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Sunday at Laguna Seca
On 2010-08-23 13:48:06 -0700, "Frank ess" said:
Savageduck wrote: On 2010-08-23 11:36:49 -0700, "Frank ess" said: and for some reason the Mini looks to me like an Austin-Healey 3000 when first spotted head-on at a distance. You mix up a Mini and an A-H 3000 head-on? Ayuh. http://www.fototime.com/6C52FB892D1072C/orig.gif Oh! You mean one of those fake BMW mini's? There are just some classic shapes which are unmistakable, and all Austin-Healey's fall in that category. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/_DNC3909w.jpg -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
Savageduck wrote: On 2010-08-23 13:48:06 -0700, "Frank ess" said: Savageduck wrote: On 2010-08-23 11:36:49 -0700, "Frank ess" said: and for some reason the Mini looks to me like an Austin-Healey 3000 when first spotted head-on at a distance. You mix up a Mini and an A-H 3000 head-on? Ayuh. http://www.fototime.com/6C52FB892D1072C/orig.gif Oh! You mean one of those fake BMW mini's? Ayuh. If I'd meant Austin or Morris Mini, I'd have said so. There are just some classic shapes which are unmistakable, and all Austin-Healey's fall in that category. http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/_DNC3909w.jpg It's a beauty, a 100S. One of my first sporty-car loves. I eventually had a 100 BN1 that I made go fast, then a 3000 "4-seat" Standard for a family car, and a bit later, a '59 Sprite. All delightful cars in their different ways, and as you say, maybe the best-suited shape for its purpose, ever. The only other I've owned that was shaped lovely-ish and functional was the '66 Lotus Elan. I guess Mazda agreed, as they pretty much copied it for the MX-5, and look how long that has been the object of automotive affections. -- Frank ess |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
"Alan Browne" wrote in message
... On 10-08-19 9:18 , Peter wrote: "Alan Browne" wrote in message ... The only rental co. I really avoid if I can is Alamo. They usually have their lots way, way, way off the large airports. On one rental occasion I had to return three different cans, because of mechanical defects. the third was because the brakes failed. IMHO all rental companies suck in that they have no realistic provision for roadside assistance. We were on a vacation and the rented Prius wouldn't lock. It took 45 minutes of listening to how important I was to them, before they told me to bring it to their nearest location, about an hour away. I simply told them: the location of the car for the night; it was their car' and I would not be responsible if it got stolen. Given the hundreds of cars I've rented over the years I cannot at all fault Hertz or Budget in any instance. The few times there has been something wrong (including me locking keys in the car in LA) I have had on site help within an hour. Once I dropped a car at a different location because of a bad vibration and I had a second car and out the lot within 5 minutes of pulling in. Returning a car for exchange has never been an issue. You have been lucky with on site help. On the lighter side: Several years ago, pre 9/11, I returned a rental to an off site location in Puerto Rico. I did not want to unload a car full of luggage and people and put all on a bus. I was also very close on the flight. They very graciously allowed me to return the car to the airport and had someone follow me to drive the rental back. Only problem, they sent one guy in one car. When I last looked this guy was scratching his head in bewilderment, trying to figure out how he was going to drive two cars back. -- Peter |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
"Paul Furman" wrote in message ... Charles E Hardwidge wrote: "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... I remember how I loved the "E" type Jag back in the 50's I couldn't wait until I started working and had some cash to buy one....By the time I did, Jaguar had stopped making them....did they stop making the huge upside down bathtubs that the American manufacturers were making? Hell no they didn't!! They dropped the only beautiful thing they had left.....The XKE! Whatever disease that all the American car manufacturers had caught had traveled across the Atlantic and infected the British car makers...... There was a burst of management types trying to emulate modern America around that time and it percolated into city planning as well. The problem is it wasn't thought through or followed through properly. Big fail all round. My guess is cars got snarled up in that wave as well. Not sure what era you are talking about exactly but the recent decade's Jaguars look incredibly astoundingly bland! Ditto for most Mercedes. Yeah.....I think Ford bought out Jaguar, so what can one expect? But all cars look alike to me....At least all the ones that sell for under $30K. And there really isn't any excuse for it except poor taste of the public. It would be very easy to put one of those wonderful bodies from the twenties or thirties on a modern "safe" chassis. |
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"Frank ess" wrote in message ... Paul Furman wrote: Charles E Hardwidge wrote: "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... I remember how I loved the "E" type Jag back in the 50's I couldn't wait until I started working and had some cash to buy one....By the time I did, Jaguar had stopped making them....did they stop making the huge upside down bathtubs that the American manufacturers were making? Hell no they didn't!! They dropped the only beautiful thing they had left.....The XKE! Whatever disease that all the American car manufacturers had caught had traveled across the Atlantic and infected the British car makers...... There was a burst of management types trying to emulate modern America around that time and it percolated into city planning as well. The problem is it wasn't thought through or followed through properly. Big fail all round. My guess is cars got snarled up in that wave as well. Not sure what era you are talking about exactly but the recent decade's Jaguars look incredibly astoundingly bland! Ditto for most Mercedes. Seems to me the E-type was a 1960s car. There were some real bloopers in the 1950s and 60s, all over the world. Some 1970s and 80s cars were pretty good. I'm not very excited about many cars since then. Remember when we were kids and could recognize and call out the make and model of every car on the road? Design choices having to do with weight, wind resistance, and fear of making an ugly mistake have resulted in cars that are essentially indistinguishable, one brand from another. There is enough about the Forduars to recognize them sometimes, and for some reason the Mini looks to me like an Austin-Healey 3000 when first spotted head-on at a distance. Otherwise, plenty of newly introduced cars - last three or four years, anyway - seem to be designed to appeal to cartoon-watchers. Look at the high beltlines and pillbox windows on Magnums, Camaros, and Challengers. Ick. -- Frank ess There isn't a modern car on the road that is as pretty as my '59 MG "A". And it was one of the cheapest cars in its class at the time. Of course, it was a two seater, which admittedly isn't very practical. but it sure was better looking than the two seaters Ford has put out during the last ten years..... |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
"Bill Graham" wrote in message
... Yeah.....I think Ford bought out Jaguar, so what can one expect? But all cars look alike to me....At least all the ones that sell for under $30K. And there really isn't any excuse for it except poor taste of the public. It would be very easy to put one of those wonderful bodies from the twenties or thirties on a modern "safe" chassis. It's just a fact that Hollywoodisation leads to a homogenised paste. Movies? Industry? Politics? Same deal. That's why Gore Vidal sneeringly dismissed the "centre" as the "dead centre". This is true but only to a point. Eastern philosophies including Zen Buddhism suggest that "everything flows from the centre". When you get the basic idea of form, attitude, and growth in these terms the "centre" stops being dead and comes alive. You can test this universal premise by yourself simply by taking a photograph and reflecting on these three elements. This can require "letting go" as previous ideas, sentiments, and impatience get in the way. -- Charles E Hardwidge |
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"Charles E Hardwidge" wrote in message ... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... Yeah.....I think Ford bought out Jaguar, so what can one expect? But all cars look alike to me....At least all the ones that sell for under $30K. And there really isn't any excuse for it except poor taste of the public. It would be very easy to put one of those wonderful bodies from the twenties or thirties on a modern "safe" chassis. It's just a fact that Hollywoodisation leads to a homogenised paste. Movies? Industry? Politics? Same deal. That's why Gore Vidal sneeringly dismissed the "centre" as the "dead centre". This is true but only to a point. Eastern philosophies including Zen Buddhism suggest that "everything flows from the centre". When you get the basic idea of form, attitude, and growth in these terms the "centre" stops being dead and comes alive. You can test this universal premise by yourself simply by taking a photograph and reflecting on these three elements. This can require "letting go" as previous ideas, sentiments, and impatience get in the way. I wonder how the same concept applies to music.....I find the modern popular music deplorable......No melody.....Just repetitious beat & harmony until it drives me to distraction....I think we (the whole world) is going through a period of artistic death......Kind of a "dark ages" where there is no artistic inspiration or development. I wonder how long we will remain here before there is a "breakthrough", and an "age of enlightenment"........ |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
On 2010-08-23 17:39:42 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:
"Charles E Hardwidge" wrote in message ... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... Yeah.....I think Ford bought out Jaguar, so what can one expect? But all cars look alike to me....At least all the ones that sell for under $30K. And there really isn't any excuse for it except poor taste of the public. It would be very easy to put one of those wonderful bodies from the twenties or thirties on a modern "safe" chassis. It's just a fact that Hollywoodisation leads to a homogenised paste. Movies? Industry? Politics? Same deal. That's why Gore Vidal sneeringly dismissed the "centre" as the "dead centre". This is true but only to a point. Eastern philosophies including Zen Buddhism suggest that "everything flows from the centre". When you get the basic idea of form, attitude, and growth in these terms the "centre" stops being dead and comes alive. You can test this universal premise by yourself simply by taking a photograph and reflecting on these three elements. This can require "letting go" as previous ideas, sentiments, and impatience get in the way. I wonder how the same concept applies to music.....I find the modern popular music deplorable......No melody.....Just repetitious beat & harmony until it drives me to distraction....I think we (the whole world) is going through a period of artistic death......Kind of a "dark ages" where there is no artistic inspiration or development. I wonder how long we will remain here before there is a "breakthrough", and an "age of enlightenment"........ Here you go Bill. This is a young guitarist, Joscho Stephan, who would put Django Reinhardt to shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfj10h87CrY -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
"Savageduck" wrote in message news:2010082317435142612-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom... On 2010-08-23 17:39:42 -0700, "Bill Graham" said: "Charles E Hardwidge" wrote in message ... "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... Yeah.....I think Ford bought out Jaguar, so what can one expect? But all cars look alike to me....At least all the ones that sell for under $30K. And there really isn't any excuse for it except poor taste of the public. It would be very easy to put one of those wonderful bodies from the twenties or thirties on a modern "safe" chassis. It's just a fact that Hollywoodisation leads to a homogenised paste. Movies? Industry? Politics? Same deal. That's why Gore Vidal sneeringly dismissed the "centre" as the "dead centre". This is true but only to a point. Eastern philosophies including Zen Buddhism suggest that "everything flows from the centre". When you get the basic idea of form, attitude, and growth in these terms the "centre" stops being dead and comes alive. You can test this universal premise by yourself simply by taking a photograph and reflecting on these three elements. This can require "letting go" as previous ideas, sentiments, and impatience get in the way. I wonder how the same concept applies to music.....I find the modern popular music deplorable......No melody.....Just repetitious beat & harmony until it drives me to distraction....I think we (the whole world) is going through a period of artistic death......Kind of a "dark ages" where there is no artistic inspiration or development. I wonder how long we will remain here before there is a "breakthrough", and an "age of enlightenment"........ Here you go Bill. This is a young guitarist, Joscho Stephan, who would put Django Reinhardt to shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfj10h87CrY Yeah.....That guy is fabulous....Makes me wish I had stuck with the guitar.....Trouble is, I would never have gotten that good in a million years.... |
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Sunday at Laguna Seca
Frank ess wrote:
Paul Furman wrote: Charles E Hardwidge wrote: "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... I remember how I loved the "E" type Jag back in the 50's I couldn't wait until I started working and had some cash to buy one....By the time I did, Jaguar had stopped making them....did they stop making the huge upside down bathtubs that the American manufacturers were making? Hell no they didn't!! They dropped the only beautiful thing they had left.....The XKE! Whatever disease that all the American car manufacturers had caught had traveled across the Atlantic and infected the British car makers...... There was a burst of management types trying to emulate modern America around that time and it percolated into city planning as well. The problem is it wasn't thought through or followed through properly. Big fail all round. My guess is cars got snarled up in that wave as well. Not sure what era you are talking about exactly but the recent decade's Jaguars look incredibly astoundingly bland! Ditto for most Mercedes. Seems to me the E-type was a 1960s car. There were some real bloopers in the 1950s and 60s, all over the world. Some 1970s and 80s cars were pretty good. I'm not very excited about many cars since then. Remember when we were kids and could recognize and call out the make and model of every car on the road? Design choices having to do with weight, wind resistance, and fear of making an ugly mistake have resulted in cars that are essentially indistinguishable, one brand from another. There is enough about the Forduars to recognize them sometimes, and for some reason the Mini looks to me like an Austin-Healey 3000 when first spotted head-on at a distance. Otherwise, plenty of newly introduced cars - last three or four years, anyway - seem to be designed to appeal to cartoon-watchers. Look at the high beltlines and pillbox windows on Magnums, Camaros, and Challengers. Ick. As a kid, I drooled for a Mercedes SL roadster: http://www.netcarshow.com/mercedes-b...llpaper_01.htm That one was made the year I was born - well maybe I was more into a WWII Willys Jeep but that Mercedes has always been on my drool list... I got to ride in the back of a red one like that once when I was little enough to fit. By the 80's... blech! |
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