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Bob Terwilliger wrote:
Al wrote:


Please open your eyes. You'll see it's turtles... all the way down.

Clams.

Turtles, you anti-Turtle-ist. Some people will believe anything.

removing tongue from cheek, for the humor-impaired


Are you a turtle?

Bob
whiney 'master of disguise' voice
"Am I not Tuuuuuuuurtle enough for the Tuuuuuurtle club?"
/whiney 'master of disguise' voice

Go forth, Grasshopper.



--
I do *NOT* have a short attention sp...(Oooh!! shiny!!)

Great sig line!

C

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
Al wrote:

Please open your eyes. You'll see it's turtles... all the way down.
Clams.
Turtles, you anti-Turtle-ist. Some people will believe anything.

removing tongue from cheek, for the humor-impaired

Are you a turtle?

Bob



And the proper answer would be; 'you bet your sweet ass I am'

Isn't that a military thing?

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:17:00 -0700, "Ball of Fluff"
wrote:


"Mordechai Housman" wrote in message
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"Terry" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:28:57 GMT, "Mordechai Housman"
wrote:

Okay, I saw the video.

But I cannot believe that anyone actually believes this. South Park is a
comedy, so there is no reason to believe that just because they say that
Scientologists believe that stuff it means that they really believe it.

I don't believe anyone in his right mind can believe that. And I have
read up on Scientology, so I have another reason not to believe it.

I'm hoping against hope that no one really believes that stuff.

If you have read up on Scientology, you should be able to tell us
Scientologists do believe the claims South Park made.

I have read up on it quite a bit, and this is the first time I have ever
encountered this series of beliefs. I had encountered simpler beliefs,
almost equally as ridiculous.

Well, I was in CofS for a long time and am now a non CofS ("Church of
Scientology") Scientologist, so I will take a stab at this.

Yes, Scn does teach that people are infested with body thetans. This is an
upper level teaching. Most CofS members never get that far. It costs a LOT
of money (in CofS, that is. Elsewhere, it's a lot less) to get there. Also
one has to be 'vetted by the local OSA (think internal affairs/FBI/CIA, only
just for CofS) rep before one can go on and do a lot of this upper level
stuff.

In any event, it's a possession legend, not entirely dissimilar to those one
can find in many established religions.

For me- well, the jury's still out on it. I think such things are possible
though the actual legend with the guy and the volcano I think is bizarre and
probably a misinterpretation or even an allegory.

What they didn't say in South Park (which is fine. I looove South Park and
I've seen almost every movie and show Parker and Stone have ever done. I
don't expect a half hour animated comedy show to be a documentary) is that
most of Scn deals with Hubbard's theories on the mind, spirituality, and old
old topics like Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People.

That's why I got into Scn, and that's what I got out of it and still do.

There are many many many taped lectures and written materials in Scn that
have nothing to do with space opera. Those are the things in which I'm most
interested.

Personally,speaking as a believer, I think that what someone did in their
last life or a gazillion years ago would be as important or unimportant as
what happened to the person last year.

Scn teaches that it's not so much incident content (eg Xenu, volcanoes, the
time one was hit by a car, fell, whatever) that matters so much as the
decisions and thoughts that the person had about that.

Hubbard spent far more time discussing those things than he ever did about
the space opera.

C



Hubbard was a stage Hypnotist

http://ww.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm

Erickson was adamantly opposed to stage hypnosis and throughout his
career he attempted to curtail its use. Philip Ament, D.D.C, wrote
Erickson on March 19, 1956, informing him that a Buffalo N.Y. city
councilman was "interested in passing an ordinance. . . to the effect
that stage hypnosis will be against the law." Erickson's reply is a
succinct representation of his basis of objection to the stage
practice of hypnosis.

Dear Dr. Ament:

I have just returned from a seminar in New York and will answer your
letter hastily.

I have been interested in hypnosis for over thirty years. I have
written extensively on the subject, as regards both experimental work
and clinical work. I have had a great deal of experience with a wide
variety of patients, as you already know.

It is on the basis of my experience that I wish to make the following
statements: Stage hypnosis is detrimental to the general public for
the reason that many unstable persons volunteer as subjects in a
desperate hope to get some help, either directly or indirectly. As a
consequence, they are mislead, misinformed and confused and often
alienated in relation to a therapeutic method that would ordinarily be
helpful to them. Additionally, stage hypnosis gives the public a
misconception what hypnosis really is and what its uses are and, in
this regard, is actually a disservice to the general public.

The use of hypnosis by charlatans and would-be practitioners of the
healing arts constitutes the same liability to mental health that
surgery would be in similar hands, although the danger is not so
readily recognized. During the course of my experience, I frequently
have had to clarify the disordered and confused thinking of many
patients, who had been abused by the deceptive, misleading and often
callous use of hypnosis by stage hypnotists and unquyalified users of
stage hypnosis.

For these reasons, which could be elaborated upon extensively, I faver
(sic) strongly the passage of laws and regulations limiting the use of
hypnosis to professionally qualified men. I would include in such
professionally qualified men psychologists possessing the Ph.D. degree
or the equivelant thereof, dentists and physicians, and I would also
favor the use of hypnpsis under the supervision of the Psychology
Departments of any accredited institution of higher learning.

I hope this meets your wishes.

SIncerely yours,

Milston H. Erickson



From:

The Letters of Milton Erickson

"On Hypnosis and Antisocial Acts"

pp 235-236

Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON

I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake

If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!

