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Old April 29th 05, 07:43 AM
measekite
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Default PC MAG FZ5 Review

PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo websites
give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20 a
much more favorable review.

PC MAG did point out many negatives that the others did not. Now I am
confused. I sure would like to see PC MAG review the Canon S2 ASAP.


Any comments on this?
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Old April 29th 05, 07:55 AM
Siddhartha Jain
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measekite wrote:
PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo

websites
give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20

a
much more favorable review.

PC MAG did point out many negatives that the others did not. Now I

am
confused. I sure would like to see PC MAG review the Canon S2 ASAP.


No offense, but do you look at PC MAG for automobile reviews? There are
plenty of good online resources to look for camera/lens reviews. PC MAG
does best reviewing computer gear and they should stick to that.

For camera reviews, look at:
www.dpreview.com
www.dcresource.com
www.megapixel.net
www.steves-digicams.com

You can also look at user reviews at:
www.photographyreview.com
www.photo.net

All these aren't the final word on photo gear but definitely give you a
good idea.


- Siddhartha

- Siddhartha

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Old April 29th 05, 04:38 PM
measekite
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What is disturbing is the fact the same organization rating the FZ20 far
better. I certainly would lke to know why.

Siddhartha Jain wrote:

measekite wrote:


PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo


websites


give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20


a


much more favorable review.

PC MAG did point out many negatives that the others did not. Now I


am


confused. I sure would like to see PC MAG review the Canon S2 ASAP.



No offense, but do you look at PC MAG for automobile reviews? There are
plenty of good online resources to look for camera/lens reviews. PC MAG
does best reviewing computer gear and they should stick to that.

For camera reviews, look at:
www.dpreview.com
www.dcresource.com
www.megapixel.net
www.steves-digicams.com

You can also look at user reviews at:
www.photographyreview.com
www.photo.net

All these aren't the final word on photo gear but definitely give you a
good idea.


- Siddhartha

- Siddhartha



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Old April 29th 05, 04:38 PM
measekite
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What is disturbing is the fact the same organization rating the FZ20 far
better. I certainly would lke to know why.

Siddhartha Jain wrote:

measekite wrote:


PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo


websites


give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20


a


much more favorable review.

PC MAG did point out many negatives that the others did not. Now I


am


confused. I sure would like to see PC MAG review the Canon S2 ASAP.



No offense, but do you look at PC MAG for automobile reviews? There are
plenty of good online resources to look for camera/lens reviews. PC MAG
does best reviewing computer gear and they should stick to that.

For camera reviews, look at:
www.dpreview.com
www.dcresource.com
www.megapixel.net
www.steves-digicams.com

You can also look at user reviews at:
www.photographyreview.com
www.photo.net

All these aren't the final word on photo gear but definitely give you a
good idea.


- Siddhartha

- Siddhartha



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Old April 29th 05, 09:14 PM
Ron Hunter
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measekite wrote:
What is disturbing is the fact the same organization rating the FZ20 far
better. I certainly would lke to know why.

Siddhartha Jain wrote:

measekite wrote:


PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo


websites


give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20


a


much more favorable review.

PC MAG did point out many negatives that the others did not. Now I


am


confused. I sure would like to see PC MAG review the Canon S2 ASAP.



No offense, but do you look at PC MAG for automobile reviews? There are
plenty of good online resources to look for camera/lens reviews. PC MAG
does best reviewing computer gear and they should stick to that.

For camera reviews, look at:
www.dpreview.com
www.dcresource.com
www.megapixel.net
www.steves-digicams.com

You can also look at user reviews at:
www.photographyreview.com
www.photo.net

All these aren't the final word on photo gear but definitely give you a
good idea.


- Siddhartha

- Siddhartha




Let me guess. Because it is a different camera, that costs a lot more?
Nawww, that can't have anything to do with it...
My experience with magazine tests is that they are quite subjective, and
often biased toward whatever company advertises with the magazine...


--
Ron Hunter
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Old April 30th 05, 11:46 AM
Lin Chung
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Measekite wrote:
PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo websites
give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20 a
much more favorable review. PC MAG did point out many negatives that the
others did not. Now I am confused....



In the halcyon days of personal computing, the American "Byte" magazine held
the sway. Then came along "PC Magazine" which later moved its European
operation to London, then moved again to be an eZine. Its review articles
have been very influential in the industry and I suspect many products had
been saved or destroyed by the 'oracles' from the magazine. The comparative
articles are well written and as non-subjective as possible, as far as I
could see. Their research/comparative survey methodology is published for
public scrutiny. While the standard varies in different edition, the level
has been always very high indeed. I appreciate their objective numerical
measurements, statistical analysis and their graphical representations, not
to mention their tutorials. In comparison, the personal opinion in other
publications are no more than just that, 'personal opinion'.

