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Windows 10 Experience
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:34:15 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote: Over the weekend I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10. It's a painless experience and went without a hitch. All my apps carried over and opened OK. However, went I tried to use the Develop module in Lightroom, and tried to edit in CC 2015, things hung up with that "Not responding" message. Every time. The Library module in LR worked fine. I did some web sleuthing and found this a fairly common problem and is usually a problem with the graphics card drivers. I tried some fixes, but nothing eliminated the problem. I don't know what hardware you are using but if you are coming from far behind, I can heartily recommend (a) getting all your drivers (including BIOS) uptodate and (b) using Driver Detective http://www.drivershq.com/ (it won't do the BIOS). Overall, I saw nothing special about Windows 10. There are some differences in the Desktop that take a little getting used to, but no particular advantages that I could determine. Cortana works OK, and voice-opened apps and searched pretty well. That "feature" doesn't ring my bell, though. I feel silly talking to the machine when I can get where I want to go just as easily using my fingers on the keyboard or using the mouse. I suppose I'm a primitive cave dweller. I went back Windows 7. That went well also. No hitches at all, and everything is now back as it was. PS and LR work a treat. I'm not anti-10, but I have no further interest in the upgrade. I suppose I'll have to accept 10 if and when I buy a new computer, but that computer will assumedly have the right graphics card drivers. Just to be clear, I *think* it was a graphics card driver but never really determined that this was the problem with LR and PS, or that this was the only problem. I didn't bother to re-install either app. Because 10 was nothing special otherwise, I didn't pursue a solution beyond a few steps. I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Windows 10 Experience
On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:10:08 +1200, Eric Stevens
wrote: I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? |
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Windows 10 Experience
In article , Bill W
wrote: I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? it's not hard to find devices on a network, regardless of ip address. |
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Windows 10 Experience
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 17:34:50 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? it's not hard to find devices on a network, regardless of ip address. If he set up a static IP for the printer, and the printer is connected directly to the network, not one of the computers, and the IP changed, I don't think the XP computer can find it. I'm basing this on my experience with PC's with static IP's, but I think it would also apply to printers. And I did admittedly leave the static part out of my first reply. |
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Windows 10 Experience
In article , Bill W
wrote: I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? it's not hard to find devices on a network, regardless of ip address. If he set up a static IP for the printer, and the printer is connected directly to the network, not one of the computers, and the IP changed, I don't think the XP computer can find it. it can with bonjour, without the user having to muck around configuring things. once again, let the computer do the work *for* you. I'm basing this on my experience with PC's with static IP's, but I think it would also apply to printers. And I did admittedly leave the static part out of my first reply. static ip was implied, but it doesn't actually matter. |
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Windows 10 Experience
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:00:27 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? it's not hard to find devices on a network, regardless of ip address. If he set up a static IP for the printer, and the printer is connected directly to the network, not one of the computers, and the IP changed, I don't think the XP computer can find it. it can with bonjour, without the user having to muck around configuring things. once again, let the computer do the work *for* you. Never heard of it before. Have you used it on Windows PC's? Does it work well? Easy to use? |
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Windows 10 Experience
In article , Bill W
wrote: Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? it's not hard to find devices on a network, regardless of ip address. If he set up a static IP for the printer, and the printer is connected directly to the network, not one of the computers, and the IP changed, I don't think the XP computer can find it. it can with bonjour, without the user having to muck around configuring things. once again, let the computer do the work *for* you. Never heard of it before. bonjour is apple's implementation of zeroconf, which is available on multiple platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking Zero-configuration networking (zeroconf) is a set of technologies that automatically creates a usable computer network based on the Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) when computers or network peripherals are interconnected. It does not require manual operator intervention or special configuration servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software) Bonjour is Apple's implementation of Zero-configuration networking (Zeroconf), a group of technologies that includes service discovery, address assignment, and hostname resolution. Bonjour locates devices such as printers, other computers, and the services that those devices offer on a local network using multicast Domain Name System (mDNS) service records. .... Bonjour version 2.0, released on February 24, 2010, works with Microsoft Windows 2000, 2003, XP, Vista and 7.