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Old October 1st 04, 08:38 PM
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I believe Kodak Portra is the latest version of the film you are
describing. It comes in different versions. The one I will be using
should be "reduced contrast". I hope that will solve the white and
black issue. I am planning to use ISO 400 or 800 so I can hand hold
the camera and us a fast enough shutter speed to eliminate camera
shake. The posed shots will be done with studio lights; two 600ws
Powerlights and an 1200 power pack with 2 heads. Again that should
take care of camera shake. I might even take my boom arm to use for
highlights. I have used this same equipment with 35mm. I had a
couple poster size enlargements made that the recipient loved. A
photographer might not have loved them but the subject did. Hanging
on a wall in a large room they were fine. I also tend to use a soft
focus filter. That seems to help.

I am an amateur and guest at the wedding with some professional
equipment and a little knowledge doing a favor for two friends. I
would never agree to do a wedding for money.

"Jeremy" wrote in message nk.net...
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As I said they want to do the "posed" shots before the ceremony
because they will not have time between the ceremony and reception.


If you lack experience and proper equipment, it will probably show up more
on the posed shots than on the candids. People are going to have a certain
level of expectation on those formal shots, which they would not have on
candids.

If your photos are intended for enlargement, I would try to do as much work
as possible using a tripod. That may be a bit clumsy, but you have to work
to closer tolerances in 35mm. Any camera shake will show up when the photos
are blown up, and the lab can't help you because it cannot be corrected.

I haven't shot a wedding in 30 years, so I can't give you current film
recommendations. I used Vericolor back then, because it was a low contrast
film, with excellent flesh tones. You want to use a low contrast emulsion
so that the detail in the bride's dress and the groom's tux is visible. If
you were to use a typical consumer emulsion, you run the risk that the dress
is displayed as one big blob of "white," and the tux is all black--and there
is nothing worse than blown-out highlights in wedding photos.






I
found a "pro pack" of Porta 160NC 135-8 (10 rolls). Since they are
not looking for the numerous shots a real wedding photographer would
take, I was thinking I would use a couple of those rolls for the posed
shots with studio lights before the ceremony and for the shots coming
down the aisle with my flash. Then I could load a roll of ISO 400 or
800 for the ceremony. I could use another roll of 135-8 for when they
start out of the church. Then I would use a roll of 160NC or Reala (I
have had good luck with Reala) for the reception. When I last talked
with the bride, she only told me about a handful of shots she actually
wanted so I think this will more than cover it without spending a huge
amount of money on film. It also means that I can still be a "guest"
for some of the time!

The processing will be done by a professional lab
http://www.profilmet.com/.

Does this sound like a workable plan?

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Old October 1st 04, 11:22 PM
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hba1c, à écrit :
They know to take what the get since I am not a professional. Without
me, they will not have much of anything so...


You'r choice is good ! I have very liked the Reala for portrait
photography. You can also try the NPH 400, it's a very good film.

You do not want to try b&w ?!

http://www.monochromatique.com/portrait/

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Old October 1st 04, 11:22 PM
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hba1c, à écrit :
They know to take what the get since I am not a professional. Without
me, they will not have much of anything so...


You'r choice is good ! I have very liked the Reala for portrait
photography. You can also try the NPH 400, it's a very good film.

You do not want to try b&w ?!

http://www.monochromatique.com/portrait/

Regards

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Old October 2nd 04, 04:44 AM
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NPS, either one, but all from the same batch and w/ the same flash. No lab
is going to correct each frame. You could wind up w/ a lot of good shots
rejected "cause of the color cast on a few. Bob Hickey


What does "Individually video analyzed" mean when I see "Film
Processing / Proofing" on a list of service? I have only sent my
films to labs that provided that service.
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Old October 2nd 04, 08:44 AM
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Two of my friends are getting married. They don't have the funds to
hire a photographer so they were just going to put disposable cameras
around and use those photos. They asked me to take a few shots. By
chance I have studio equipment (Photogenic PowerLights®, Photogenic
PhotoMaster). I was planning to take some posed shots with my studio
lights before the ceremony. The want a shot coming down the aisle and
just two or three during the ceremony. I can use flash when the are
coming down the aisle but not during the ceremony. I don't know what
the lighting situation is in the church.

I was planning on taking Portra 100NC for the posed shots, coming down
the aisle, and some candid shots at the reception. I was thinking
Portra 400NC or Porta 800 for during the ceremony. I was also
thinking a roll of Reala.

