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Old September 6th 06, 09:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Hi

One of my users requires a digital camera to use at events and she
needs it to display on the screen the number of pictures she has taken
so far... so it would say PIC 220 or something like that...

They have used a SONY camcorder in the past, hardly ideal but it did
the job... but this product is now end of line and i am struggling to
find aother on that can do the job.

One other thing, they dont need it to be an all singing all dancing
camera, the pics they need are all emailed so need to be low quality,
640 X 480 VGA

Thanks

Matt

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Old September 6th 06, 06:00 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:19:19 +0100, bugbear wrote:

One of my users requires a digital camera to use at events and
she needs it to display on the screen the number of pictures she
has taken so far... so it would say PIC 220 or something like that...

. . .

I don't quite understand the need for the counter (which I think
most cameras will provide BTW).


I have yet to see a camera that shows the number of pictures
taken. All that I've seen so far show an estimate of the number of
remaining pictures that can be taken given the currently selected
image pixel size and "quality" (JPG compression). This number is,
I'd think, more useful than the number of pictures already taken,
since it can be used as a warning to prepare to swap the nearly full
memory card with an empty one. It would be very annoying to try to
take a once-in-a-lifetime shot only to have the camera report:

"***** ERROR: NO MORE AVAILABLE MEMORY *****"

For those with no more memory cards, if you see that the remaining
number of shots is too low, you have enough advance warning to lower
the resolution or increase the jpeg compression in order to be able
to take more pictures, if you so choose. Or to buy another card.

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Old September 6th 06, 06:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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ASAAR wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:19:19 +0100, bugbear wrote:

One of my users requires a digital camera to use at events and
she needs it to display on the screen the number of pictures she
has taken so far... so it would say PIC 220 or something like that...

. . .

I don't quite understand the need for the counter (which I think
most cameras will provide BTW).


I have yet to see a camera that shows the number of pictures
taken.


All three Canons I own do this if you set the menu to start each pic
count over, and reformat before a shoot.

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Old September 6th 06, 06:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:36:46 -0700, John McWilliams wrote:

I have yet to see a camera that shows the number of pictures
taken.


All three Canons I own do this if you set the menu to start each pic
count over, and reformat before a shoot.


Almost all cameras can do that (including my Canon Powershots),
but it requires several constraints that aren't all that easy to
accept. If you delete any images, the file count can't be easily
determined unless you can keep track of the number of deleted
images, and it will be less than the last image number shown by the
camera. It also is quite unreasonable for most people, as it will
result in many duplicate image filenames as the months and years go
by. Maybe even many duplicates on the same day if large cards
aren't used. This is an option that should only be chosen by those
that are completely aware of what they are doing and what the
consequences might be. Now that I think of it, one of the reasons
some people give for buying several small cards instead of one large
card (the "all eggs in one basket theory") can create this duplicate
filename problem that a single large card would avoid. At least
avoid dupes in the near future for very fast snappers.

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Old September 6th 06, 10:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 14:30:30 -0500, Jim Townsend wrote:

I have yet to see a camera that shows the number of pictures
taken.


In both my Canon cameras, when you bring up the image review screen
you see the count. If you took 10 pictures and you're looking at
the first image you took, the screen says 1/10

If you erase one then the display says 1/9


Darn. My Canon Powershots (S10 & S20) must be older than yours.
They share the same very rudimentary display panel that shows only
the remaining image capacity. It's nearly the same with their LCD
displays that in either simple or detailed display modes show only
the same number of remaining shots (estimated) but add the file
numbers of the currently viewed image. I just checked my more
recent Fuji S5100 to be sure, and it shows only the same image file
number information that the Powershots display. I wonder if the
cameras are hinting that it's time to get them a younger sibling?



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Old September 7th 06, 12:32 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:00:12 -0400, ASAAR wrote:

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:19:19 +0100, bugbear wrote:

One of my users requires a digital camera to use at events and
she needs it to display on the screen the number of pictures she
has taken so far... so it would say PIC 220 or something like that...

. . .

I don't quite understand the need for the counter (which I think
most cameras will provide BTW).


I have yet to see a camera that shows the number of pictures
taken. All that I've seen so far show an estimate of the number of
remaining pictures that can be taken given the currently selected
image pixel size and "quality" (JPG compression). This number is,
I'd think, more useful than the number of pictures already taken,
since it can be used as a warning to prepare to swap the nearly full
memory card with an empty one. It would be very annoying to try to
take a once-in-a-lifetime shot only to have the camera report:

"***** ERROR: NO MORE AVAILABLE MEMORY *****"

For those with no more memory cards, if you see that the remaining
number of shots is too low, you have enough advance warning to lower
the resolution or increase the jpeg compression in order to be able
to take more pictures, if you so choose. Or to buy another card.


I don't think the OP was really clear as to which number had to be
showing.
Most any digital camera will easily show a count, such as "X of N".
This may be what the OP needs. It will show which photo of the number
on the card is being shown. I think this is what's wanted, and I don't
know of any that won't do this, but I certainly don't know about all
on the market.
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Old September 7th 06, 01:07 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:32:15 -0700, Bill Funk wrote:

I don't think the OP was really clear as to which number had to be
showing.
Most any digital camera will easily show a count, such as "X of N".
This may be what the OP needs. It will show which photo of the number
on the card is being shown. I think this is what's wanted, and I don't
know of any that won't do this, but I certainly don't know about all
on the market.


As I mentioned in another reply, 3 out of 3 of my dcams don't show
an "X of N" count. Yours do. What we've got here is almost a Jack
Sprat situation. With luck my next camera's numerical offerings
won't be so lean. As I said in an earlier reply, I don't see why
that's a particularly useful number, as it can't be used to provide
an accurate indication of the amount of remaining memory space,
since the size of individual images can vary quite a bit depending
on the complexity/compressibility of each image. The OP may have a
good reason for wanting that "X of N" count, but the only reasons I
can come up with all are strained, forced or generally impractical.
An example: To complete a course assignment you have to take 50
scenic landscapes in the morning and 50 portraits in the afternoon.

The estimate of the number of images that can be added to a card
is much more useful and fortunately all of my cameras provide that
information. It remains accurate even if junior, unbeknownst to
you, shoots a 75 second video clip when you put the camera down and
wander into the kitchen to get some fried chicken and potato salad.



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Old September 7th 06, 12:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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That sounds like it might do the job! what type of CANON camera is it
Jim?

If people are wondering why i need this function its because one of our
users works in a department who go out and take hundreds of 'Passport
Style' pictures of school children and then the email a load to a
production company who create ID badges for them to show how old they
are so they can prove how old the are in shops, etc...

The person takes a huge document with them with the school kids names
and numbers ranging from 1 - 250 for example and they need to keep a
track of the numbers as the go along... if pressing play brings up the
numbers that will definatly be ok for them

If you can let me know what camera it is, i might buy it

Thanks!

Matt

 




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