29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "

The internet is the Liberty Tree

http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com
http://www.lermanet.com/idacamburn/cultsandkids.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist4.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
both with IMAGES!!



"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]

What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..

We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.

Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

"Bob Terwilliger" wrote in message
...
Al wrote:

Please open your eyes. You'll see it's turtles... all the way down.

Clams.

Turtles, you anti-Turtle-ist. Some people will believe anything.

removing tongue from cheek, for the humor-impaired

Are you a turtle?

Bob



You bet your sweet ass I am! wink

kili

__
Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:15:57 -0700, "Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even
number wrote:

-If you know ANYONE who is tempted to join the Church of Scientology, you
REALLY should refer them to this excellent site. If they STILL wish to
join, they they deserve to suffer what's coming to them...

NO ONE deserves that.
--
http://www.webdingers.com/filelist.html

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:53:44 GMT, Blair P. Houghton wrote:

Michael Reuss wrote:
In reality, most Scientologists don't even know about Xenu. Because you
need to advance to OwE tEE 3 to learn it, and most of them have not yet
advanced that far.

They don't have the money.

And by the time they advance that far, they will have been well
conditioned to accept goofiness that's spoon fed them by the cult.
That's how advanced Scientologists are defined, by the fact that they're
still willing to be fervant and loyal, no matter how stupid the material
being fed to them, no matter how little in the way of God-like being
they actually become.

Republicans.

I saw that website, and I STILL think it's a hoax or something. I don't
consider their beliefs real, whatever their beliefs may be, but I find
it hard to believe that people really believe something like that.

Please open your eyes. You'll see it's turtles... all the way down.

Clams.

--Blair


Oh indeed they do believe it...

http://www.lermanet.com/xenu-in-southpark-is-real.htm

27 year member of Scientology Creed Pearson, a one time friend of
Kathy Feshback has been reading OCMB chatboard, and while patiently
waiting for his password to be sent to his email at
made an audio tape, it is quite short, as a
commentary on topics of mutual interest.

The Windows media file version is only 3.57 Meg, I'd love to hear
fluffy, umike and lulubelles opinions on Creed's tape. It is only 21
minutes long.
http://www.silentology.com/29august2006.wma

ENJOY

Also available as a 5 Meg file in Real Media format HERE
http://www.silentology.com/29august2006.rm
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON

I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake

If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!

29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "

The internet is the Liberty Tree

http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com
http://www.lermanet.com/idacamburn/cultsandkids.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist4.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
both with IMAGES!!



"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]

What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..

We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.

Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:07:23 GMT, Lermanet.com
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 06:28:57 GMT, "Mordechai Housman"
wrote:

Please see
http://www.lermanet.com/xenu-in-southpark-is-real.htm

arnie lerma
Lermanet.com
Exposing the CON


Okay, I saw the video.

But I cannot believe that anyone actually believes this. South Park is a
comedy, so there is no reason to believe that just because they say that
Scientologists believe that stuff it means that they really believe it.

I don't believe anyone in his right mind can believe that. And I have
read up on Scientology, so I have another reason not to believe it.

I'm hoping against hope that no one really believes that stuff.

Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON



Oh indeed they do believe it...

http://www.lermanet.com/xenu-in-southpark-is-real.htm

27 year member of Scientology Creed Pearson, a one time friend of
Kathy Feshback has been reading OCMB chatboard, and while patiently
waiting for his password to be sent to his email at
made an audio tape, it is quite short, as a
commentary on topics of mutual interest.

The Windows media file version is only 3.57 Meg, I'd love to hear
fluffy, umike and lulubelles opinions on Creed's tape. It is only 21
minutes long.
http://www.silentology.com/29august2006.wma

ENJOY

Also available as a 5 Meg file in Real Media format HERE
http://www.silentology.com/29august2006.rm
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON

I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake

If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!

29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "

The internet is the Liberty Tree

http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com
http://www.lermanet.com/idacamburn/cultsandkids.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist4.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
both with IMAGES!!



"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]

What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..

We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.

Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:47:25 GMT, Alvar Liddell
wrote:

It was played in full in Australia last night followed by the Mormon
family episode. On station SBS.


I liked the Mormon episode, which was on recently in the US. All that
dum-dum-dum music helped.

BTW, the Scientology one was on just a few days ago.

Something to offend the followers of L.Ron as well as Joseph Smith
(bom, bom, bom)




On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:43:49 -0500, Simkatu wrote:

*ProteanThread* wrote:
What video ? Link ?

There are many places to watch the Tom Cruise in the closet South Park
episode.

One place that works is:

http://scientomogy.com/southpark_scientology.php

Have fun,
Simkatu
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

On 29 Aug 2006 09:02:03 -0500, "Bob Terwilliger"
wrote:

Al wrote:

Please open your eyes. You'll see it's turtles... all the way down.

Clams.

Turtles, you anti-Turtle-ist. Some people will believe anything.

removing tongue from cheek, for the humor-impaired

Are you a turtle?

I'm an a-Turtle-ist, which is different from anti-Turtle-ism. The
anti-Turtle-ists say There Is No Turtle.

"Michael Reuss" wrote in message

Please open your eyes. You'll see it's turtles... all the way down.

I read that story, with the professor and the lady, but I can't remember
where!! Please remind me.