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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
"Leroy N. Soetoro" wrote in message ...
http://www.opb.org/news/article/port...-surveillance- camera-registry/?google_editors_picks=true The Portland Police Bureau is asking homeowners and businesses with security cameras to register them - so cops can quickly investigate crimes. Police say the registry program is voluntary and cameras can be removed from the registry at any time. Also, registering doesn't mean police have automatic access to footage on the cameras. Some privacy groups have spoken out against the idea, saying it contributes to a feeling that Big Brother is always watching. The idea sounds good - a voluntary registering with owners right of refusal. As to contributes to a feeling that Big Brother is always watching. well, someone is very often watching. And irritatingly, it generally is some one interested in slamming all types of authority & getting rich. |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:10:41 -0700 (PDT), RichA
wrote: On Friday, 28 April 2017 12:56:46 UTC-4, a425couple wrote: "Leroy N. Soetoro" wrote in message ... http://www.opb.org/news/article/port...-surveillance- camera-registry/?google_editors_picks=true The Portland Police Bureau is asking homeowners and businesses with security cameras to register them - so cops can quickly investigate crimes. Police say the registry program is voluntary and cameras can be removed from the registry at any time. Also, registering doesn't mean police have automatic access to footage on the cameras. Some privacy groups have spoken out against the idea, saying it contributes to a feeling that Big Brother is always watching. The idea sounds good - a voluntary registering with owners right of refusal. Meanwhile, you name if you refuse goes in the same database as those considered to be "trouble-makers." You hvae gone off half-cocked in several directions at once. :-) The idea of registering the cameras is so that the powers that be will know about them. If you don't register your camera the powers that be will *not* know about it. Therefore they cannot put it on a list of any kind. I can add that if they can put it on a list of troublemakers then they do know it exists and *can* put it on a list of known surveilance cameras. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
On 2017-04-29 23:52:19 +0000, Eric Stevens said:
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:10:41 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote: On Friday, 28 April 2017 12:56:46 UTC-4, a425couple wrote: "Leroy N. Soetoro" wrote in message ... http://www.opb.org/news/article/port...-surveillance- camera-registry/?google_editors_picks=true The Portland Police Bureau is asking homeowners and businesses with security cameras to register them - so cops can quickly investigate crimes. Police say the registry program is voluntary and cameras can be removed from the registry at any time. Also, registering doesn't mean police have automatic access to footage on the cameras. Some privacy groups have spoken out against the idea, saying it contributes to a feeling that Big Brother is always watching. The idea sounds good - a voluntary registering with owners right of refusal. Meanwhile, you name if you refuse goes in the same database as those considered to be "trouble-makers." You hvae gone off half-cocked in several directions at once. :-) Does that mean several instances of nothing happen all over, all at once? -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
In article , Mayayana
wrote: Do you suppose the friendly officer might give you a break at that next speed trap scam? learn how to find and avoid them. |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
"Savageduck" wrote
| Do you suppose the friendly officer might give you a break | at that next speed trap scam? | | You have a very twisted view of reality, and I am sure that you would | not hesitate to call 911 when you have a need for law enforcement or | other emergency services. | It's all true. I have nothing against cops. It is a tough job. At the same time, they get very good benefits. (At least where I live. They're gov't workers, which are just about the only people still getting pensions.) Every once in awhile the local papers publish the astonishing overtime pay. some in boston making 300K+ with overtime. Mass seems to be the only state where, thanks to state police lobbying, an actual cop is required to be in attendance for all road work. They sit there in their cars, lights flashing. Required by law. When I was a teenager I worked at a drugstore. At least half the local cops expected to come in and get whatever they wanted for a token price. I asked the pharmacist about it. He said if we didn't pay them off they wouldn't show up if there was a break-in. Though there was one detective who absolutely refused any discount. I've never met a fireman who didn't have a second job. High risk, yes. But enough free time for two jobs. For you to deny those things would be immature, just as it would be unreasonable for me, as a contractor, to contest the fact that plenty of contractors cheat people. In neither case are the stereotypes the norm, but in both cases the nature of the job lends itself to fulfilling those stereotypes. The last cop I talked to was the one who caught me in a speed trap scam several years ago. He started asking all sorts of questions, like where was I going? Who did I work for? I finally said none of his questions had anything to do with my infraction. He got haughty and wrote me extra tickets, for a dirty license plate and not wearing a seat belt. He didn't pretend that he wasn't lying about that. I was wearing a seatbelt. He just smiled and challenged me to argue with him again. I contested the ticket and won, but the fees cost me about the same as the ticket! Everyone knows the only way to get along with such cops is to grovel. They need to be boss. It's happened to me time and again. Of course it doesn't happen every time. My next door neighbor is a retired cop. Very sweet guy. And if I need to I'll call 911. and I'll appreciate the help. So please don't get all high and mighty about respect for cops. To ignore the potential for corruption would be naive and dangerous. |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