[8] Systems use it primarily to facilitate the installation, configuration, and use of network printers, and thus it runs from startup. When Bonjour is fully implemented on Windows, some features‹such as iChat‹allow for communication between Windows and Mac OS. Bonjour for Windows also adds Zeroconf capabilities to Internet Explorer, and provides a Zeroconf implementation to Java VMs.[8][9] Bonjour also comes bundled with some third-party applications, such as Adobe's Photoshop CS3 suite,[10] to take advantage of Zeroconf technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software) Avahi is a free zero-configuration networking (zeroconf) implementation, including a system for multicast DNS/DNS-SD service discovery. It is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). Have you used it on Windows PC's? Does it work well? Easy to use? yes to all three. just about all printers these days as well as many other devices have bonjour. simply connect the printer or other device to the network and it shows up on the computer. the easiest way to get bonjour is install itunes, but if you don't want itunes, you can install bonjour directly: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL999?locale=en_US |
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Windows 10 Experience
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 19:30:55 -0400, nospam
wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? it's not hard to find devices on a network, regardless of ip address. If he set up a static IP for the printer, and the printer is connected directly to the network, not one of the computers, and the IP changed, I don't think the XP computer can find it. it can with bonjour, without the user having to muck around configuring things. once again, let the computer do the work *for* you. Never heard of it before. bonjour is apple's implementation of zeroconf, which is available on multiple platforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking Zero-configuration networking (zeroconf) is a set of technologies that automatically creates a usable computer network based on the Internet Protocol Suite (TCP/IP) when computers or network peripherals are interconnected. It does not require manual operator intervention or special configuration servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software) Bonjour is Apple's implementation of Zero-configuration networking (Zeroconf), a group of technologies that includes service discovery, address assignment, and hostname resolution. Bonjour locates devices such as printers, other computers, and the services that those devices offer on a local network using multicast Domain Name System (mDNS) service records. ... Bonjour version 2.0, released on February 24, 2010, works with Microsoft Windows 2000, 2003, XP, Vista and 7.[8] Systems use it primarily to facilitate the installation, configuration, and use of network printers, and thus it runs from startup. When Bonjour is fully implemented on Windows, some features‹such as iChat‹allow for communication between Windows and Mac OS. Bonjour for Windows also adds Zeroconf capabilities to Internet Explorer, and provides a Zeroconf implementation to Java VMs.[8][9] Bonjour also comes bundled with some third-party applications, such as Adobe's Photoshop CS3 suite,[10] to take advantage of Zeroconf technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software) Avahi is a free zero-configuration networking (zeroconf) implementation, including a system for multicast DNS/DNS-SD service discovery. It is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). Have you used it on Windows PC's? Does it work well? Easy to use? yes to all three. just about all printers these days as well as many other devices have bonjour. simply connect the printer or other device to the network and it shows up on the computer. the easiest way to get bonjour is install itunes, but if you don't want itunes, you can install bonjour directly: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL999?locale=en_US Can you force it to set up static IP's? |
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Windows 10 Experience
In article , Bill W
wrote: Can you force it to set up static IP's? you can use static ips if you prefer, but i don't know why you'd want to do that. it's a lot more hassle. a better solution is what's often called static dhcp, where the device uses dhcp to dynamically obtain an ip address but it's always the same one every time because the router ties it to the mac address of the device. it has all of the benefits of a static ip without the hassles. if you ever want to change the device's ip, you just change it in the router and renew the dhcp lease. done. no need to figure out how to change the ip address on each individual device, which is usually not straightforward and different for each device. anyway, bonjour/zeroconf doesn't care what the ip address is because it's based on services. given device advertises what it can do, such as printing, scanning, etc. and if a computer needs that service, it establishes a connection to the device using whatever ip the device currently has. all of that happens behind the scenes, so if you reconfigure the network, everything still works. |
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Windows 10 Experience
rOn Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:20:19 -0700, Bill W
wrote: On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 09:10:08 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote: I have an OKI C5600 printer on my home network. The two computers which connect to it run Windows 10 and XP. The most uptodate driver available for the printer is Windows 8.1. It's printing of Windows 10 but won't accept anything from XP. I suspect the problem is a clash of network security policies but so far I haven't been able to find any user interface for this in W10. Frustrating. Is the XP computer looking for the wrong printer IP address, because it changed? XP can find it, it can print to it, but it's rejected with a print error. Maybe the new 8.1 driver is the problem, even though it's supposed to compatible with XP. I'm too busy running in other circles to find out right now. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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