Worth Getting Muddy...

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Last week in Yosemite.
After 4 days making trips into the park, the rain (and snow) finally stopped
and the sun broke through...

I'm happy to say that this ISN'T a shot "everyone takes," since this meadow
isn't usually flooded...and I was the only person in 4 days that was willing
to wade out into the temporary pond with my tripod.

....and yes--as a matter of fact...the underwater prairie grass really was
that bright.

-Mark

Mark² wrote:
http://www.pbase.com/image/58770336/original

Last week in Yosemite.
After 4 days making trips into the park, the rain (and snow) finally
stopped and the sun broke through...

I'm happy to say that this ISN'T a shot "everyone takes," since this
meadow isn't usually flooded...and I was the only person in 4 days
that was willing to wade out into the temporary pond with my tripod.

...and yes--as a matter of fact...the underwater prairie grass
really
was that bright.

-Mark

A beauty!

"Mark²" wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/image/58770336/original

Last week in Yosemite.
After 4 days making trips into the park, the rain (and snow) finally stopped
and the sun broke through...

I'm happy to say that this ISN'T a shot "everyone takes," since this meadow
isn't usually flooded...and I was the only person in 4 days that was willing
to wade out into the temporary pond with my tripod.

...and yes--as a matter of fact...the underwater prairie grass really was
that bright.

-Mark

A beautiful shot!

Colin D.

Mark² wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/image/58770336/original

Last week in Yosemite.
After 4 days making trips into the park, the rain (and snow) finally stopped
and the sun broke through...

I'm happy to say that this ISN'T a shot "everyone takes," since this meadow
isn't usually flooded...and I was the only person in 4 days that was willing
to wade out into the temporary pond with my tripod.

...and yes--as a matter of fact...the underwater prairie grass really was
that bright.

Well done!

Nice photo but doesn't the Park have rules on distrubing ponds and
meadows? There usually are rules to stay on the trails and don't go off
the trail in sensitive areas, especially meadows flooded or dry. Did
you read the rules or inquire with the rangers when you got your
permit? I'm all for getting the best photograph, but not at the expense
of nature or breaking NPS rules.

wsrphoto wrote:
Nice photo but doesn't the Park have rules on distrubing ponds and
meadows? There usually are rules to stay on the trails and don't go
off the trail in sensitive areas, especially meadows flooded or dry.
Did you read the rules or inquire with the rangers when you got your
permit? I'm all for getting the best photograph, but not at the
expense of nature or breaking NPS rules.

Relax.

No...
I didn't break any rules, and no...it was not a forbidden area in any way.
There were two other people with cameras (one with a tripod) on the field of
mostly-dead grass. I was just the only one willing to get wet in effort for
what I saw as THE shot. The rest of the field was wet...just not submerged.

There ARE a few areas in Yosemite that are marked as "revegitation," or some
such wording...where it is suggested that you stay off. This meadow wasn't
one of them. In fact, Yosemite is a notably UNregulated area in terms of
hiking, etc. While there are some designated trails, one can backpack all
over the place (as I have done in the past at length). Hikers are indeed
warned that they risk death if they continue in certain obvious areas, but
you are not forbidden from continuing. People are allowed to die quite
frequently, which I think (aside from the tragedy of death) is great.
Freedom sometimes means danger to ones self, and I say there are very
positive aspects of that kind of freedom.

As for Rangers thoughts on my position... Several Rangers were parked
within very close sight of me for some time (apparently taking a break or
something), and others drove by numerous times. I was out there for over an
hour, and they not only didn't say anything to me, but they didn't appear to
care one wit.

Thankfully, Yosemite...although it is indeed highly regulated in terms of
traffic, parking, etc....has not fallen prey to ridiculous levels of
OVERprotection. They clearly understand that nature should be enjoyed,
photographed, hiked through, slept on, and generally experienced.

The only time I saw them ask anyone to move out of an area was when a group
of young people had taken four large, ugly, orange cones...and set up a
baseball game in the middle of one of the more picturesque fields. A ranger
very politely walked out...shook their hands...and asked them to stop (Duh).

Like you, I also believe in responsible use and enjoyment of nature.
-But I also believe that one should not SEEK to restrict it for
restriction's sake, or look for fault in those who have figured out ways to
share nature's beauty with those who can't experience it first hand for
themselves (photos).

As for disturbing the pond/valley/park... Perhaps you'll recall the huge
flood in the 90's that submerged the entire valley under about 10 feet of
water? Was the park service so dumb as to assume that it was somehow a
"good" and "natural" thing? No. They made extensive repairs and have put
it back into shape. The only indication that a flood occurred now is found
on the two or three tall signs...which indicate the amazing level the water
rose to in that event.