They know to take what the get since I am not a professional. Without
me, they will not have much of anything so...

I will be traveling 250 miles the day before and I may not have access
to refrigeration. Any thoughts?


refrigeration is not that critical, do you think they ship it across the
country through deserts and the plains in refrigerated trucks? I think not.

so, what kind of paper does your lab run? A lot of folks would reply it
shouldn't make that much difference, which is my reply to the question of
film, it does astonish me that of all the concerns about shooting the
wedding, the first and only question asked is, what film?

do a google groups search on my name as there are lots of posts on how to
shoot weddings


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Old October 2nd 04, 01:54 PM
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In article , Marc 182
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1. Don't do it.


An option. Leaves the couple with snaps taken with disposable plastic
cameras scattered around. Do you really think that's a better result
than what an interested and alert amateur can produce with a good 35mm?


OK, screw it up and make enemies for life.

2. Use medium format.


Not an option. They don't have the money to pay for that. Sometimes
people just can't afford your snobbery.


It's not snobbery, but then you amateurs just wouldn't understand.

I wish they would take safety warning labels off of things and allow
the idiots of the world to kill themselves.
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Old October 2nd 04, 02:05 PM
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Means the lab uses a device that allows them to see
the image as a positive image before printing. All color
and contrast adjustment is done, similar to how
you would do it in Photoshop. End result still depends
on the operators perception and how closely they
are paying attention. Perhaps no better or worse than
a good mini lab were someone actually cares.


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NPS, either one, but all from the same batch and w/ the same flash. No lab
is going to correct each frame. You could wind up w/ a lot of good shots
rejected "cause of the color cast on a few. Bob Hickey


What does "Individually video analyzed" mean when I see "Film
Processing / Proofing" on a list of service? I have only sent my
films to labs that provided that service.


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Old October 2nd 04, 04:30 PM
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hba1c wrote:
I appreciate your advice! As I said I don't do this very often. The
church is 250 miles from my home so I will not see it until the day of
the event or maybe the night before. I am just going to have to use
the ISO 400 or 800 whichever will work.


Maybe grab a roll of Ilford Delta 1600 or 3200, these are B&W T-grain
films, but with 3200ASA you should be able to just make out the sleeping
Black cat in the coal bin at midnight, with overcast conditions. If the
light is really bad, then use those for the service and keep the colour
for where you can control the light better. Considering that the Bride
is wearing a white dress, and the groom a Black suit, who needs colour?

Actually I am not working. I believe I am the only one that will be
attending the wedding that will have anything but a point and shoot or
less. I am doing this as a favor to them. I have told them several
times that I am not a professional and that it could work out okay or
not so okay. I really think I could satisfy them by taking a few
shots with my camera on automatic with my flash and flash bracket.


Hmmm, maybe this would be a good opportunity, do something unusual, like
B&W, many labs that can handle B&W will print them on colour paper, with
the filterpack set for a nice sepia toning. Looks like it could have
been done in 1904 as easily as 2004, especially if your using a grainy
film, because of low light. These are the kinds of photos that people
hang on the wall, because they have so few of this kind of photo.

Since I am doing this as a favor, I can't really afford to shoot rolls
of film before the event. I have used Kodak VPS and similar many
times with acceptable results. I doubt using Portra will be a
problem.

I am an amateur and guest at the wedding with some professional
equipment and a little knowledge doing a favor for two friends. I
would never agree to do a wedding for money.


I would make the resulting photos your wedding gift to them, so film and
processing costs should be kept within reason. A test roll is to save
you using a film you don't know, and not liking the result.

W




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Old October 2nd 04, 04:47 PM
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"hba1c" wrote in message


I will be traveling 250 miles the day before and I may not have access
to refrigeration. Any thoughts? Portra or


Take two half gallon (2L) pop or water bottles, drink the pop (get one
you like), then fill with water to within 20% of the top, put in the
freezer a few days before. Get one of those cheap Styrofoam coolers
(Under $5 at Walmart). When your ready to leave, take the film boxes
and put them in the cooler inside a plastic shopping bag (no holes),
along with your frozen bottles. The frozen bottles will suck up any
heat as it thaws, keeping your film nice and cold. The plastic bottles
will keep the water from getting everywhere. This works in warm
weather if the temps are less then 50F/10C then don't worry about it.

W
 




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