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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
On 2018-03-27 05:59:11 +0000, nospam said:
In article , android wrote: On 2018-03-27 04:53:39 +0000, nospam said: All of these run fine on Windows 98, Win2000, and WinXP. (Beyond that, I dont know. I have never used any MS OS beyond XP) assuming that's actually true, why the hell not? for that to be true, you'd need to still be using obsolete hardware to run obsolete unsupported operating systems that are full of security exploits. worse, you're connecting the computer to the internet, putting yourself at risk as well as others. You're in the crowd that want to have certifications for OSes and other soft that hits the internet, right? there should be. there are way too many insecure unpatched systems which are easily pwned. security is unfortunately, an afterthought. also, require certification of *users* to access the net and deny access to spammers. murdering spammers in as painful of a way as possible for all of the crap they've caused would be a much better solution, but blocking access will suffice. for now. and now we know... -- teleportation kills |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
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| I just opened PSP 5. | It says: | | Paint Shop Pro Version 5.01 Evaluation (JASC) | | Build Information: | Build Date Jun 11 1998 @ 09:07:49 | Build Mode Release (5000102) | | Maybe that's not "Shareware" but it was free, as an evaluation. | 20 years later, it still works, and I have never seen any limitations. I | just see a nag screen when it loads telling me to register it. | I don't remember ever seeing that. When I bought 5 it came on a CD, in a box, from a store. But I think that timeframe was when a lot of things were changing. I have a brother who got Photoshop 4 with a scanner. I got PSP4 with various hardware. It was a time of transition to more professional usage of graphics programs It's likely all of your software would run on Win7 and Win10. I haven't used Win10, but haven't yet found anything that won't run on Win7. Microsoft never really break backward compatibility, in general. |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
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wrote: I have a brother who got Photoshop 4 with a scanner. no you definitely do not. what you have is a brother who got photoshop *elements* with a scanner. what you also have is your own failure to understand the difference, despite it having been explained to you on numerous occasions. I got PSP4 with various hardware. It was a time of transition to more professional usage of graphics programs no. It's likely all of your software would run on Win7 and Win10. I haven't used Win10, but haven't yet found anything that won't run on Win7. that doesn't mean they don't exist. they do and they're going to become more common going forward. Microsoft never really break backward compatibility, in general. that used to be true. microsoft no longer has an illegal monopoly (and is actually becoming a minority player), so now they have to actually compete on a level playing field with other companies. that means breaking with the past to be able to advance the platform rather than shipping the same old crap designed to lock people in. |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
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wrote: All of these run fine on Windows 98, Win2000, and WinXP. (Beyond that, I dont know. I have never used any MS OS beyond XP) assuming that's actually true, why the hell not? for that to be true, you'd need to still be using obsolete hardware to run obsolete unsupported operating systems that are full of security exploits. worse, you're connecting the computer to the internet, putting yourself at risk as well as others. And then I also have Photoshop 5.0. (registered) That also works on Windows 98, Win2000, and WinXP. except that those are full of security holes and will never be patched. worse, modern software can't run on any of them. Thats all I really use (or need). I tried Gimp, and removed it. at least you did something right. Uhhh,,, so you're one of those kind.... The ones who believe all that security ****, most which is based on blatant lies promoted by Symantec and other companies that make up lies about viruses and malware so they can make a fortune on selling their softeware which is supposed to eliminate all the evils they create. complete nonsense. And yea, I am sure they do create some viruses too in order to sell more of their crap. at least one did, but that's the exception, not the rule. Not only that, but all this secirity crap is ruining the internet. Many of the httpS sites will no longer load, only because you're using outdated browsers running on outdated operating systems. it's slowed down the whole internet, no it isn't. the internet is much faster than it's ever been. and I get so goddamn tired of alerts and warnings telling me that my system is not secure and needs to be updated, that I could puke. then fix your system and you won't be warned anymore. your choice. No, I'm not a troll (but it sounds like you might be one). I cna only use what I can afford. computers that can run win7-10 can be had for little to nothing at garage sales and flea markets because nobody wants them. Maybe when you retire and have to live on social security, you wont be able to afford new computers and pay MS for their overpriced OSs either. However, if you want to pay for a new computer for me, I will gladly accept it. in other words, you failed to plan for your retirement and are mooching off others. rest of your crap snipped. |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
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| He's in the crowd that has ruined the internet by controlling it to the | point whgere it's no longer fun or useful. I don't think it's as nasty as that. He's simply a wiseacre who has to have an opinion and bicker about *everything*. Unfortunately, many people are fooled by his talent for sounding coherent, which causes a lot of confusion because he rarely says anything acurate and couldn't care less about actually understanding things. But it can't be helped. Someone proposed recently that nospam is actually a bot. It's an intriguing idea. His responses are nearly always oblique, related only superficially, and contain no actual information: A: The sky is blue. N: Obviously. A: I like to eat oatmeal bread. N: Pumpernickel is better. A: Acme Chair sells 4 styles of chaise lounge. N: Wrong. A computer could come up with that kind of thing. Nospam could very well be an experiemnt run by the kids at Stanford to research how people rspond to arguing. | The early internet was a place to explore and it seemed limitless. | Everyone had their own websites and some were creative, while others | were just very basic Amazing how much things have changed, isn't it? I set up my first site on my free Mindspring (ISP) web space. It took a few days to learn enough HTML to get going. My sense was that everyone would just chip in whatever they had that might be useful to others. Much of that is still there, but the ad-supported business model hides it. Google gives points for incoming links and frequent updates. And they make the most money from sites with Google/Doubleclick ads. So they just don't even list a lot of pages anymore. The top ones are almost always commercial. And many people are