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Old May 21st 17, 03:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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16:23:02 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote:

That does *not* mean malware written specifically to take
advantage of mac users doesn't exist. infact, it does.


it does, but it's rare and relies on the user to do something
stupid. the exploit is not the mac, but the person using it.


Most malware relies on stupid users...With some notable exceptions.
And, it's not as rare as you seem to think. In fact, it's on the
rise. I've included some urls in this post, but a simple search
query for osx or mac malware would provide LOTS more, if you
actually wanted to educate yourself.

Hospitals don't routinely use Macs.


yes they do, as well as a significant number of ios devices.


In which country? The ones I've seen in the states are PC Based. Not Mac.
The VA in Johnson City, TN is PC based. Not mac.

Do you have specific hospitals that are mac and not PC based?

while windows may be the most common, it's not the only system in
use.


No, it's not. And, PCs aren't limited to windows.

Macs used to have the schools in the US on essential lockdown,
but, that's changed too. Now adays, kids are sent home with
Windows based laptops on lease from the school, typically budget
Dells (in this area)


nope. schools have mostly moved to chromebooks. there are also a
lot of ipads in use too.


Depends on what state/city you live in. As I said, in this area,
they are coming home with Dells, not macs.

As for the schools doing the chromebook thing:

https://www.eff.org/press/releases/g...-federal-trade
https://www.eff.org/wp/school-issued...tudent-privacy

nope. mac os is *less* proprietary than windows is. much of it is
open source. almost none of windows is open source.


Some of it's open source, not all of it. And, I wasn't comparing it
to Windows, either. PC doesn't automatically mean, Windows, despite
the god awful actions of Microsoft to try and make it that way.


LOL! The individual I tried to warn you about would disagree with
you. I'm infamous as a former blackhat. I've got quite the
reputation that he enjoys reminding me of at times. Some of my
'work' was written about in Rolling Stone magazine. So, doubt all
you like.


bull****.


Nope...here's the section of the transcribed article about me and
one of my actual PC (multi OS) based viruses:

You can contact Rolling Stone and confirm this is from them, the
actual print magazine with David Spade on the cover practically
naked except for the plant covering him. I know, because I bought
several physical copies of it when the article below came out. I
liked seeing my handle in actual print magazine. It really stroked
my ego. ROFL!


http://vxheaven.org/lib/static/vdat/misc0031.htm
Notes from the virus Underground...

Computer viruses are the terrorist threat of the digital age.
The inside story of who creates them and why...
By Kim Neely

This article originally appeared in the Sept 16th, 1999 issue of
Rolling Stone magazine.

If you did make this virus then first off, damn you," reads a June
2nd Usenet post by one Marcin Mirski. "And second, how can I get my
infected files back?"

Messages like this turn up fairly often in the alt.comp.virus
newsgroup. Mirski has come to the group to ask about the happy faces
that keep showing up on his screen when he's using Windows 98. The
happy faces, he reported in an earlier post, are accompanied by a
message reading, "Oops! I've got such terrible munchies. TERMiTE
v1.0 RAiD [SLAM]".

Within twenty-four hours, Mirski's query has been answered with a
post by RAiD, the proud papa of TERMiTE, a.k.a. HLLP.5000. "Isn't he
kewl?" asks RAiD in his response. "Have you seen my graphical
payload yet? Does it look like crawling termites to you? Have you
seen my other payload yet? You're still here, so I guess not."

Other posters add to the thread, explaining to Mirski the steps he
needs to follow to get rid of TERMiTE. before it launches the
randomly triggered second payload, which will wipe his hard drive.
In the midst of advice giving, David Chess, a highly respected
antivirus researcher with IBM, pointedly addresses TERMiTE's author:
"Just out of curiosity, RAiD, did you feel any impulse whatsoever to
apologize to Mr. Mirski for having written a damaging virus in the
first place?"

"None Whatsoever," RAiD fires back. "I'm rather proud of that virus,
why on earth would I apologize for something it was designed to do?
Mind you, I didn't expect it to get as far as it has, but that's
neither here nor there."

A member of the VX group Slam and one of the loudest, most
unrepentant coders on the Net, RAiD is the kind of virus writer who
makes antivirus workers - and often other virus writers - gnash
their teeth in frustation. He's the guy who pops into the mind of PC
users as they nervously scan their disks with AV software. Not only
does he write viruses with malicious payloads, he also takes a
fairly obvious measure of delight in watching them spread.

You were saying? I know a considerable amount about Malware as
it relates to the most common platforms for it's delivery, That of the PC.
While MAC malware is marginal, it's hardly non existant.

https://arstechnica.com/security/201...d-for-2-years/
https://9to5mac.com/2016/07/06/backd...r-mac-malware/
http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs...e-in-the-wild/
https://www.howtogeek.com/210589/mac...mic-has-begun/
https://www.welivesecurity.com/2016/...y-credentials/

Macs are by no means, as secure from Malware as you may have thought.

by itself sure. once it's unzipped, not so much.


How's that? The .zip file itself is harmless. The unzipped contents
may not be, but, that's not on the .zip file itself. Any archive
format has the same problem. We aren't talking about self extracting
executables, but actual .zip files that require a 3rd party
unarchiving tool.



You actually run a better risk of
something nasty coming from a pdf...


that depends on the pdf viewer. some are safer than others.


safer is the keyword of the day. Saferperfectly safe. A standard
..zip file is nothing more than an archive. It cannot pose any danger
to you simply by unzipping it, UNLESS, it's not a standard .zip file
and you're using a vulnerable client. unlike PDF files.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/researc...g-as-pdf-file/
https://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002241.html



What part of, downloading something doesn't automatically result
in an 'infection' is too complicated for you to understand?


absolutely false. it *can*.


Cite Example(s) of something that simply being downloaded is harmful.

not as much as you think you do, and very little of what you know
is applicable to macs.


You seem to grossly underestimate the knowledge I have on the
subject of Malware. I provided some links to some virus families I
wrote, personally. I also included the fact I was recruited to work
for a company known as Malwarebytes as an expert Malware Researcher.
I processed lots! of live, binary 0day, samples on a weekly basis
for them.

As well as writing my own antimalware scanner.
This is a partial list of the things it knew about at the time of
it's active development:

http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/partlist.txt


you're also not the only person who knows about security.


I didn't claim I was, but, OTH, I didn't claim the comment about
being written about in Rolling Stone magazine was bull****
either...So you'll have to forgive me if I laugh at you quite a bit.
Ok?



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I would like to apologize for not having offended you yet.
Please be patient. I will get to you shortly.
 




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