (he called them "pro" but I had some of them on my prosumer) than either of the other two cameras. -Rich |
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
Rich wrote:
"Full disclosu I am a confessed Canon shooter. As such, I find the Nikon interface annoying." From the review, it seems you get higher ISO noise than one of the 8 meg DSLRs like the Canon 30D, and entry-level Nikon D50 but you get the extra resolution of the 10 megapixels and a host of more advanced features (he called them "pro" but I had some of them on my prosumer) than either of the other two cameras. -Rich Unless we know the exact shooting conditions for each shot (i.e. exposure for each shot as well as an assumption that the lighting did not change), we can not draw a conclusion about the noise based on these images. If the "confessed Canon shooter" didn't pay attention to details of exposure (and keep in mind "actual" iso ratings will likely differ between models), then there is bound to be more noise in one of those photos when trying to match exposure in post processing. Also, doesn't Digic II automatically apply noise reduction algorithms? -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 |
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
Frank ess wrote: http://www.creativepro.com/story/rev...l?cprose=daily Seems like a nice review. Too bad he did not like the button layout, but that, as he says several times, is extremely subjective and largely a matter of what you are used to. What a shock: the Nikon is noisier than the Canon at ISO 1600. Oddly, although I use Nikons and I shoot a lot of night pictures, I have never really found that this bothers me a lot. Possibly it is because even my night pictures are usually no more than ISO 400. It is a habit that I developed from the old film days, so maybe I just adjusted more easily to Nikon. |
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
http://www.creativepro.com/story/rev...l?cprose=daily Unless we know the exact shooting conditions for each shot (i.e. exposure for each shot as well as an assumption that the lighting did not change), we can not draw a conclusion about the noise based on these images. If the "confessed Canon shooter" didn't pay attention to details of exposure (and keep in mind "actual" iso ratings will likely differ between models), then there is bound to be more noise in one of those photos when trying to match exposure in post processing. Also, doesn't Digic II automatically apply noise reduction algorithms? The noise comparison shown looks awful. I hope there was some error in the testing, that doesn't seem right. http://www.creativepro.com/img/story/20060403_fg3.jpg |
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
Paul Furman wrote: Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: http://www.creativepro.com/story/rev...l?cprose=daily Unless we know the exact shooting conditions for each shot (i.e. exposure for each shot as well as an assumption that the lighting did not change), we can not draw a conclusion about the noise based on these images. If the "confessed Canon shooter" didn't pay attention to details of exposure (and keep in mind "actual" iso ratings will likely differ between models), then there is bound to be more noise in one of those photos when trying to match exposure in post processing. Also, doesn't Digic II automatically apply noise reduction algorithms? The noise comparison shown looks awful. I hope there was some error in the testing, that doesn't seem right. http://www.creativepro.com/img/story/20060403_fg3.jpg The D200 noise does look like it is worse than usual. Noise comparison with Canon on other sites does not look nearly as bad. Most Nikon users would agree that Nikons are noisier than Canons, but not that much worse. |
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
Bill writes:
cjcampbell wrote: Frank ess wrote: http://www.creativepro.com/story/rev...l?cprose=daily Seems like a nice review. Too bad he did not like the button layout, but that, as he says several times, is extremely subjective and largely a matter of what you are used to. What a shock: the Nikon is noisier than the Canon at ISO 1600. Oddly, although I use Nikons and I shoot a lot of night pictures, I have never really found that this bothers me a lot. Possibly it is because even my night pictures are usually no more than ISO 400. It is a habit that I developed from the old film days, so maybe I just adjusted more easily to Nikon. To be honest, I've never cared much about noise levels for myself. I usually shoot at or below 400 as well simply because it gets the best results regardless of camera model. If you can't get a good shot at 100-400, then your technique is lacking. :-) Yeah, well, my technique is lacking. I can't reliably enough time the shot to get the musicians with their heads sharp if I'm shooting at 1/4 second. So I end up shooting at high ISO a lot. I know, I know...there are times where high ISO values are needed. But if you came prepared, you don't need anything beyond the default setting of 100 or 200. I've *got* a flash, but it won't look right and it will annoy the subjects (at 3am at an informal musician's jam session). -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Bill writes: Yeah, well, my technique is lacking. I can't reliably enough time the shot to get the musicians with their heads sharp if I'm shooting at 1/4 second. So I end up shooting at high ISO a lot. 1/4 second? Yeah, it does sound like your technique is lacking. |
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"cjcampbell" writes:
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Bill writes: Yeah, well, my technique is lacking. I can't reliably enough time the shot to get the musicians with their heads sharp if I'm shooting at 1/4 second. So I end up shooting at high ISO a lot. 1/4 second? Yeah, it does sound like your technique is lacking. Yep, any decent photographer *ought* to be able to time his shot to hit that 1/4 second when the performer isn't moving his head enough to blur it. I'm just a wuss, is all. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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Nikon D200 review on CreativePro
cjcampbell wrote:
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Bill writes: Yeah, well, my technique is lacking. I can't reliably enough time the shot to get the musicians with their heads sharp if I'm shooting at 1/4 second. So I end up shooting at high ISO a lot. 1/4 second? Yeah, it does sound like your technique is lacking. While his technique *may* be lacking, I fail to understand what you are alluding too here. If he has a slow lens and dim light, then he may indeed have to increase the ISO or use a slower shutter speed (obviously the latter requires a static subject for a sharp image). So, how is his technique lacking if he shoots at a higher ISO? -- Thomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 |
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