Curves - Making the cut

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2012-11-13 08:55:53 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:11:14 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

1930

2-door Lincoln Cabriolet.

Nice.
Here is a 1934 Lincoln KB Brunn Victoria.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5668-Ew.jpg


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Regards,

Savageduck

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:58:52 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 08:55:53 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:11:14 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

1930

2-door Lincoln Cabriolet.

Nice.
Here is a 1934 Lincoln KB Brunn Victoria.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5668-Ew.jpg


Nice photos, thanks.

Shame about what looks like an add on chain on the 1930 Lincoln spare;
seems out of place?

On 2012-11-13 10:05:13 -0800, Polly the Parrott
said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:58:52 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 08:55:53 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:11:14 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

1930

2-door

Lincoln Cabriolet.

Nice.
Here is a 1934 Lincoln KB Brunn Victoria.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5668-Ew.jpg


Nice photos, thanks.

Shame about what looks like an add on chain on the 1930 Lincoln spare;
seems out of place?

I agree. The chain does not look original or period restoration.

Most of the 1926-36 Lincolns I have shot have a wing mirror mounted on
the spare with a leather strap.
Here is a 1930 Lincoln Town Sedan showing the mirror and strap;
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5634-Ew.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...NC5634-ECw.jpg


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Regards,

Savageduck

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:11:22 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 10:05:13 -0800, Polly the Parrott
said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:58:52 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 08:55:53 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:11:14 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

1930

2-door

Lincoln Cabriolet.

Nice.
Here is a 1934 Lincoln KB Brunn Victoria.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5668-Ew.jpg


Nice photos, thanks.

Shame about what looks like an add on chain on the 1930 Lincoln spare;
seems out of place?

I agree. The chain does not look original or period restoration.

Most of the 1926-36 Lincolns I have shot have a wing mirror mounted on
the spare with a leather strap.
Here is a 1930 Lincoln Town Sedan showing the mirror and strap;
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5634-Ew.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...NC5634-ECw.jpg

That looks better!

Must have been very inconvenient if the tyre had to be changed!

On 2012-11-13 12:46:13 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:11:22 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 10:05:13 -0800, Polly the Parrott
said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:58:52 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 08:55:53 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:11:14 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

1930

2-door

Lincoln

Cabriolet.

Nice.
Here is a 1934 Lincoln KB Brunn Victoria.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5668-Ew.jpg


Nice photos, thanks.

Shame about what looks like an add on chain on the 1930 Lincoln spare;
seems out of place?

I agree. The chain does not look original or period restoration.

I really don't know if the chain was used on that particular year and
model. However, this is a vehicle entered in the Concours D'Elegance.
I think that it is a requirement for entry that all restoration be
authentic if the vehicle is to be judged.

The fittings on the mirror would determine if a leather strap or a
chain could be used. If it's an authentic mirror, and a chair fits,
then I have to assume that the chain was authentic for the model.

Me, I just take photographs.

Most Concours D'Elegance rules are not standard, but vary by committee,
but for the most part are so similar it makes little difference. Pebble
Beach and Amelia Island are probably the two most rigorous US
committees. I can't speak for the Winter Park event.
Generally you are going to be looking at three groups at a Concours,
"Original unrestored", "Original restored", & "Frame up restoration".
The judges and committees will have different levels of tolerance for
each category. Usually the first two require original equipment, or
optional original equipment available at the time of original sale. If
the spare tire mirror mount chain on your car was an original option
(something I am not aware of, but a Concours judge specializing in the
Lincoln Marque certainly would be) it would comply.
Many "Frame up" restorations are able to meet the "Original restored"
category provided original parts and/or options are used. These cars
can be dinged points if fabricated or aftermarket replacement parts are
used.

That said, your 1930 Lincoln looks to be a nice car. The LaSalle or
"Poor man's Cadillac" are also impressive cars. We have a local 1934
Cadillac LaSalle around here that is a daily runner. Great car.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DSC2356-Ew.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...-Lasalle-w.jpg


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 11/13/2012 7:25 PM, tony cooper wrote:



Does it make any difference, though? To me, it's the curve, the
colors, and the recurring pattern of circles.


Most of that statement would apply to a woman, as well.


