Sony Ericsson W800i or K750i

All,

I bought a Kyocere Finecam SL400R in order to constantly carry it with me
for snapshots. It turned out that it actually spent most of the time at
home partly because I didn't want to carry an extra item partly because if
often simply forgot it. Anyway, at the moment I'm looking into buying a
mobile phone with a decent camera instead. That's where the subject comes
in: does anyone of you have experience with these phones' photography
performance (speed, image quality, power consumption)? Thanks!

Kind regards

robert

In Robert Klemme wrote:

Anyway, at the moment I'm looking into buying a mobile phone with a
decent camera instead. Does anyone of you have experience with these
phones' photography performance.

You should probably not use the word speed and camera phones in the same
sentence without also using the word not in said sentence. =)

I use a K750i and I must say that as a point and shoot it does fill its
purpose. If you can stand still long enough and have good light, it takes
quite usable snapshots. Obviously outdoors and during the day is the best
time, but it has a help lamp that tries to make up for the lack of
flashlight, and does, at least if your subject is really close, say at one
meter or so. Going back to the speed issue; The k750i is not a fix focus
camera, so it takes what feels like ages for it to focus and take the
image. You will get somewhere between one and several seconds of shutter
delay on this device. So make sure your subject sits tight. =)

The result is fairly ok anyway. You can't compare it with the output of
a real camera, but the 2Mp makes it good enough for snapshots. I have
even printed some images and though not perfect, the paper copies where
good enough to use as post cards and to show to my friends.

Usabilitywise I actually think the camera part of the K750 is a treat!
Even when the phone key board otherwise is locked, as soon as you open
the lens cover, the phone goes into the camera application, and is ready
to shoot. So you never need to flick through loads of menues, or
remember what obscure key combination unlocked the phone, before you
can take that snapshot. Likewise, when you're done, close the lens
cover, and the phone is locked again. Also, you can adjust the white
balance using the joystick while composing your image, also convenient.

When you connect the phone to a computer with usb it is presented as a
usb disc, so even my Linux boxes recognises it automaticly as a drive.

To sum it up, it isn't a real camera. But it is usable for snapshots. Try
one out, and especially check if you can live with the somewhat sluggish
shutter delay. Other than that I dont really have any issue with it.

--
Fredrik Jonson

Fredrik Jonson wrote:
In Robert Klemme wrote:

Anyway, at the moment I'm looking into buying a mobile phone with a
decent camera instead. Does anyone of you have experience with
these phones' photography performance.

You should probably not use the word speed and camera phones in the
same sentence without also using the word not in said sentence. =)

:-))

To sum it up, it isn't a real camera. But it is usable for snapshots.
Try one out, and especially check if you can live with the somewhat
sluggish shutter delay. Other than that I dont really have any issue
with it.

Frederik, thanks for the lengthy review! That's exactly what I was
looking for.

Kind regards

robert

Fredrik Jonson wrote:
In Robert Klemme wrote:

Anyway, at the moment I'm looking into buying a mobile phone with a
decent camera instead. Does anyone of you have experience with these
phones' photography performance.

You should probably not use the word speed and camera phones in the same
sentence without also using the word not in said sentence. =)

I use a K750i and I must say that as a point and shoot it does fill its
purpose. If you can stand still long enough and have good light, it takes
quite usable snapshots. Obviously outdoors and during the day is the best
time, but it has a help lamp that tries to make up for the lack of
flashlight, and does, at least if your subject is really close, say at one
meter or so. Going back to the speed issue; The k750i is not a fix focus
camera, so it takes what feels like ages for it to focus and take the
image. You will get somewhere between one and several seconds of shutter
delay on this device. So make sure your subject sits tight. =)

The result is fairly ok anyway. You can't compare it with the output of
a real camera, but the 2Mp makes it good enough for snapshots. I have
even printed some images and though not perfect, the paper copies where
good enough to use as post cards and to show to my friends.

Usabilitywise I actually think the camera part of the K750 is a treat!
Even when the phone key board otherwise is locked, as soon as you open
the lens cover, the phone goes into the camera application, and is ready
to shoot. So you never need to flick through loads of menues, or
remember what obscure key combination unlocked the phone, before you
can take that snapshot. Likewise, when you're done, close the lens
cover, and the phone is locked again. Also, you can adjust the white
balance using the joystick while composing your image, also convenient.

When you connect the phone to a computer with usb it is presented as a
usb disc, so even my Linux boxes recognises it automaticly as a drive.

To sum it up, it isn't a real camera. But it is usable for snapshots. Try
one out, and especially check if you can live with the somewhat sluggish
shutter delay. Other than that I dont really have any issue with it.

Just a point, make sure the compression used doesn't spoil the pix. My
Motorola cam phone takes 640x489, which should result in a 1 meg bit map
file. For memory limits these are squashed into typically a 25K jpg
file, with terrible effects on quality.

peter wrote:
Just a point, make sure the compression used doesn't spoil the pix. My
Motorola cam phone takes 640x489, which should result in a 1 meg bit
map file. For memory limits these are squashed into typically a 25K
jpg file, with terrible effects on quality.

Good point. Btw, I got aware that Sony Ericsson is about to release K800i
which claims to be far closer to a real CyberShot than any Sony mobile
before. Might be a candidate, too, but it's going to be eeeexpensive.

Kind regards

robert