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Suitable camera device.
My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a
digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ I started with the low price group which included the Fuji Finepix A340. What put me off this one was poor flash and no manual settings. I then went to the next higher price group which included the Kodak Easyshare DX7630 and the HP Photosmart 945. What put me of the Kodak was the more expensive proprietary batteries. What put me off the HP was the way the reviews rated it as being of significantly lower spec than the Kodak. What put me off both was the lack of RAW or TIFF output, which I'd hoped would be available at this price level. So, I read some more and I learnt that it was the Canon and Nikon cameras that were most likely to have the multiple filetype options. Well, I looked at several Canon models up to a significantly higher price than the Kodak or HP I'd seen but these Canons only had JPEG output. Can anyone please suggest a middle range camera that's 4MP or more, has manual control and the facility to add lenses and filters and also has RAW or similar output option? TIA -- Lila Duncan |
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Lila Duncan writes:
My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? -- Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@ http://www.PhilipStripling.com/ | my domain is read daily. |
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Lila Duncan writes:
My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? -- Philip Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed Legal Assistance on the Web | spam and read later. email to philip@ http://www.PhilipStripling.com/ | my domain is read daily. |
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On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling
wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. -- Lila Duncan |
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On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling
wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. -- Lila Duncan |
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Lila Duncan wrote:
On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. Sh. |
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:32:36 -0700, "Frank ess"
wrote: Lila Duncan wrote: On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. Sh. Your self expression is really coming on. -- Lila Duncan |
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Lila Duncan wrote:
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:32:36 -0700, "Frank ess" wrote: Lila Duncan wrote: On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. Sh. Your self expression is really coming on. It's for your own good. -- Frank ess |
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:48:54 -0700, "Frank ess"
wrote: Lila Duncan wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:32:36 -0700, "Frank ess" wrote: Lila Duncan wrote: On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. Sh. Your self expression is really coming on. It's for your own good. Well *you* will be the judge of that, won't you? Or perhaps you're just a pompous prat. -- Lila Duncan |
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:48:54 -0700, "Frank ess"
wrote: Lila Duncan wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:32:36 -0700, "Frank ess" wrote: Lila Duncan wrote: On 30 Sep 2004 10:05:47 -0700, Phil Stripling wrote: Lila Duncan writes: My daughter's doing a graphic design course and I want to buy her a digital camera as part of her required equipment. She got a hand out from college that gave a list of suggested cameras covering the whole price spectrum. I've spent some time researching a selection of them and have ended up further away from a decision than I was in the first place. :-\ Is part of the coursework expected by the professor that the _students_ would do the research and actually make their own decision based on what they determine to be their needs? Then the students would have the parents cough up the dough, of course, but the students would then profit by seeing how their selection actually fit their criteria and whether their process of analysis actually worked? And could be improved the next iteration? Yes I expect there might be an element of those things, except for the part about the parents coughing up, which is much more of a total certainty. You should understand that even at the student level, there is a lot to be said for the skills associated with the delegation of responsibility. My daughter has to leave college at 1:30 pm today and eat her lunch on the move while she travels to work where she will be until 8:30pm. For her this is a typical day during at least 6 days a week. Having such a timetable would certainly encourage me to take what help I could get, were I in that position. Judging by the vast range of possible cameras suggested by the college for use within this course, it's quite clear that the main criterion is affordability for all, rather than suitability for the work involved. This being the case, my daughters camera will be selected with much more consideration for it's purpose than might have been possible if the affordability issue was more acute. Congratulations Mr Stripling on showing how smart you are without giving any useful information. I've done some more research this evening and have been considering the Canon Powershot S45, partly because it's the first camera I've encountered, moving up the price range, that has a RAW file output option. I've read several learned discussions about the relative merits of JPEG, RAW and TIFF without fully understanding them but I do feel that there's some advantage in having the uncompressed file option. Sh. Your self expression is really coming on. It's for your own good. Well *you* will be the judge of that, won't you? Or perhaps you're just a pompous prat. -- Lila Duncan |
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