Jump at EOS 5D or wait?

Regarding the current and enticing Canon rebates, does it make sense to get
a 5D now ($600 off with another item purchased) or wait until later in the
year for either another round of rebates or a successor to the 5D. It
rarely seems to be a clear win-win with these deals. The 5D has been out a
while and will likely be superceded before long (although I'm sure there
won't be any real leads on this news until just after the rebate expires..).
I can wait, but if another model doesn't come out this year, I lose.

The 30D is rated higher at it's own price point, but I need a 5D-level
camera.

Thanks.

"Donald Specker" wrote in message
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Regarding the current and enticing Canon rebates, does it make sense to
get a 5D now ($600 off with another item purchased) or wait until later in
the year for either another round of rebates or a successor to the 5D. It
rarely seems to be a clear win-win with these deals. The 5D has been out
a while and will likely be superceded before long (although I'm sure there
won't be any real leads on this news until just after the rebate
expires..). I can wait, but if another model doesn't come out this year, I
lose.

The 30D is rated higher at it's own price point, but I need a 5D-level
camera.
Well, if you _need_ a 5D level camera, and since the 5D is the only "5D
level camera", then wouldn't it make sense to buy one sooner rather than
later?

Thanks.

Donald Specker wrote:
Regarding the current and enticing Canon rebates, does it make sense
to get a 5D now ($600 off with another item purchased) or wait until
later in the year for either another round of rebates or a successor
to the 5D. It rarely seems to be a clear win-win with these deals. The 5D
has been out a while and will likely be superceded before long
(although I'm sure there won't be any real leads on this news until
just after the rebate expires..). I can wait, but if another model
doesn't come out this year, I lose.
The 30D is rated higher at it's own price point, but I need a 5D-level
camera.

Thanks.

If you can wait until the end of February, you might find an even better
deal, since many believe there's an updated version coming with the big
show...

I didn't wait long for my 5D, and have loved every minute I've spent using
it for the last 9 months or so. You won't be disappointed.

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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:52:39 GMT, "Donald Specker"
wrote:

Regarding the current and enticing Canon rebates, does it make sense to get
a 5D now ($600 off with another item purchased) or wait until later in the
year for either another round of rebates or a successor to the 5D. It
rarely seems to be a clear win-win with these deals. The 5D has been out a
while and will likely be superceded before long (although I'm sure there
won't be any real leads on this news until just after the rebate expires..).
I can wait, but if another model doesn't come out this year, I lose.

The 30D is rated higher at it's own price point, but I need a 5D-level
camera.


I suggest that you should wait until March or April.

Canon is due to announce an EOS 3D with 16.8MP and full weather
sealing and an EOS 1Ds MkIII with something over 22MP. The 5D will
continue, possibly with detail improvements, but at a significantly
lower price point.

However, if you need a camera now, buy the 5D, and take advantage of
the current rebates.

Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
Graham Fountain wrote:

Well, if you _need_ a 5D level camera, and since the 5D is the only
"5D level camera", then wouldn't it make sense to buy one sooner
rather than later?


Especially if he has some legendary Nikon glass.

We are really getting tired of your standard answer.

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On Jan 28, 12:52 pm, "Donald Specker"
wrote:
Regarding the current and enticing Canon rebates, does it make sense to get
a 5D now ($600 off with another item purchased) or wait until later in the
year for either another round of rebates or a successor to the 5D...

It depends on how long you can wait. The 5D has a good reputation and
history, and while
it's likely prices will go down with the introduction of a new 3D, the
5D will continue for awhile
as it has no real competition in the market and has good sales record.
I can only add my
personal experience with the same decision and added my experience at:

http://www.wsrphoto.com/c5dbloglist.html

I don't regret getting one ahead of any new model. You can't go wrong
and miss the time
having and using a good camera. Good luck.

