Canon mirrorless EOS-M specs

On 23/07/2012 04:50, RichA wrote:

(...)
But BTW, where is the spec on
the EVF??

There is no EVF. Just the touchscreen.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

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On 23/07/2012 08:44, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 23/07/2012 04:50, RichA wrote:

(...)
But BTW, where is the spec on
the EVF??

There is no EVF. Just the touchscreen.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 23/07/2012 09:32, David Taylor wrote:
On 23/07/2012 08:44, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 23/07/2012 04:50, RichA wrote:

(...)
But BTW, where is the spec on
the EVF??

There is no EVF. Just the touchscreen.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.

There's nothing to stop Canon from adding more, higher spec, models to
the range. And as far as being able to continue to use EF-S and EF
lenses goes, I'm sure that will appeal to a number of potential customers.


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Illegitimi non carborundum

David Taylor wrote:

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.

OTOH the seonsor is quite larger than 4/3rds and it's in the
guise of a compact camera.

-Wolfgang

On 23/07/2012 14:23, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
David Taylor wrote:

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.

OTOH the seonsor is quite larger than 4/3rds and it's in the
guise of a compact camera.

-Wolfgang

Yes, it has some good points, but I think that DSLRs are better value
for money at the moment.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 7/23/2012 1:32 AM, David Taylor wrote:
On 23/07/2012 08:44, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 23/07/2012 04:50, RichA wrote:

(...)
But BTW, where is the spec on
the EVF??

There is no EVF. Just the touchscreen.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.

There will be more bodies than just the first one, and no doubt one will
have a swiveling screen.

The fact that it's not quite as compact as 4/3 is immaterial. The Canon
sensor is 46% larger, which gives it a big advantage over 4/3.

The real competition is the Nikon 1 system, and Canon's system blows it
out of the water.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:32:45 +0100, David Taylor
wrote:

On 23/07/2012 08:44, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 23/07/2012 04:50, RichA wrote:

(...)
But BTW, where is the spec on
the EVF??

There is no EVF. Just the touchscreen.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.

It was for me. There is no reason to go with that sensor size and the
much larger lenses necessary. I have a m4/3 camera now, and will be
staying put. Lots of nice bodies, tons of nice lenses. Canon has 2 (!)
EF-M lenses. Even sony has more. Pretty bad.

On 23/07/2012 23:45, SMS wrote:
On 7/23/2012 1:32 AM, David Taylor wrote:
On 23/07/2012 08:44, Joe Kotroczo wrote:
On 23/07/2012 04:50, RichA wrote:

(...)
But BTW, where is the spec on
the EVF??

There is no EVF. Just the touchscreen.

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canon-eos-m/

The finder doesn't swivel, and the lenses will not be as compact as 4/3
system. A disappointment, I'm afraid.

There will be more bodies than just the first one, and no doubt one will
have a swiveling screen.

The fact that it's not quite as compact as 4/3 is immaterial. The Canon
sensor is 46% larger, which gives it a big advantage over 4/3.

The real competition is the Nikon 1 system, and Canon's system blows it
out of the water.

Yes, if it sells well enough (and likely to just because of the brand
name), there will be better models. Agreed that the Nikon-1 doesn't
stand up well, but 4/3 is a more comprehensive competitor, with multiple
suppliers of bodies and lenses. A slightly larger sensor is better,
yes, but not a staggering advantage - just a little more sensitive and a
little different depth-of-field.

Doubtless many purchasers will be partially blinded by brand loyalty,
but as an [expensive] compact with the pancake lens the camera will
likely have its place.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

On 7/23/2012 11:54 PM, David Taylor wrote:

Yes, if it sells well enough (and likely to just because of the brand
name), there will be better models. Agreed that the Nikon-1 doesn't
stand up well, but 4/3 is a more comprehensive competitor, with multiple
suppliers of bodies and lenses. A slightly larger sensor is better,
yes, but not a staggering advantage - just a little more sensitive and a
little different depth-of-field.

Doubtless many purchasers will be partially blinded by brand loyalty,
but as an [expensive] compact with the pancake lens the camera will
likely have its place.

The big appeal to current Canon owners is that they can use their
existing lenses. An EF-s lens is especially well-suited to the EOS-m.

4/3 has gone nowhere due to all of its inherent problems. The EOS-m
sensor is not "slightly larger" it's significantly larger. The noise
problems with 4/3 will not be as much of a problem on EF-m. I would have
preferred a 12MP sensor and lower noise to the 18MP sensor.

On 24/07/2012 12:51, sms88 wrote:
On 7/23/2012 11:54 PM, David Taylor wrote:

Yes, if it sells well enough (and likely to just because of the brand
name), there will be better models. Agreed that the Nikon-1 doesn't
stand up well, but 4/3 is a more comprehensive competitor, with multiple
suppliers of bodies and lenses. A slightly larger sensor is better,
yes, but not a staggering advantage - just a little more sensitive and a
little different depth-of-field.

Doubtless many purchasers will be partially blinded by brand loyalty,
but as an [expensive] compact with the pancake lens the camera will
likely have its place.

The big appeal to current Canon owners is that they can use their
existing lenses. An EF-s lens is especially well-suited to the EOS-m.

4/3 has gone nowhere due to all of its inherent problems. The EOS-m
sensor is not "slightly larger" it's significantly larger. The noise
problems with 4/3 will not be as much of a problem on EF-m. I would have
preferred a 12MP sensor and lower noise to the 18MP sensor.

Yes, you can use existing lenses, but the lenses are then just the same
size and weight as on a DSLR, and you lose the optical viewfinder!

(Oh, and the note I was says it can use EF, not EF-S lenses, but perhaps
that was just an omission.)

The sensor size advantage of APS-C over 4/3 is about half an EVF value
(with the same lens f/number) - perhaps that's significant to you.

Having said all of that, were Nikon to have produced a mirror-less
camera, with swivel LCD and EVF and built-in flash, it would have been
in my consideration as my next camera (I'm hoping for a D5200 soon!),
but the Canon unit is right at the bottom end of the range lacking so
many facilities, and yet priced much higher.
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Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu