Kyocera sl400r

Paul wrote:

I am thinking of buying Kyocera's sl400r but thought I would ask
the news community what they think of this camera first.

I owned a Kyocera SL440R for 1½ month, before it developed a LCD fault.
Luckily the seller (PixMania) gave me a refund, so I was free to choose
a new camera. I went for a Sony DCS T1 instead, but it wasn't an easy
choice.

What I didn't like about the SL400R was the missing lens cover and the
weak macro mode. I carried the camera in my pocket and I had to wipe
dust from the lens several times daily. Kyocera includes a tiny cloth
meant for a removing dust from the lens, so they're obviously aware of
the issue.

The movie mode was impressingly good for such a tiny camera, although I
find that the DCS-T1 is a tad better: The SL400R shows a lot of
compression artefacts in movies and the exposire adjustment means
flashy changes to the brightness when the light changes. The burst-mode
(3.3 images/second, live review, limited only by storage space) was
great and I miss it on the T1.

What I miss the most is the swivel lens. I used the camera for
documenting everyday life (a nice way of saying that I take pictures of
my kids) and most of the time I didn't swivel at all. I simpli held it
to my stomach and looked down at it. That serves the double purpose of
bringing the camera to the kid's height and to make the act of taking a
picture more discreet.

I had it in my pocket every day for the 1½ month and it did develop a
slight bend. It didn't affect the swiveling though and the mechanism
did feel as if it has small springs build in to it: It did allow for a
certain amoung of bending and snapped back when the pressure was
removed.

As for other quirks, my camera was horrible at taking indoor photos
when I used the indoor-photo-setting (I don't remember what it was
called, the icon showed a lightbulb and the lightning was by ordinary
lightbulbs). The auto setting worked just fine though, so I didn't
mind.

The camera did display a lot of noise with pictures that included part
of a blue sky. Maybe that's just the kind of image that shows the noise
present on all the images? I don't know, but I do know that the T1
doesn't display the same noise.

The slim and (relative to the height) long form factor was great for
pocket use. It meant that the camera didn't turn in my pocket and
consequently that I always gripped it right, when I wanted to use it.

The zoom was quiet and fast. No problems there.

Autofocusing was a problem though. I guess the camera is average at
that, but its about-a-second (no, I haven't measured it) focusing time
was too long for me. Pressing the shutterbutton halfway down focuses
and pressing th button fully takes the picture. No news there, but
since the camera took the picture at full-press, regardless of
focusing, it meant that I had to half-press, wait for the focus-light
to show and then press fully. The focus-time was too slow for me, so it
was an annoyance.

Even worse was the low-light focusing. No AF assist lamp, som the
camera tries as best as it can. Unfortunately that isn't all that good,
so typically indoow evening photos included several tries for focusing.
Manual focusing wasn't really practical as it includes several
keypresses.


The missing lens-cover, the weak autofocus and the lack of good macro
was the primary reasons for my switch to the T1. Feel free to write me,
if you want to see some everyday pictures taken by an amateur using
the SL400R (and later the T1).

Paul wrote:

I am thinking of buying Kyocera's sl400r but thought I would ask
the news community what they think of this camera first.

I owned a Kyocera SL440R for 1½ month, before it developed a LCD fault.
Luckily the seller (PixMania) gave me a refund, so I was free to choose
a new camera. I went for a Sony DCS T1 instead, but it wasn't an easy
choice.

What I didn't like about the SL400R was the missing lens cover and the
weak macro mode. I carried the camera in my pocket and I had to wipe
dust from the lens several times daily. Kyocera includes a tiny cloth
meant for a removing dust from the lens, so they're obviously aware of
the issue.

The movie mode was impressingly good for such a tiny camera, although I
find that the DCS-T1 is a tad better: The SL400R shows a lot of
compression artefacts in movies and the exposire adjustment means
flashy changes to the brightness when the light changes. The burst-mode
(3.3 images/second, live review, limited only by storage space) was
great and I miss it on the T1.

What I miss the most is the swivel lens. I used the camera for
documenting everyday life (a nice way of saying that I take pictures of
my kids) and most of the time I didn't swivel at all. I simpli held it
to my stomach and looked down at it. That serves the double purpose of
bringing the camera to the kid's height and to make the act of taking a
picture more discreet.

I had it in my pocket every day for the 1½ month and it did develop a
slight bend. It didn't affect the swiveling though and the mechanism
did feel as if it has small springs build in to it: It did allow for a
certain amoung of bending and snapped back when the pressure was
removed.

As for other quirks, my camera was horrible at taking indoor photos
when I used the indoor-photo-setting (I don't remember what it was
called, the icon showed a lightbulb and the lightning was by ordinary
lightbulbs). The auto setting worked just fine though, so I didn't
mind.

The camera did display a lot of noise with pictures that included part
of a blue sky. Maybe that's just the kind of image that shows the noise
present on all the images? I don't know, but I do know that the T1
doesn't display the same noise.

The slim and (relative to the height) long form factor was great for
pocket use. It meant that the camera didn't turn in my pocket and
consequently that I always gripped it right, when I wanted to use it.

The zoom was quiet and fast. No problems there.

Autofocusing was a problem though. I guess the camera is average at
that, but its about-a-second (no, I haven't measured it) focusing time
was too long for me. Pressing the shutterbutton halfway down focuses
and pressing th button fully takes the picture. No news there, but
since the camera took the picture at full-press, regardless of
focusing, it meant that I had to half-press, wait for the focus-light
to show and then press fully. The focus-time was too slow for me, so it
was an annoyance.

Even worse was the low-light focusing. No AF assist lamp, som the
camera tries as best as it can. Unfortunately that isn't all that good,
so typically indoow evening photos included several tries for focusing.
Manual focusing wasn't really practical as it includes several
keypresses.


The missing lens-cover, the weak autofocus and the lack of good macro
was the primary reasons for my switch to the T1. Feel free to write me,
if you want to see some everyday pictures taken by an amateur using
the SL400R (and later the T1).