That_Rich wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:17:25 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
Graham Fountain wrote:

Well, if you _need_ a 5D level camera, and since the 5D is the only
"5D level camera", then wouldn't it make sense to buy one sooner
rather than later?


Especially if he has some legendary Nikon glass.

We are really getting tired of your standard answer.

Who the hell is "we"?

I am growing tired of many things on this group... Rita is not one of
them.

My two cents.

And highly over-priced, at that.


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That_Rich wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:42:41 -0800, "Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even
number wrote:

That_Rich wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:17:25 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:
Graham Fountain wrote:

Well, if you _need_ a 5D level camera, and since the 5D is the
only "5D level camera", then wouldn't it make sense to buy one
sooner rather than later?


Especially if he has some legendary Nikon glass.

We are really getting tired of your standard answer.

Who the hell is "we"?

I am growing tired of many things on this group... Rita is not one
of them.

My two cents.

And highly over-priced, at that.


So.... I guess _YOU_ are we?

Oui,

Nope...I'm just a guy who knows an over-priced mouth when I hear one.


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"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
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: Especially if he has some legendary Nikon glass.
:
: We are really getting tired of your standard answer.
:
: Who the hell is "we"?
:
: I am growing tired of many things on this group... Rita is not one
: of them.
:
: My two cents.
:
: And highly over-priced, at that.
:
:
: So.... I guess _YOU_ are we?
:
: Oui,
:
: Nope...I'm just a guy who knows an over-priced mouth when I hear one.
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You really don't know **** from clay, Morgan... Must be hard when you need
to sit down in a clay basin!

Douglas

"wsrphoto" wrote in message
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: On Jan 28, 12:52 pm, "Donald Specker"
: wrote:
: Regarding the current and enticing Canon rebates, does it make sense to
get
: a 5D now ($600 off with another item purchased) or wait until later in
the
: year for either another round of rebates or a successor to the 5D...
:
: It depends on how long you can wait. The 5D has a good reputation and
: history, and while
: it's likely prices will go down with the introduction of a new 3D, the
: 5D will continue for awhile
: as it has no real competition in the market and has good sales record.
: I can only add my
: personal experience with the same decision and added my experience at:
:
: http://www.wsrphoto.com/c5dbloglist.html
:
: I don't regret getting one ahead of any new model. You can't go wrong
: and miss the time
: having and using a good camera. Good luck.
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The real issue you need to be wary of is that Canon do not consider the 5D a
Professional camera. All it has over a 30D is a FF sensor and maybe a few
extra frames in a continuous run. The more I use mine, the less it matters.
Now that alternative lens makers have hit the target with their glass, APS
size sensors are looking more viable than ever.

If the 3D is considered a Professional camera (unlikely) and comes with some
decent build quality like enviro sealing (just as unlikely if it is to be a
consumer camera) waiting might be a bad idea. There is not much I do with a
5D that I cannot do just as well with a 20D.

The 30D (which I don't have) appears to overcome the two issue I have with
the 20D of screen size and spot metering. These would make one even closer
to a 5D in performance. The 1Ds is a sports Photographer's camera. Unless
you really need the features it has which are dedicated to capturing fast
action, it doesn't make sense to me to fork out that kind of loot over and
above a 30D. Shutter life of consumer DSLRs is only about 60% of a
Professional camera too so if you intend to use a 5D's continuous shoot
capabilities, you ought to factor in the cost of a new shutter assembly
every year or two.

Plenty of lenses around now to overcome the APS sensor limitation in wide
shots. http://www.photosbydouglas.com/fun/tamron-11-18.jpg enough noise
lowering software is around now to make the noise in a 20/30D image a
non-issue too. Plenty of people say they "need" the features of a 5D but no
one has really stated precisely what of those features they "need" as
opposed to want so the community could address those features in comparison.
This is something that needs to be done. I doubt, given the differences
between the APS and FF sensor cameras from Canon, many people actually do
"Need" the features of a 5D. Using a whiteout pen to replace the numbers is
one option for such people!
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