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After I put two grand down the Nikon black hole of Melville. I've learned
the lesson. Reasonable people don't let reasonable people waste money on Nikon. This is a lesson you apparently haven't or can't learn - I find most Nikon fanatics tend to be a little weak in the logic department and tout the cameras bugs as features (ie no miror lock up because in the situation wherre you could use it you would be better off buying a used F than having a F100 that could do all you want it to do. Of course then there are the pure trolls like you who don't even defend Nikon - simply attack me - because you know there is no defense for Nikon. The company is selling third rate shi-tuff that you can't defend. But admitting that would be admitting you paid more to see the admiring faces of the people who will admire your good taste. Even there, Nikon is second rate when compared to Leica. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Wesley Jansen" wrote in message link.net... Yes, I'll believe I'll nominate you as the Canon troll of the year. Congrats! ;-) All this incredible bitterness over a scanner. My, my. "Tony" wrote in message om... Canon had MF stuff for about 40 years - I thought it was nice but never bought any myself - although the 12 years I spent with two Nikon dogs eventually convinced me I would have been better off with any other brand. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Wesley Jansen" wrote in message news "Tony" wrote in message om... Actually the MF will be the heavier given similar models. They tend to be old designs with mechanical linkages and metal bodies. The only advantage to them is that some equipment snobs will tell you that you'll learn more about photography from them - they are wrong, and in fact actually don't have the vaguest idea how wrong they are, but that's the way they are, and no amount of evidence is gonna change them. Go for AF - and take a look at Canon and Pentax while you're at it. Nikon has been running on empty for a while now. And I'll wager if Canon HAD any MF stuff, you'd think it was just peachy! ;-) |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:48 +0000, Tony wrote:
After I put two grand down the Nikon black hole of Melville. I've learned the lesson. Reasonable people don't let reasonable people waste money on Nikon. This is a lesson you apparently haven't or can't learn - I find most Nikon fanatics tend to be a little weak in the logic department and tout the cameras bugs as features (ie no miror lock up because in the situation wherre you could use it you would be better off buying a used F than having a F100 that could do all you want it to do. Of course then there are the pure trolls like you who don't even defend Nikon - simply attack me - because you know there is no defense for Nikon. The company is selling third rate shi-tuff that you can't defend. But admitting that would be admitting you paid more to see the admiring faces of the people who will admire your good taste. Even there, Nikon is second rate when compared to Leica. At least you got 12 years out of your Nikon dogs. I only got 13 lousy months out of a camera that cost me more than 2 Nikon F5's at the time. Those Canon *******s. Those thieving shylocks. Problem with you, Mr. Spadrora, is that you are about as intelligent as a cross between a Rhino and a big piece of bull****. Sadly there is no cure for terminal stupidity. Adios! -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "You know you're right! You're bloody well right! You've bloody got a right to say!" ~ Supertramp |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:48 +0000, Tony wrote:
After I put two grand down the Nikon black hole of Melville. I've learned the lesson. Reasonable people don't let reasonable people waste money on Nikon. This is a lesson you apparently haven't or can't learn - I find most Nikon fanatics tend to be a little weak in the logic department and tout the cameras bugs as features (ie no miror lock up because in the situation wherre you could use it you would be better off buying a used F than having a F100 that could do all you want it to do. Of course then there are the pure trolls like you who don't even defend Nikon - simply attack me - because you know there is no defense for Nikon. The company is selling third rate shi-tuff that you can't defend. But admitting that would be admitting you paid more to see the admiring faces of the people who will admire your good taste. Even there, Nikon is second rate when compared to Leica. At least you got 12 years out of your Nikon dogs. I only got 13 lousy months out of a camera that cost me more than 2 Nikon F5's at the time. Those Canon *******s. Those thieving shylocks. Problem with you, Mr. Spadrora, is that you are about as intelligent as a cross between a Rhino and a big piece of bull****. Sadly there is no cure for terminal stupidity. Adios! -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "You know you're right! You're bloody well right! You've bloody got a right to say!" ~ Supertramp |
