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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use in firmware
Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware
Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use in firmware
"Alan Browne" wrote in message
... Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). Before screaming "boycott" like some 1970's shop steward you might like to consider that fake batteries could be a problem. -- Charles E Hardwidge |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use infirmware
On 20-06-09 16:48, Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). Before screaming "boycott" like some 1970's shop steward you might like to consider that fake batteries could be a problem. As I use 3rd party batteries (at 1/3 the Sony price) and have had no issues, why not? Most of these 3rd party batteries, esp. Li-ion, have the protection circuit built in and this is stated on their product sheets. And that is what I checked (via the re-seller) when I bought them. All this is is a ploy to force OEM battery purchases. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use infirmware
Alan Browne wrote:
Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). So what's new? Fuji have been doing that - a little differently for years with the s5 Pro. That doesn't stop me using cheap Chinese batteries in it. I just have to reset a chip. No different than using knock-off inks in your Epson printer. Get a life Alan. Panasonic have as much right to make their cameras out of whatever they feel like as the company you worked for does to use proprietor gear in their radar - you can only get from them. Or is it different when it affects you personally? -- You don't stop laughing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop laughing! |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use in firmware
"Alan Browne" wrote in message
... On 20-06-09 16:48, Charles E Hardwidge wrote: "Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). Before screaming "boycott" like some 1970's shop steward you might like to consider that fake batteries could be a problem. As I use 3rd party batteries (at 1/3 the Sony price) and have had no issues, why not? Most of these 3rd party batteries, esp. Li-ion, have the protection circuit built in and this is stated on their product sheets. And that is what I checked (via the re-seller) when I bought them. All this is is a ploy to force OEM battery purchases. Sure, I accept there can be a forced OEM purchase angle as well as it being a way to head off iffy third-party sweatshop parts. Those are the extremes of control and greed, and you get it in the pharmaceutical, IT, and print industries. It's dumb but there you go. Personally, I'd favour third-party parts going through an independent and none discriminatory quality assurance process. Chips could help verify parts meet acceptable criterion and help push fake and potentially damaging parts off the board. Everyone's a winner. -- Charles E Hardwidge |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use in firmware
"daveFaktor" wrote in message
... Alan Browne wrote: Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). So what's new? Fuji have been doing that - a little differently for years with the s5 Pro. That doesn't stop me using cheap Chinese batteries in it. I just have to reset a chip. No different than using knock-off inks in your Epson printer. Get a life Alan. Panasonic have as much right to make their cameras out of whatever they feel like as the company you worked for does to use proprietor gear in their radar - you can only get from them. Or is it different when it affects you personally? Yeah, I wanted to make babies with this 10 tentacled alien that dropped down in my back garden last night but the DNA lock in was a bitch. Actually, one thing that does irritate me is the way manufacturers dick with stuff so an upgrade becomes a downgrade. Canon stripped all the manual features from their Ax000 range forcing new customers to buy S series cameras at twice the price. Bit naughty, that. It's going off topic but I plan on keeping my A590 IS forever even when I do jump for a mid-range or dSLR sometime. -- Charles E Hardwidge |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use infirmware
On 20-06-09 17:46, Charles E Hardwidge wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... On 20-06-09 16:48, Charles E Hardwidge wrote: "Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). Before screaming "boycott" like some 1970's shop steward you might like to consider that fake batteries could be a problem. As I use 3rd party batteries (at 1/3 the Sony price) and have had no issues, why not? Most of these 3rd party batteries, esp. Li-ion, have the protection circuit built in and this is stated on their product sheets. And that is what I checked (via the re-seller) when I bought them. All this is is a ploy to force OEM battery purchases. Sure, I accept there can be a forced OEM purchase angle as well as it being a way to head off iffy third-party sweatshop parts. Those are the extremes of control and greed, and you get it in the pharmaceutical, IT, and print industries. It's dumb but there you go. Personally, I'd favour third-party parts going through an independent and none discriminatory quality assurance process. Chips could help verify parts meet acceptable criterion and help push fake and potentially damaging parts off the board. Everyone's a winner. Which would drive up the price. There is no reason to be suspicious of suppliers who put up all their data and who have a good rep. I found a deal, looked up the supplier, spec, phoned the distributor and checked out the batts before buying. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use infirmware
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:34:57 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). I doubt Sony would worry themselves over such an issue - after all many of their cameras already require proprietary memory cards! |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use in firmware
"Alan Browne" wrote in message
... On 20-06-09 17:46, Charles E Hardwidge wrote: Personally, I'd favour third-party parts going through an independent and none discriminatory quality assurance process. Chips could help verify parts meet acceptable criterion and help push fake and potentially damaging parts off the board. Everyone's a winner. Which would drive up the price. There is no reason to be suspicious of suppliers who put up all their data and who have a good rep. I found a deal, looked up the supplier, spec, phoned the distributor and checked out the batts before buying. That's possible but fakes aren't cost free in terms of policing, employment conditions, preserving trade marks, and consumer safety. Fake car brake pads used to be a favourite. Now, I hear, memory on EBay is another. There's a big ding-dong over banking regulation in the UK. The generic arguments are similar. Loose regulation can work but it falls down when banks are run by shysters. Then, you have the knee-jerk problem of too much regulation which falls down when *sigh* banks are run by shysters. Quality and trust are important so, yes, I agree that credible specs and a good reputation are important. After last weeks fiasco, I'd like to see a bit more of that in the hardware calibration industry. Reviews seem based more on the colour of the box and what everyone else is doing rather than giving hard meaningful numbers for calibrator and software accuracy. This is tipping in to Zen (which I'm never more than half a step away from talking about) but I find the aims and values of Peter F Drucker and David Ogilvy on management and advertising, respectively, to be better than the bull**** and balls path many have gone down over the past few years. -- Charles E Hardwidge |
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Boycott Panasonic cameras - forced proprietary battery use in firmware
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:34:57 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: : Panasonic issues 'battery safety' firmware : : Panasonic has released firmware updates for its latest digital cameras : including the GH1, G1, ZS3 and TS1. The new firmware can identify : genuine Panasonic batteries and _prevents the use of any third party : battery packs_. The company says it has taken this move to ensure safety : of its users against possible injuries because of overcharging, internal : heating or short circuit in third-party batteries. : : http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09...vicenotice.asp : : What a BS ploy. (And I hope this does not occur to Sony). Surely you jest. Sony is the company that once sneaked operating system changes into users' computers to prevent them from "stealing" content from Sony CDs. A few years ago laptop batteries sold by Dell and several other manufacturers started exploding and starting fires. Some of the manufacturers had to issue recalls. Who actually made the offending batteries for those manufacturers? Sony. I think it's fair to say that if there's a way to make an extra buck, it has already occurred to Sony. Bob |
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