I brought some 35mm film into a local camera store and ...

While there I checked out the used 35mm cameras for sale.
Many beautiful Canon EOS, Nikons and others from the 1980s
and 1990s for sale - cheap! Many of these cameras have some
things in common like auto advance, auto rewind, LCD displays,
etc. - and a limited life span - where the camera will die
shortly after parts are no longer available to repair them.
Invariably, the camera will die when it contains exposed
film, and a black bag or dark room is required to remove the
film.
Call me old fashioned, but some of those old manual advance,
manual rewind (in my case Canon A1s) cameras will still be
functioning long after I go to ... wherever.
:-)
Dick

dickr2 wrote,on my timestamp of 30/07/2010 3:42 AM:

and 1990s for sale - cheap! Many of these cameras have some
things in common like auto advance, auto rewind, LCD displays,
etc. - and a limited life span - where the camera will die
shortly after parts are no longer available to repair them.

Incredible how similar they are to dslrs, eh?

Invariably, the camera will die when it contains exposed
film, and a black bag or dark room is required to remove the
film.

Or a closet at home... And if you're into film, invariably you'll have access
to either a change bag or a closet...

Call me old fashioned, but some of those old manual advance,
manual rewind (in my case Canon A1s) cameras will still be
functioning long after I go to ... wherever.
:-)

Aw, you're such a pessimist...
(FM3A here, and loving it more and more) :-)

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Noons wrote:

dickr2 wrote,on my timestamp of 30/07/2010 3:42 AM:

and 1990s for sale - cheap! Many of these cameras have some
things in common like auto advance, auto rewind, LCD displays,
etc. - and a limited life span - where the camera will die
shortly after parts are no longer available to repair them.

Incredible how similar they are to dslrs, eh?

Invariably, the camera will die when it contains exposed
film, and a black bag or dark room is required to remove the
film.

Or a closet at home... And if you're into film, invariably you'll have
access
to either a change bag or a closet...

Call me old fashioned, but some of those old manual advance,
manual rewind (in my case Canon A1s) cameras will still be
functioning long after I go to ... wherever.
:-)

Aw, you're such a pessimist...
(FM3A here, and loving it more and more) :-)

Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

Shiva Das wrote:

Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

Don't worry cost of film and finding a way to get it processed
will compensate for the cost.

I have a Canon EOS that has had one roll of film through it in the
last eight years. The last half dozen rolls of film have been
collecting frost for as long. One of it's lens does find some time
a Canon 350D.

w..

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Walter Banks wrote:

Shiva Das wrote:

Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

Don't worry cost of film and finding a way to get it processed
will compensate for the cost.

I have a Canon EOS that has had one roll of film through it in the
last eight years. The last half dozen rolls of film have been
collecting frost for as long. One of it's lens does find some time
a Canon 350D.

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Speak for yourself, please. I have been using film since 1969 and am not
about to stop. Just because _you_ have six rolls of film in long-term
storage doesn't mean _I_ don't run through my stock within a week of
purchasing it.

It always amazes me that for the most part photographers who use film
rarely tell those who don't that they _should_. The flip side being that
those who _don't_ use film spend an inordinate amount of time trying to
convince those who _do_ that they _shouldn't_.

Saving you the usual arguments: I shoot film because I _want_ to.

Shiva Das wrote:

In article ,
Walter Banks wrote:

Shiva Das wrote:

Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

Don't worry cost of film and finding a way to get it processed
will compensate for the cost.

I have a Canon EOS that has had one roll of film through it in the
last eight years. The last half dozen rolls of film have been
collecting frost for as long. One of it's lens does find some time
on a Canon 350D.


Speak for yourself, please. I have been using film since 1969 and am not
about to stop. Just because _you_ have six rolls of film in long-term
storage doesn't mean _I_ don't run through my stock within a week of
purchasing it.

It always amazes me that for the most part photographers who use film
rarely tell those who don't that they _should_. The flip side being that
those who _don't_ use film spend an inordinate amount of time trying to
convince those who _do_ that they _shouldn't_.

Saving you the usual arguments: I shoot film because I _want_ to.

Some of my best friends regularly shot film at one time..

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Shiva Das wrote:
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Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

Hi,
But doesn't the R6 use a battery for the meter? I suppose if the meter
battery dies one would have to use the "sunny 16 rule", although I can't
quite remember what that rule was I used it with an old Argus 35 MM
camera many, many, many years ago.
:-)
Dick

Walter Banks wrote:

Shiva Das wrote:
Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

Don't worry cost of film and finding a way to get it processed
will compensate for the cost.

Cost of film? I buy it bulk by the metre & roll my own.

Finding a way to get it developed? Just load it into a tank in my
bathroom and develop it.

If *you* can't find an inexpensive & convinient way of doing things
doesn't mean that it's impossible...

On 7/31/2010 11:05 AM dickr2 spake thus:

Shiva Das wrote:

snip

Leica R6 -- no battery, no problem. Also cheap as dirt these days, as
are the lenses.

But doesn't the R6 use a battery for the meter? I suppose if the meter
battery dies one would have to use the "sunny 16 rule", although I can't
quite remember what that rule was I used it with an old Argus 35 MM
camera many, many, many years ago.

"Sunny 16": exposure = f/16 at a shutter speed of 1/[ISO speed of film]
(e.g., 1/100 for Tmax 100).


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David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 7/31/2010 11:05 AM dickr2 spake thus:
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"Sunny 16": exposure = f/16 at a shutter speed of 1/[ISO speed of film]
(e.g., 1/100 for Tmax 100).

Hey David,
You got my memory cells working when you mentioned T-max film.
Way back in the early 1970s a friend and I attended a photo class
that lasted for several weeks at a local VoTech. We were issued
a roll of T-Max 400 each week and when returning the film, we
received a contact sheet and all the negatives. I still have the
contact sheets, negatives and some prints I had processed. I still
remember one of the final classes when the instructor said
"take some photos in the classroom". We said "Huh?" and then we
proceeded to take available light photos of the instructor and fellow
classmates. Yes, I took a few shots of some very attracive young
ladies, and I suppose they're grandmothers by now.
Ah, memories.
Dick