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Kibo informs me that Alan Browne
stated that:

John McWilliams wrote:

E-mail address harvesting, while not entirely a thing of the past, is
way overrated as a "danger' on usenet.

I created a throwaway address a few weeks ago. It's receiveing
some spam already. The harvesting continues, releases of lists
come in waves.

Addresses are harvested from pretty much everywhere, these days. I can
live with having to filter the hell out on any address that's appeared
on Usenet, & except that I'll sometimes miss a legit email. The thing
that really annoys me is spam to my domain role account addresses
that've been illegally trawled from the domain registry databases.
Filtering them is both difficult & risky, because it's rare to get legit
email to those accounts, but when you do, it's likely to be both time
critical & of major importance.
Oh, & I find that the lag between exposing an email address to Usenet &
getting spam in the account is roughly two weeks.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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Kibo informs me that Alan Browne
stated that:

John McWilliams wrote:

E-mail address harvesting, while not entirely a thing of the past, is
way overrated as a "danger' on usenet.

I created a throwaway address a few weeks ago. It's receiveing
some spam already. The harvesting continues, releases of lists
come in waves.

Addresses are harvested from pretty much everywhere, these days. I can
live with having to filter the hell out on any address that's appeared
on Usenet, & except that I'll sometimes miss a legit email. The thing
that really annoys me is spam to my domain role account addresses
that've been illegally trawled from the domain registry databases.
Filtering them is both difficult & risky, because it's rare to get legit
email to those accounts, but when you do, it's likely to be both time
critical & of major importance.
Oh, & I find that the lag between exposing an email address to Usenet &
getting spam in the account is roughly two weeks.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Kibo informs me that John McWilliams stated that:

There's a guy or two who are trying to cyber-terrorize the process,
either because they aren't getting their way, they are too inarticulate
to do anything else, or they fear change.

It'll be interesting to see who steps up to counter this type of
blackmail/terrorist tactic.

It's happening right now. If you're not seeing it, you're probably just
not reading the appropriate groups.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Kibo informs me that John McWilliams stated that:

There's a guy or two who are trying to cyber-terrorize the process,
either because they aren't getting their way, they are too inarticulate
to do anything else, or they fear change.

It'll be interesting to see who steps up to counter this type of
blackmail/terrorist tactic.

It's happening right now. If you're not seeing it, you're probably just
not reading the appropriate groups.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Richard Cockburn writes:

Alan Browne wrote in
:

Thanks for that link Lionel... I didn't have the original.

Ditto. I don't see anything forbidding the SI in there.

And there's general language that clearly, to me, includes it.

Hey David Dyer-Bennet, damn, you've been around for a long time, dude. I
see that you voted for most of the groups in that proposal. I also see that
they posted all the e-mail addresses without any protection from spammers
back then.

Yep. And I post my email addresses in my messages today, and on my
website, too. Spam is annoying, but nowhere near destroying the
utility of email for me.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

Richard Cockburn writes:

Alan Browne wrote in
:

Thanks for that link Lionel... I didn't have the original.

Ditto. I don't see anything forbidding the SI in there.

And there's general language that clearly, to me, includes it.

Hey David Dyer-Bennet, damn, you've been around for a long time, dude. I
see that you voted for most of the groups in that proposal. I also see that
they posted all the e-mail addresses without any protection from spammers
back then.

Yep. And I post my email addresses in my messages today, and on my
website, too. Spam is annoying, but nowhere near destroying the
utility of email for me.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

Richard Cockburn writes:

Alan Browne wrote in
:

Thanks for that link Lionel... I didn't have the original.

Ditto. I don't see anything forbidding the SI in there.

And there's general language that clearly, to me, includes it.

Hey David Dyer-Bennet, damn, you've been around for a long time, dude. I
see that you voted for most of the groups in that proposal. I also see that
they posted all the e-mail addresses without any protection from spammers
back then.

Yep. And I post my email addresses in my messages today, and on my
website, too. Spam is annoying, but nowhere near destroying the
utility of email for me.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/

Lionel wrote:
Kibo informs me that John McWilliams stated that:


There's a guy or two who are trying to cyber-terrorize the process,
either because they aren't getting their way, they are too inarticulate
to do anything else, or they fear change.

It'll be interesting to see who steps up to counter this type of
blackmail/terrorist tactic.


It's happening right now. If you're not seeing it, you're probably just
not reading the appropriate groups.

No question about the latter!

But I was referring to the time when the rubber meets the road to coin a
phrase, when the voting takes place, that is. However, one would be hard
pressed to divine that based on what I posted......


--
John McWilliams

I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm
not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

Lionel wrote:
Kibo informs me that John McWilliams stated that:


There's a guy or two who are trying to cyber-terrorize the process,
either because they aren't getting their way, they are too inarticulate
to do anything else, or they fear change.

It'll be interesting to see who steps up to counter this type of
blackmail/terrorist tactic.


It's happening right now. If you're not seeing it, you're probably just
not reading the appropriate groups.

No question about the latter!

But I was referring to the time when the rubber meets the road to coin a
phrase, when the voting takes place, that is. However, one would be hard
pressed to divine that based on what I posted......


--
John McWilliams

I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm
not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

Kibo informs me that John McWilliams stated that:

But I was referring to the time when the rubber meets the road to coin a
phrase, when the voting takes place, that is. However, one would be hard
pressed to divine that based on what I posted......

Oh, I see. Well, most likely it'll be dealt with afterwards, by
identifying the fake votes & the people posting them.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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