just eating pre-digested Facebook or Twitter gruel. The same people who pay to have their drinking water put into a plastic bottle, pay to do yoga, pay to walk, and record it all on their Fitbit so their life can be official. And the same people who look for "cutting edge" thinking in TED talks. "Consumers". They've been persuaded that the Internet is not a town square but a shopping mall. On the other hand, it's only their own laziness that's allowed it to happen. But there are still plenty of interesting things out there. They sometimes require more work to find, but I regularly get good information about all sorts of things. (This morning I was researching pre-made shower slope products to go under shower bed mud.) |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 00:53:39 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , wrote: I actually run it in Windows 98. I use Win98 for almost all my graphic editing, simply because it works and is easy to use. troll alert. I also have PSP 3.12 (32bit) PSP 4.14 PSP 5.01 PSP 7.0 Installed on the same computer. I like the screen capture in 3.12 better than in other versions. I use 4.14 most of the time, for just basic editing. It's simple, and I like that. 5.01 has features I like and use, but 4.14 is easier to use. Version 7.0 was commercial, but I found it online for free, so I have it, but rarely use it. All of these run fine on Windows 98, Win2000, and WinXP. (Beyond that, I dont know. I have never used any MS OS beyond XP) assuming that's actually true, why the hell not? for that to be true, you'd need to still be using obsolete hardware to run obsolete unsupported operating systems that are full of security exploits. worse, you're connecting the computer to the internet, putting yourself at risk as well as others. And then I also have Photoshop 5.0. (registered) That also works on Windows 98, Win2000, and WinXP. except that those are full of security holes and will never be patched. worse, modern software can't run on any of them. Thats all I really use (or need). I tried Gimp, and removed it. at least you did something right. Uhhh,,, so you're one of those kind.... The ones who believe all that security ****, most which is based on blatant lies promoted by Symantec and other companies that make up lies about viruses and malware so they can make a fortune on selling their softeware which is supposed to eliminate all the evils they create. And yea, I am sure they do create some viruses too in order to sell more of their crap. Not only that, but all this secirity crap is ruining the internet. Many of the httpS sites will no longer load, it's slowed down the whole internet, and I get so goddamn tired of alerts and warnings telling me that my system is not secure and needs to be updated, that I could puke. No, I'm not a troll (but it sounds like you might be one). I cna only use what I can afford. Maybe when you retire and have to live on social security, you wont be able to afford new computers and pay MS for their overpriced OSs either. However, if you want to pay for a new computer for me, I will gladly accept it. One other thing to note, is that Win98 is about as safe as anyone can get as far as "security". No one bothers to create malware for W98 anymore.... Then too, you could NOT give me Windows 10, or even 8, for that matter. Having MS spy on me and track everything I do, is not going to happen. The same reason I refuse to use Facebook. On top of that, I hate bloatware and Windows 8 and 10 are nothing but bloatware. I would consider trying Win7 though, if I had the hardware to run it. Anyhow, I did not join this topic to talk about security and YOUR desirte to own the latest bloatware. I joined in, to talk about photoshop and similar photo editing software. I use what works for me, and what I can afford. If you dont like what I use, **** YOU! Tossing nospam into my killfile takes about 3 seconds. END OF SECURITY TOPIC! |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | He's in the crowd that has ruined the internet by controlling it to the | point whgere it's no longer fun or useful. I don't think it's as nasty as that. He's simply a wiseacre who has to have an opinion and bicker about *everything*. Unfortunately, many people are fooled by his talent for sounding coherent, which causes a lot of confusion because he rarely says anything acurate and couldn't care less about actually understanding things. But it can't be helped. ad hominem attack noted, and amusingly enough, that actually describes you perfectly. all you do is repeat the usual anti-apple, anti-google, anti-technology matra, despite facts showing you to be completely wrong, along with you not understanding what the various companies you rant about are actually doing, which is almost always *not* what you claim it to be. |
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I'm looking for a book on Photoshop - 'Inside Photoshop".
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 07:35:02 +0200, android wrote:
On 2018-03-27 04:53:39 +0000, nospam said: All of these run fine on Windows 98, Win2000, and WinXP. (Beyond that, I dont know. I have never used any MS OS beyond XP) assuming that's actually true, why the hell not? for that to be true, you'd need to still be using obsolete hardware to run obsolete unsupported operating systems that are full of security exploits. worse, you're connecting the computer to the internet, putting yourself at risk as well as others. You're in the crowd that want to have certifications for OSes and other soft that hits the internet, right? He's in the crowd that has ruined the internet by controlling it to the point whgere it's no longer fun or useful. Back in the 90s, it was a lot of fun, and one could be creative online, without having to kiss ass to companies such as google and microsoft, and allowing them to exploit users, and steal their identity so their huge companies can get wealthy. When the internet first started, it was intended to be free (except for paying an ISP for service). Yea, there was spam, and trolls, and idiots, and there was a lot of pirated software going around, which was actually a lot of fun trying to obtain it. I guess that made all of us early users of the internet into criminals, for using a little pirated software, but far less criminal than those today who load automatic weapons and murder school children. The early internet was a place to explore and it seemed limitless. Everyone had their own websites and some were creative, while others were just very basic, but everyone online had their own adventure to share. Now everyone is shoved inot the same dreaded monotonous box on a facebook page, while facebook has become the worlds most wealthy company in the world, by exploiting people and stealing their identity. Usenet is nearly dead, but it's the last of the original internet and the only last place online that is still relatively safe from identity theft, unless you are stupid enough to reveal your personal info. In another year or two, the internet will be such a sterile place that no one will be able to use it, unless they use specific software, and have a fat wallet to pay for it. Ther entire internet will be controlled by a handful of companies such as google and facebook, who will solely use it for their own profit, and they will laugh all the way to the bank. I'll take the OLD internet anyday, even with its spam, malware and heaven forbid warez. |
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