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Peter

In article 2012111314234434195-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
says...

On 2012-11-13 12:46:13 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:11:22 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 10:05:13 -0800, Polly the Parrott
said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:58:52 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 08:55:53 -0800, tony cooper said:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:11:14 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-11-13 07:39:50 -0800, tony cooper said:

Finding "Curves" was not all that difficult, but choosing the three to
submit is. This one's been cut but may be as good as the one's kept:

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Other/...1-11-67-X2.jpg

Nice

Lincoln!

1930

2-door

Lincoln

Cabriolet.

Nice.
Here is a 1934 Lincoln KB Brunn Victoria.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DNC5668-Ew.jpg


Nice photos, thanks.

Shame about what looks like an add on chain on the 1930 Lincoln spare;
seems out of place?

I agree. The chain does not look original or period restoration.

I really don't know if the chain was used on that particular year and
model. However, this is a vehicle entered in the Concours D'Elegance.
I think that it is a requirement for entry that all restoration be
authentic if the vehicle is to be judged.

The fittings on the mirror would determine if a leather strap or a
chain could be used. If it's an authentic mirror, and a chair fits,
then I have to assume that the chain was authentic for the model.

Me, I just take photographs.

Most Concours D'Elegance rules are not standard, but vary by committee,
but for the most part are so similar it makes little difference. Pebble
Beach and Amelia Island are probably the two most rigorous US
committees.

Wait a minute, there's a concourse held on Amelia Island now?!?!?!?!?!
I grew up there and the only automotive event of any significance was
the SCCA race at the airport. Little mill and fishing town where the
black and white high schools were still in the process of being merged.
I guess it's been gentrified beyond all recognition.

I can't speak for the Winter Park event.
Generally you are going to be looking at three groups at a Concours,
"Original unrestored", "Original restored", & "Frame up restoration".
The judges and committees will have different levels of tolerance for
each category. Usually the first two require original equipment, or
optional original equipment available at the time of original sale. If
the spare tire mirror mount chain on your car was an original option
(something I am not aware of, but a Concours judge specializing in the
Lincoln Marque certainly would be) it would comply.
Many "Frame up" restorations are able to meet the "Original restored"
category provided original parts and/or options are used. These cars
can be dinged points if fabricated or aftermarket replacement parts are
used.

That said, your 1930 Lincoln looks to be a nice car. The LaSalle or
"Poor man's Cadillac" are also impressive cars. We have a local 1934
Cadillac LaSalle around here that is a daily runner. Great car.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...DSC2356-Ew.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/Fil...-Lasalle-w.jpg

On 2012-11-15 13:46:39 -0800, "J. Clarke" said:

In article 2012111314234434195-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
says...


Most Concours D'Elegance rules are not standard, but vary by committee,
but for the most part are so similar it makes little difference. Pebble
Beach and Amelia Island are probably the two most rigorous US
committees.

Wait a minute, there's a concourse held on Amelia Island now?!?!?!?!?!
I grew up there and the only automotive event of any significance was
the SCCA race at the airport. Little mill and fishing town where the
black and white high schools were still in the process of being merged.
I guess it's been gentrified beyond all recognition.

Pack your bags and head home for the fun in March 2013!
http://www.ameliaconcours.org/eventi...n/default.aspx

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2012-11-15 14:14:07 -0800, Savageduck said:

On 2012-11-15 13:46:39 -0800, "J. Clarke" said:

In article 2012111314234434195-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
says...


Most Concours D'Elegance rules are not standard, but vary by committee,
but for the most part are so similar it makes little difference. Pebble
Beach and Amelia Island are probably the two most rigorous US
committees.

Wait a minute, there's a concourse held on Amelia Island now?!?!?!?!?!
I grew up there and the only automotive event of any significance was
the SCCA race at the airport. Little mill and fishing town where the
black and white high schools were still in the process of being merged.
I guess it's been gentrified beyond all recognition.

Pack your bags and head home for the fun in March 2013!
http://www.ameliaconcours.org/eventi...n/default.aspx

BTW: The 1937 Mercedes 540K, I shot at the 2012 San Luis Concours in
June was the best in show at the 2012 Amelia Island Concours.

http://db.tt/e0SRj5PB

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Regards,

Savageduck