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Herbert Keppler, 1925-2008
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Herbert Keppler, 1925-2008
ASAAR wrote:
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...num=01060 7-1 http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...1925-2008.html That's a great loss to the photographic community. Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. |
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:57:33 -0500, Cynicor wrote:
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...num=01060 7-1 http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...1925-2008.html That's a great loss to the photographic community. Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. Somewhat mitigated by the shared wisdom of internet warnings. Way back when, those new to photography had little reason to be wary of ads from unethical camera dealers. For some reason, one short rhyme from one of the photo magazines (probably from the early 1960's) stuck in my mind: "If you're worried or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout." I don't remember who wrote it but it might have been Keppler. If he did, it may not even have originated with him. Although I couldn't realize it at the time, it provided a prescient crystal ball glimpse of some of the future denizens of the not-yet internet. Hint: RichA |
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Cynicor wrote:
ASAAR wrote: http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...num=01060 7-1 http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...1925-2008.html That's a great loss to the photographic community. Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. Rule #1 in publishing: "Do not bite the (advertiser's) hand that feeds you." |
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Tony Polson wrote:
Cynicor wrote: ASAAR wrote: http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...num=01060 7-1 http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...1925-2008.html That's a great loss to the photographic community. Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. Rule #1 in publishing: "Do not bite the (advertiser's) hand that feeds you." Yeah, but sometimes you gotta bite the hand. Especially if an advertiser's presence lowers trust and value for the publication and other advertisers. I just left the magazine business after 12 years, and we simply had certain acceptability guidelines for ads. And it was easier for us, because we had a wide range of ad types. A magazine like PopPhoto basically has one type - low-cost camera gear. If you're B&H and an ad for BaitSwitch photo appears right next to yours on a folio with half price deals, it makes B&H look expensive instead of honest. |
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Cynicor wrote:
Tony Polson wrote: Cynicor wrote: ASAAR wrote: http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...num=01060 7-1 http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...1925-2008.html That's a great loss to the photographic community. Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. Rule #1 in publishing: "Do not bite the (advertiser's) hand that feeds you." Yeah, but sometimes you gotta bite the hand. Especially if an advertiser's presence lowers trust and value for the publication and other advertisers. But "Bait and Switch Monthly" has never bitten the hands of advertisers it should long ago have excluded from the magazine. I just left the magazine business after 12 years, and we simply had certain acceptability guidelines for ads. And it was easier for us, because we had a wide range of ad types. A magazine like PopPhoto basically has one type - low-cost camera gear. If you're B&H and an ad for BaitSwitch photo appears right next to yours on a folio with half price deals, it makes B&H look expensive instead of honest. I think the only effort "Bait and Switch Monthly" made in this direction was to make sure that shady ads were kept apart from B&H and Adorama's where possible. |
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Herbert Keppler, 1925-2008
On Jan 8, 6:57 am, Cynicor wrote:
... Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. I haven't got an issue of Pop Photo in front of me, but somewhere at the front or back of the advertising section is a statement about their "Check Rated" program for protecting readers. You identify yourself to the seller as a Pop Photo reader who is buying on the understanding that the merchant will live up to his PopPhoto Check Rated committments. I did that when ordering a camera from one of the companies that has lots of complaints. My camera was delivered promptly, exactly as advertised, at the advertised price. I got no call from a salesman pushing a "kit" of accessories and telling me that the camera was out of stock when I refused to buy. Maybe I was lucky, or maybe Pop Photo's name really did the trick. Alan |
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Herbert Keppler, 1925-2008
Alan Meyer wrote:
On Jan 8, 6:57 am, Cynicor wrote: ... Although honestly, last time I looked Popular Photography was filled with bait-and-switch Brooklyn dealers, no matter what their code of conduct says. I haven't got an issue of Pop Photo in front of me, but somewhere at the front or back of the advertising section is a statement about their "Check Rated" program for protecting readers. You identify yourself to the seller as a Pop Photo reader who is buying on the understanding that the merchant will live up to his PopPhoto Check Rated committments. I did that when ordering a camera from one of the companies that has lots of complaints. My camera was delivered promptly, exactly as advertised, at the advertised price. I got no call from a salesman pushing a "kit" of accessories and telling me that the camera was out of stock when I refused to buy. Maybe I was lucky, or maybe Pop Photo's name really did the trick. That's actually very interesting. Maybe I should try it sometime with a shady dealer just to see if it works. |
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Herbert Keppler, 1925-2008
On Jan 8, 2:25 am, ASAAR wrote:
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?o...&article_num=0... http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto.../in-memoriam-h... See also: http://www.popphoto.com/popularphoto...t-keppler.html I figure that Herbert Keppler spent his entire life doing what he most loved doing - taking pictures, fooling around with photo equipment, and talking and writing about it both to experts and to ordinary enthusiasts. What a great life he had. Lots of us work 5 days a week to live 2. He lived 7 days a week. Lots of us take jobs we don't like in order to earn money to live. He had a job that I think he would have wanted to do even if nobody paid him. He was still working and loving what he did at age 82 when age caught up with him. What a great way to spend one's old age. I loved his columns. I learned a lot from him. I always enjoyed reading them even if I disagreed with something he said. He will be well remembered and much missed. Alan |
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