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Are you still alive? Or is this merely someone just as stupid as you
spoofing your assinine attitude? Canon Rebel 1991 - still in use Canon Elan 1992 - was still in use until stolen in 2002 Canon Elan 7 2002 - still in use Canon EOS 3 1999 - still in use None have ever had a repair and all work as if brand new despite having been throgh falls (every one of them) Nikon F2 owned 1979 -1992 Repaired immediaately after purchase and then there were either three or four trips for repair before trade in. No drops no rough treatment. Nikkormat FTn owned 1979 -1992 Repaired immediately after purchase and then made a minimum of three trips to the repair shop. It was in serious need of work when traded in. No drops no rough treatment. In fact these cameras were such dogs I have less film from all of the 80s than from the first year I owned my Elan. So they got very little use. As I said before Nikon people have nothing to back up the lies they tell about the junk so they attack me - typical of ****eheads everywhere. Now back in the killfile, brain dead trolls boer me. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Dallas 2" wrote in message news On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:48 +0000, Tony wrote: After I put two grand down the Nikon black hole of Melville. I've learned the lesson. Reasonable people don't let reasonable people waste money on Nikon. This is a lesson you apparently haven't or can't learn - I find most Nikon fanatics tend to be a little weak in the logic department and tout the cameras bugs as features (ie no miror lock up because in the situation wherre you could use it you would be better off buying a used F than having a F100 that could do all you want it to do. Of course then there are the pure trolls like you who don't even defend Nikon - simply attack me - because you know there is no defense for Nikon. The company is selling third rate shi-tuff that you can't defend. But admitting that would be admitting you paid more to see the admiring faces of the people who will admire your good taste. Even there, Nikon is second rate when compared to Leica. At least you got 12 years out of your Nikon dogs. I only got 13 lousy months out of a camera that cost me more than 2 Nikon F5's at the time. Those Canon *******s. Those thieving shylocks. Problem with you, Mr. Spadrora, is that you are about as intelligent as a cross between a Rhino and a big piece of bull****. Sadly there is no cure for terminal stupidity. Adios! -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "You know you're right! You're bloody well right! You've bloody got a right to say!" ~ Supertramp |
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Are you still alive? Or is this merely someone just as stupid as you
spoofing your assinine attitude? Canon Rebel 1991 - still in use Canon Elan 1992 - was still in use until stolen in 2002 Canon Elan 7 2002 - still in use Canon EOS 3 1999 - still in use None have ever had a repair and all work as if brand new despite having been throgh falls (every one of them) Nikon F2 owned 1979 -1992 Repaired immediaately after purchase and then there were either three or four trips for repair before trade in. No drops no rough treatment. Nikkormat FTn owned 1979 -1992 Repaired immediately after purchase and then made a minimum of three trips to the repair shop. It was in serious need of work when traded in. No drops no rough treatment. In fact these cameras were such dogs I have less film from all of the 80s than from the first year I owned my Elan. So they got very little use. As I said before Nikon people have nothing to back up the lies they tell about the junk so they attack me - typical of ****eheads everywhere. Now back in the killfile, brain dead trolls boer me. -- http://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html "Dallas 2" wrote in message news On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:07:48 +0000, Tony wrote: After I put two grand down the Nikon black hole of Melville. I've learned the lesson. Reasonable people don't let reasonable people waste money on Nikon. This is a lesson you apparently haven't or can't learn - I find most Nikon fanatics tend to be a little weak in the logic department and tout the cameras bugs as features (ie no miror lock up because in the situation wherre you could use it you would be better off buying a used F than having a F100 that could do all you want it to do. Of course then there are the pure trolls like you who don't even defend Nikon - simply attack me - because you know there is no defense for Nikon. The company is selling third rate shi-tuff that you can't defend. But admitting that would be admitting you paid more to see the admiring faces of the people who will admire your good taste. Even there, Nikon is second rate when compared to Leica. At least you got 12 years out of your Nikon dogs. I only got 13 lousy months out of a camera that cost me more than 2 Nikon F5's at the time. Those Canon *******s. Those thieving shylocks. Problem with you, Mr. Spadrora, is that you are about as intelligent as a cross between a Rhino and a big piece of bull****. Sadly there is no cure for terminal stupidity. Adios! -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "You know you're right! You're bloody well right! You've bloody got a right to say!" ~ Supertramp |
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Tony wrote:
Are you still alive? Or is this merely someone just as stupid as you snipped Now back in the killfile, brain dead trolls boer me. How ironic. Mr. Tony "killfile" Spadaro has changed his online handle to escape the many killfiles he is in ... but he keeps killin' 'em here... |
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Tony wrote:
Are you still alive? Or is this merely someone just as stupid as you snipped Now back in the killfile, brain dead trolls boer me. How ironic. Mr. Tony "killfile" Spadaro has changed his online handle to escape the many killfiles he is in ... but he keeps killin' 'em here... |
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Nikons are MF-to-AF compatible and Canons aren't. And, I don't need or
want autofocus. And, Canon no longer makes MF cameras-some of its MF 35mm cameras were excellent. Some of Nikon's are excellent as well. Spermdaro is ****ed at Nikon because they gave him a hard one in the rear over some products. I don't doubt they did. I know of no manufacturer of cameras that hasn't ****ed its user base over somehow or another. But that doesn't change the fact that generally speaking the pro Nikons have proven mostly reliable cameras, that the Nikon line includes a lot of superb glass, that the Nikon pro system cameras were the most versatile in terms of the accessories,and that there's a hell of a lot of history that has been seen through those Nikkors. You can find early F Nikons and Nikkors that might have seen JFK, Marilyn Monroe, the old Penn Station, the Beatles getting off the jet in New York.....what did Eddie Adams get that great shot of the commie ******* getting the bullet he richly deserved with? And one of Bert Stern's or George Barris's Nikkors that captured the last MM sessions will fit on a F6. Not every pro used Nikons. Jim Marshall, evidently, actually uses R Leicas and some guys shot Canons, Pentaxes, even Topcons. But more used Nikon than everything else put together. This isn't a perfect world. People-and companies and technologies (and film scanners, eh?)-die before their time. Companies do the expedient instead of the right thing. Corporations whore themselves out and act sanctimoniously about it even when caught redhanded. But I don't have to appreciate every single thing the company does to use some of its products. I drive a Mercedes Benz-a 1984 model-even though I think the Flick family are cocksuckers who should have been gassed wholesale in 1945 with Zyklon B. I'm typing this on a Windows 2000 running computer even though in general I prefer FreeBSD or commercial RISC Unix and think Bill Gates is a load.(Jobs is worse.) I keep a Smith and Wesson under my bed even though they supported gun control (and how dumb is that-even cops I know refused to pack them after that!). I have a Linn Sondek turntable even though I think they are overpriced copies of the Merrill-modified AR. And I use Leica cameras despite the fact that their optics are very overrated and a lot of Leica fans are morons with too much money. Sometimes, you just have to bury the hatchet and get on with it. |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:41:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Tony wrote: Are you still alive? Or is this merely someone just as stupid as you snipped Now back in the killfile, brain dead trolls boer me. How ironic. Mr. Tony "killfile" Spadaro has changed his online handle to escape the many killfiles he is in ... but he keeps killin' 'em here... And he called me a "boer". Sad man, sad. FWIW, I am the anti-thesis of the Afrikaner "Boer". Natal is known as the Last Outpost of British Colonialism. We hate boers. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "You know you're right! You're bloody well right! You've bloody got a right to say!" ~ Supertramp |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:41:47 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
Tony wrote: Are you still alive? Or is this merely someone just as stupid as you snipped Now back in the killfile, brain dead trolls boer me. How ironic. Mr. Tony "killfile" Spadaro has changed his online handle to escape the many killfiles he is in ... but he keeps killin' 'em here... And he called me a "boer". Sad man, sad. FWIW, I am the anti-thesis of the Afrikaner "Boer". Natal is known as the Last Outpost of British Colonialism. We hate boers. -- Dallas www.dallasdahms.com "You know you're right! You're bloody well right! You've bloody got a right to say!" ~ Supertramp |
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