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Old July 15th 07, 03:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Philip Homburg
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Default Nikon maintains DSLR lead over Canon

In article ,
dj_nme wrote:
The previous "disabled" Nikon SLR cameras just meant that a new feature
(or two) in the new flagship model weren't included in the base
"disabled" model, not something as vital as lens compitiblity.


You mean like Nikon's first consumer DSLR that would not meter with Ais
lenses?

Obviously there were no hobbiests with Ais lenses when the D100 was first
introduced.


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Old July 15th 07, 05:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:06:53 +1000, dj_nme wrote:

It would hurt when the pruchaser of a D40x goes to buy a new lens and
finds that the NIikon AF lenses in his local shop won't focus when
attached to his D40x.
Then it will really seem like being "penny wise and dollar poor"
(cheaper camera now and more expensive lenses later).


Or...
He might learn something, and buy lenses that will autofocus.
I don't think you meant to imply that Nikon owners can't learn. :-)

(And it's "Penny wise and pound foolish"; 'poor' doesn't work there.)

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Old July 15th 07, 05:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 2007-07-14, Alfred Molon wrote:

106 million compact digital cameras sold vs. 5 million DSLRs sold. Guess
which cameras are more popular.


Get a dictionary and look up surge.

nb
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Old July 15th 07, 05:58 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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dj_nme wrote:

It would hurt when the pruchaser of a D40x goes to buy a new lens and
finds that the NIikon AF lenses in his local shop won't focus when
attached to his D40x.


It's actually worse than that. There are those that will order a lens
online without checking the compatibility charts, and have a real
problem returning it. There are those that will buy a D40x mistakenly
assuming that their existing Nikon lenses will work, because after all
"Nikon has never changed the lens mount," LOL.

For the D80, it's not such a big issue, except for the F3 auto-focus
lenses, all the other auto focus lenses will work. For the D40x it's a
huge issue.

See:
"http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/other/compatibility.html"
for a good compatibility chart.
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Old July 15th 07, 06:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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dj_nme wrote:

Then it will really seem like being "penny wise and dollar poor"
(cheaper camera now and more expensive lenses later).


This is very true. If the buyer is smart enough to read reviews, even
just the pros and cons on a site like dpreview, they'd be likely to bite
the bullet and spend the extra for a more capable body that will work
with more lenses. If they're really astute, they'll understand that
there are a heck of a lot more lenses they can use, and used lenses in
near-perfect condition are widely available.

Alas, many people have never learned to look at the big picture when
selecting products like this. They look only at megapixels and price.
They'll spend $250 less on the D40x than the D80, and in a few years
spend $900 on a new body, and not worry that this method of buying
actually costs them a lot more money. To each their own.

OTOH, if they are just using the D40x like they would a point and shoot,
and never using any lens other than the kit lens, none of this really
matters. Still, it's nice to see that Canon hasn't fallen into the trap
of making highly de-featured cameras like this, but maybe it's coming soon.
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Old July 15th 07, 06:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Tony Polson wrote:

But the number of compact cameras sold is static or reducing, whereas
the numbers of DSLRs sold is going up by over 50% year-on-year n
Japan, with the value of those sales increasing by 20-30%.


That's the most important part, the value of the sales. It's very hard
to make money on the point and shoot cameras, but the SLR sales are very
profitable, for the body, and especially for the lenses, flashes, and
other accessories.
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Old July 15th 07, 06:25 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Alan Browne wrote:
wrote:

You're somewhat of a whiny little bitch aren't you...


Hmm ... "verizon.net" posting from a U. in Berlin, Germany.

smells of ...


Oh my, you're good.
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Old July 15th 07, 08:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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"dj_nme" wrote in message
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Pete D wrote:

"nospam" wrote in message
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In article , SMS
wrote:


If going the Nikon route, get the D80, not the D40x. Within a few
months, that extra $250 will be forgotten and you'll have a much more
capable camera that you'll be happier with. The D40x was severely
defeatured to meet a price point, and to avoid taking sales away from
the D80.

i'm glad you have $250 you can so easily 'forget about.' what if the
user doesn't want any of the features you think are so important? what
if they have a budget? maybe they'd rather save the $250 instead of
getting features they don't need. or maybe they'd prefer spending the
$250 on a flash, another lens, or a new printer.


If that is the case then they probably should not be buying into D-SLR at
any level because pretty soon they will need a nice big flash and another
lens and so on, etc. There are quite a few that use their D-SLR as a high
quality P&S and will only ever buy the basic kit.


It would hurt when the pruchaser of a D40x goes to buy a new lens and
finds that the NIikon AF lenses in his local shop won't focus when
attached to his D40x.
Then it will really seem like being "penny wise and dollar poor" (cheaper
camera now and more expensive lenses later).

I could go as far as to guess that this could backfire on Nikon, as the
frustrated D40x owner whines about how "crappy" his Nikon DSLR is.
It might even prompt them to switch to Canon or Pentax, at least all of
the AF lenses made by both fit and function on all of their repsective
DSLR camera bodies.


I see this as the last big step for Nikon's lensmount change. Now it is a
fully electronic interface like Canon's. Now Nikon can introduce any new
lens with the AF motor inside and put the compatibility issue behind them fo
good.
John


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Old July 15th 07, 08:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Tony Polson wrote:
frederick wrote:

Joe wrote:

But the post, at least the subject line, makes a blanket statement.
Add the words "in Japan" and it would be accurate. This is a case of a
"sin of omission" tainting your point. I contend that you were being
less than honest in an attempt to assert something that isn't, or may
not be true.

The post, at least in the subject line *probably* represents the truth
in markets outside of Japan too.
But feel free to believe otherwise if that threatens you, or feel free
to prove me wrong if you can.



I'd like to thank you for proving me right.

First you tried to ridicule me whe I posted information based on the
most authoritative sales figures available for the Japanese market.
Then you posted a link to a similar (albeit not identical) set of
figures, which you have defended to the hilt.

I am so pleased that you have seen the error of your ways and
confirmed by your actions that your criticism of my previous posting
was entirely misplaced.

I accept your apology.


We shouldn't be having this discussion, because you said you "plonked"
me and shouldn't have seen my post.

 




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