In article , Tony Cooper
wrote: The last cop I talked to was the one who caught me in a speed trap scam several years ago. How was it a "scam"? If the speed limit was posted, and you were exceeding the posted limit, you were not scammed. speed traps exist solely for revenue generation purposes, not safety, making it a scam. furthermore, most speed limits are deliberately set lower than they should be so that more tickets can be written, thereby increasing revenue. At one time there were a number of semi-legitimate speed traps in Florida. Small towns that depended on traffic fines did things like dropping the limit from 65 mph to 30 mph without any advance signage and around a bend in the highway. A motorist unfamiliar with the situation would be in the 30 mph area before he knew it, and the local cop would be sitting right on the line. Most of those local situations no longer exist today, though. easily challenged in court. they know that few people will bother. That kind of speed trap is usually the bright idea of the city politicians who want ways to increase the city income, not the idea of the police who have to enforce it. in other words, a scam. |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
On 2017-04-30 01:32:09 +0000, "Mayayana" said:
"Savageduck" wrote | Do you suppose the friendly officer might give you a break | at that next speed trap scam? | | You have a very twisted view of reality, and I am sure that you would | not hesitate to call 911 when you have a need for law enforcement or | other emergency services. | It's all true. In your mind, and as portrayed in fantasy. I have nothing against cops. Apparantly you do. It is a tough job. Yup! At the same time, they get very good benefits. (At least where I live. They're gov't workers, which are just about the only people still getting pensions.) As I have said, I cannot complain about the benefits I earned while I worked, and my pension was also earned, and not without my monthly contribution (we do not get Social Security, just MediCare). I also contributed to my 457 and 401 accounts. Every once in awhile the local papers publish the astonishing overtime pay. some in boston making 300K+ with overtime. There are overtime hogs everywhere. However, not all of that overtime is voluntary. Many times officers are ordered over due to staff shortages, and unanticipated incidents. Mass seems to be the only state where, thanks to state police lobbying, an actual cop is required to be in attendance for all road work. They sit there in their cars, lights flashing. Required by law. That depends on the State. On California State routes, and some Interstates where major work is in progress, and sometimes (but, not all times) when CalTrans is engaged in work on State/Interstate Hwys You might find a CHP officer in attendance. There is a reason for that: http://www.dot.ca.gov/paffairs/workersmemorial/worker-fatality-statistics.html https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/wz/resources/facts_stats/safety.htm When I was a teenager I worked at a drugstore. At least half the local cops expected to come in and get whatever they wanted for a token price. I asked the pharmacist about it. He said if we didn't pay them off they wouldn't show up if there was a break-in. When you were a teenager, where? I don't doubt that you experience that sort of corruption. However, today, that in my experience is the exception rather than the rule. Though there was one detective who absolutely refused any discount. A man of ethics. I've never met a fireman who didn't have a second job. High risk, yes. But enough free time for two jobs. I don't know what sort of FD they worked for, but I would take into consideration the type of schedule they worked. Different departments work different schedules. Some work 24 hours on, 24 hours off, with 2 consecutive days off every two weeks. Some work far more grueling schedules with 4 x 24 hour days on, and 3 days off. Not many have the energy for that extra job. For you to deny those things would be immature, Deny what things? That some firemen work a second job when they are not scheduled to work? Sure that happens, but that is not what most of those folks do, it is only what you believe ALL of them do. That is your particular prejudice. In my case, I was subject to being ordered over for additional hours due to staff shortage or unexpected incident. I have also been called back, and ordered in to work hours after getting home. It is not a 9 to 5 job with weekends and holidays off. just as it would be unreasonable for me, as a contractor, to contest the fact that plenty of contractors cheat people. In neither case are the stereotypes the norm, but in both cases the nature of the job lends itself to fulfilling those stereotypes. My point exactly, and also not every public employee, cop, firefighter, road worker, or