I think that sometimes those who *live* to "protect the Earth" sometimes
need to take a step back and remember that in order for the masses to get
behind the concept of protection...it is necessary to allow people to
actually experience it...without always being harrassed into submissive
exodus...by those whose protective sense flies in the face of common sense.

When you allow people access to nature within reasonably permissive limits,
I find that two things happen:
1: Overprotective types discover and recognise that nature is far more
resilient than some would have you believe...
2: That those who might otherwise adopt a careless attitude toward natural
resources (due to lack of access and experience) begin to not only enjoy
it...but also value it as they discover its wonders up close--rather than
from behind a chain, wall, or fence. Although there are certainly
reasonable cause for barriers in some cases, I believe that without personal
experience with nature, its pretty tough to convince people of its worth. A
lack of experience works against BOTH sides. Half of the inexperienced fall
into the mindlessly overprotective and robotic reactionary stance...where
all humanity is a profain threat to the planet...while the other half
becomes similarly and hopeless ignorant in an opposite reaction that leads
to foolish waste and disregard for natural beauty and resources.

We don't need mindless armies on EITHER side of this coin. We need a
balanced, reasonably careful, but reasonably permissive stance. Short of
this, and we risk alienation from nature, and the disregarded and/or
oppositional postures that result from the two extremes.

So...
Your concern is duly noted (and please note that I am quite unaware of the
details of your complete, personal feelings on the larger issues), but your
particular concern over my photography is not shared by the very informed,
very protective and entirely in-the-know folks who are charged with the care
and keeping of Yosemite Valley.
-And I say AMEN to that.

-Mark

Selah.

Muir Woods is one of those places where it's specifically prohibited to
leave the paths, that's understandable given that the main valley is
rather small & they get a huge number of visitors. Many other state
parks & such near urban centers have those signs. Yosemite valley is
pretty big though. It would take a lot of fence to regulate. Muir woods
has real nice fences and trail system.

Personally I like going to the less polular parks & doing a lot of
bushwhacking off trail. I was mushing through poison oak this morning in
fact.

: - )

Paul Furman wrote:
Muir Woods is one of those places where it's specifically prohibited
to leave the paths, that's understandable given that the main valley
is rather small & they get a huge number of visitors. Many other state
parks & such near urban centers have those signs. Yosemite valley is
pretty big though. It would take a lot of fence to regulate. Muir
woods has real nice fences and trail system.

Personally I like going to the less polular parks & doing a lot of
bushwhacking off trail. I was mushing through poison oak this morning
in fact.

- )

Ya...unfortunately, my wife has a nice patch of poison oak on her neck from
this trip...
I didn't notice any poison oak, but she did...and still manage to get some
on her. I suspect she brushed it with her pants...touched her pant
leg...and then her neck... Ugly.

One thing that made this particular Yosemite trip absolutely fantastic was
the crummy weather.
Crummy (and even treacherous) weather meant I saw the smallest number of
visitors in the park of any time in 30 years that I've visited. It was
great...even in heavy downpour. We were cold, soaked, and having a great
time enjoying an aspect of the park most people never venture into or stick
around for... -The messy side. It was beautifully messy. So messy, in
fact, that pictures were often out of the question (blowing, huge snow
clumps, blowing rain, and slippery...chains-required roads).

Generally I agree with you and your preference for more uninhabited areas.
I used to backpack every summer in the Minerets Wilderness (now called Ansel
Adams Wilderness). It is a large region that connects to the south-east
border of Yosemite. I've been backpacking for 9 days there where I have not
seen a SINGLE other person. Love it. Great fishing...lonely trails that
are often hard to see...and pictures everywhere you look. I'm hoping to go
packing there again this summer after a 10 year absence.

-Mark

"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
news:VXZ0g.7348$Qz.6867@fed1read11...
Hikers are indeed
warned that they risk death if they continue in certain obvious areas,
.....

The park police carry Uzi's just for this purpose.....:^)

So...
Your concern is duly noted (and please note that I am quite unaware of the
details of your complete, personal feelings on the larger issues), but your
particular concern over my photography is not shared by the very informed,
very protective and entirely in-the-know folks who are charged with the care
and keeping of Yosemite Valley.

My concern wasn't about your photography, it is a good photo. I hike in
Mt. Rainier NP and it is extensively controlled including the
backcountry areas, and fairly well overseen by rangers. And I used to
camp and hike in Yosemite in the early 1970's, long before the need for
regulation. I was only asking out of curiosity as I've seen tourists
and photographers ignore rules "to get the photo." Thanks for the
explanation, albeit presumptive my knowledge, experience, perspective
and concern.