Digital camera is a specialized computer. It is very much akin to a scan
machine, or, even a computer digital monitor. And, this magazine has an
deservedly enviable reputation in comparative reviews in computers and
peripherals.

I put the opinion from "PC Magazine" above *all* the others one easily finds
on the WWW, especially those with numerous adverts from manufacturers. Now
that its negative commends on FZ5 are voiced, it is even more interesting!

--
Lin Chung.
[The Water Margins of Liang Shan Po were at the time of the Sung dynasty.
Replace that with "ntlworld" for emails.]



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Old April 30th 05, 11:46 AM
Lin Chung
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Measekite wrote:
PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo websites
give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20 a
much more favorable review. PC MAG did point out many negatives that the
others did not. Now I am confused....



In the halcyon days of personal computing, the American "Byte" magazine held
the sway. Then came along "PC Magazine" which later moved its European
operation to London, then moved again to be an eZine. Its review articles
have been very influential in the industry and I suspect many products had
been saved or destroyed by the 'oracles' from the magazine. The comparative
articles are well written and as non-subjective as possible, as far as I
could see. Their research/comparative survey methodology is published for
public scrutiny. While the standard varies in different edition, the level
has been always very high indeed. I appreciate their objective numerical
measurements, statistical analysis and their graphical representations, not
to mention their tutorials. In comparison, the personal opinion in other
publications are no more than just that, 'personal opinion'.

Digital camera is a specialized computer. It is very much akin to a scan
machine, or, even a computer digital monitor. And, this magazine has an
deservedly enviable reputation in comparative reviews in computers and
peripherals.

I put the opinion from "PC Magazine" above *all* the others one easily finds
on the WWW, especially those with numerous adverts from manufacturers. Now
that its negative commends on FZ5 are voiced, it is even more interesting!

--
Lin Chung.
[The Water Margins of Liang Shan Po were at the time of the Sung dynasty.
Replace that with "ntlworld" for emails.]



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Old April 30th 05, 09:52 PM
Siddhartha Jain
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Lin Chung wrote:
Their research/comparative survey methodology is published for
public scrutiny. While the standard varies in different edition, the

level
has been always very high indeed. I appreciate their objective

numerical
measurements, statistical analysis and their graphical

representations, not
to mention their tutorials. In comparison, the personal opinion in

other
publications are no more than just that, 'personal opinion'.

Your insistence that PCMag's reviews are of a high standard, as you
have so eloquently described above, drew me to read the review.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1785992,00.asp

- I couldn't find the testing/review methodology anywhere.
- I found it very interesting that not a single photograph from the
camera is published in the *review* nor any comparison shots.
- For all talk of detailed objective study, all I could find is some
reference to *lines*. Whats that? Lines per mm? Rows of pixels? Columns
of pixels?


Digital camera is a specialized computer. It is very much akin to a

scan
machine, or, even a computer digital monitor. And, this magazine has

an
deservedly enviable reputation in comparative reviews in computers

and
peripherals.

By those standards, a lot of gadgetry around consists of specialised
computers. One might argue that modern automobiles are robots (a
specialised computer).

I put the opinion from "PC Magazine" above *all* the others one

easily finds
on the WWW, especially those with numerous adverts from

manufacturers. Now
that its negative commends on FZ5 are voiced, it is even more

interesting!
PCMag's review could be *easily* found on the WWW just like
dpreview/dcresource/megapixel. How does easily available relate to the
quality of the review? Are hard to find reviews somehow better? As for
adverts, I don't see them anywhere, thanks to adblock

To sum-up, after reading PCMag's review, I am more sure that PCMag's
camera reviews are below pathetic. They should stick to testing PCs
(not even enterprise class machines).

- Siddhartha

  #10  
Old May 1st 05, 08:12 PM
David J Taylor
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measekite wrote:
PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ5 a poor review. The major photo websites
give it a more favorable review. Yet PC MAG gave the Panasonic FZ20 a
much more favorable review.

PC MAG did point out many negatives that the others did not. Now I am
confused. I sure would like to see PC MAG review the Canon S2 ASAP.


What specific negatives? I have both cameras so could perhaps verify what
they say. Personally, though, the digital camera reviews in PC magazines
are a laught- a 5MP camera is likely to be rated "much better" than a 4MP
camera irrespective of any other attributes.....

Cheers,
David


 




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