DMV desk jockey is corrupt. The last cop I talked to was the one who caught me in a speed trap scam several years ago. He started asking all sorts of questions, like where was I going? Who did I work for? I finally said none of his questions had anything to do with my infraction. He got haughty and wrote me extra tickets, for a dirty license plate and not wearing a seat belt. He didn't pretend that he wasn't lying about that. I was wearing a seatbelt. He just smiled and challenged me to argue with him again. I contested the ticket and won, but the fees cost me about the same as the ticket! So, you encountered an asshole cop. They exist, and they should lose their jobs. Many do. What you should have done is file a formal Citizen's Complaint. Most every law enforcement ageny has a means to formally file a Citizen's Complaint. Check your State DOJ, and Municipal/City PD web sites for more info. For Mass. for example there is this. http://www.mass.gov/eopss/agencies/msp/citizen-concerns.html Everyone knows the only way to get along with such cops is to grovel. They need to be boss. It's happened to me time and again. Of course it doesn't happen every time. My next door neighbor is a retired cop. Very sweet guy. And if I need to I'll call 911. and I'll appreciate the help. So please don't get all high and mighty about respect for cops. To ignore the potential for corruption would be naive and dangerous. I am not getting "high and mighty about respect for cops". When it comes to respect, cops like anybody else need to earn that respect. However, you seem to have some ingrained prejudices against law enforcement officers and other public employees. That I take issue with because that is not how I conducted myself in Law enforcement for 25 years, and it is not how the vast majority of officers, and firefighters I have worked with, conduct themselves. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To RegisterSurveillance Cameras
On 30/04/2017 01:55, Savageduck wrote:
At one point I worked two 18 hour days in a row and on the drive home I fell asleep at the wheel with this result. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dphxmzh5p3ihkt2/Ford_12.JPG https://www.dropbox.com/s/chwxl7cfn6pvmng/Ford_15.JPG Oops! I hope you were not badly hurt. I wish you a long and happy retirement. :-) -- "Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer) |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To Register Surveillance Cameras
On 2017-04-30 06:36:14 +0000, "David B." said:
On 30/04/2017 01:55, Savageduck wrote: At one point I worked two 18 hour days in a row and on the drive home I fell asleep at the wheel with this result. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dphxmzh5p3ihkt2/Ford_12.JPG https://www.dropbox.com/s/chwxl7cfn6pvmng/Ford_15.JPG Oops! Oops indeed. I hope you were not badly hurt. I was lucky. The car performed a barrel roll, and ended up on the roof. It then slid into an embankment on the opposite side of the road, that triggered the airbags. The airbag blew my right hand off the steering wheel, and up through the now shattered sunroof. Unfortunately the car was still sliding on the roof, so my right hand got chewed up quite a bit, nothing broken. Just a lot like raw ham. Along with the airbag working, the seatbelt worked pretty good. I was left hanging upside down, and got a wicked seatbelt burn across my left collarbone and chest. The hand injury kept me out of work for two weeks. It healed up nicely, and all is well. That was back in 1995. I wish you a long and happy retirement. :-) So far so good. I pulled the plug in 2009 to become a member of the Great Army of The Gainfully Unemployed. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Portland Gestapo Ask Homeowners, Businesses To RegisterSurveillance Cameras
On 30/04/2017 08:08, Savageduck wrote:
On 2017-04-30 06:36:14 +0000, "David B." said: On 30/04/2017 01:55, Savageduck wrote: At one point I worked two 18 hour days in a row and on the drive home I fell asleep at the wheel with this result. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dphxmzh5p3ihkt2/Ford_12.JPG https://www.dropbox.com/s/chwxl7cfn6pvmng/Ford_15.JPG Oops! Oops indeed. I hope you were not badly hurt. I was lucky. YOU WERE! The car performed a barrel roll, and ended up on the roof. It then slid into an embankment on the opposite side of the road, that triggered the airbags. The airbag blew my right hand off the steering wheel, and up through the now shattered sunroof. Unfortunately the car was still sliding on the roof, so my right hand got chewed up quite a bit, nothing broken. Just a lot like raw ham. Along with the airbag working, the seatbelt worked pretty good. I was left hanging upside down, and got a wicked seatbelt burn across my left collarbone and chest. The hand injury kept me out of work for two weeks. It healed up nicely, and all is well. That was back in 1995. Thanks for explaining what happened. I guess your guardian angel was working long hours too ...... on your behalf! I'm so pleased that you were not badly hurt. I wish you a long and happy retirement. :-) So far so good. I pulled the plug in 2009 to become a member of the Great Army of The Gainfully Unemployed. Do you participate on Facebook? I find it great for sharing photographs. I spend FAR too much time in front of a screen. You may be interested in reading this article about Microsoft's newest toy:- http://www.techradar.com/reviews/surface-studio For now, I'll stick with my iMac! ;-) -- "Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer) |
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