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Old July 14th 07, 03:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Philip Homburg
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Default Nikon maintains DSLR lead over Canon

In article ,
SMS wrote:
That's one reason. Here are some others:

1. No mirror lock-up on the D40x

2. Lens selection. As one reviewer wrote, comparing the two cameras, "A
Nikon D40x owner is at a serious disadvantage if they try to shoot
indoor sports since they don’t have access to any bright (f/1.8 or
larger) prime lenses that can AF with the camera." OTOH, for the amateur
photographer, content with Nikon's AF-S consumer lenses (or the Sigma
HSM lenses) the D40x is alright.

3. No depth of field preview.

4. No bracketing on exposure or white balance.

5. No battery grip option (this is a biggie, a vertical grip with a
shutter release is a _very_ useful accessory even without the extra
battery capability). Maybe someone will make one as an aftermarket
accessory, as happened with the Nikon D70. Ansmann makes a battery grip
for the D40x, but it lacks a shutter release, which makes it fairly
worthless.


Not that I would buy a D40x, but you are not exactly talking about features
the average D40x would miss.

Mirror lock-up, as if they would carry a tripod.

Lens selection, as if 50mm is particularly useful for indoor sports.
And the 70-200/2.8 is just one stop away.

No DOF preview, even on Nikon's professional film bodies, you can't just rely
on DOF preview.

Who need bracketing?

You need a grip for heavy lenses. But the typical D40x owner unlikely
to spend serious money on lenses. If you do want to spend a couple of
thousand or more on lenses, get a D200 or a D2X.


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Old July 14th 07, 03:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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John McWilliams wrote:

What, "maintain"? Either way is fine for most; or is there some other
infirmity?

in my other rebutal (rpd) I re-subejected it as "takes" in lieu of
maintain.

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Old July 14th 07, 03:57 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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SMS wrote:
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:



And soon enough Canon will again release a flurry of new
models, and the poll pendulum will swing the other way.
And stay there until soon enough Nikon will again
release ...


Even though I'm a Canon user, I'm thrilled to see that Nikon has become
a real player in D-SLRs. Canon was getting a bit too smug without any
real competition.


This competition, together with a handful of other players in the DSLR
and P+S markets, is what brought digital equipment so far so fast,
although the curve for improvements and new features has flattened
markedly in the past several years.

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Old July 14th 07, 04:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute wrote:
In message news:zzUli.222$s25.157@trndny04, Dave Cohen sprach forth the
following:

frederick wrote:
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._DSLR_lead_ove
r_Canon_news_128284.html

Does that mean should I contemplate moving up to a dslr I should let a
poll determine my choice.


My sources say yes.


My pollster advises: No.

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Old July 14th 07, 04:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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In article , SMS
wrote:

If going the Nikon route, get the D80, not the D40x. Within a few
months, that extra $250 will be forgotten and you'll have a much more
capable camera that you'll be happier with. The D40x was severely
defeatured to meet a price point, and to avoid taking sales away from
the D80.


i'm glad you have $250 you can so easily 'forget about.' what if the
user doesn't want any of the features you think are so important? what
if they have a budget? maybe they'd rather save the $250 instead of
getting features they don't need. or maybe they'd prefer spending the
$250 on a flash, another lens, or a new printer.

What you need to understand is that you don't want to be changing camera
bodies a year down the road when you discover that a key feature, whose
value you didn't understand at the time of purchase, is missing.


that can happen with any camera. what if they buy a d80 and realize
that they want 5fps or gps input or metering with manual focus lenses?
then they'd need to upgrade too.

ever think that not everyone needs every single feature?? apparently
not.

nikon is not lagging badly. the only issue right now is no full-frame
and that is expected to change.


The lack of full frame is hurting Nikon in a big way. Not because sales
of the full frame cameras are so great, but because they appear to have
no upgrade path for the prosumer who is in the process of building up a
collection of lenses, flashes, etc., in the expectation that FF prices
will fall to a level he or she can afford.


bull****. nikon's sales are increasing. canon is currently hurting,
especially with the 1d mark iii debacle. full frame is not a panacea
and not everyone wants it.
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Old July 14th 07, 04:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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In article , SMS says...

SLRs lead digital camera sales surge
"http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-6173084.html"


106 million compact digital cameras sold vs. 5 million DSLRs sold. Guess
which cameras are more popular.


You have to look at the growth rates, not just the raw numbers.


Let's see: DSLRs grew by 1.5 million units, compact digital cameras grew
by 12 million units.

Hint: it's easy to grow a lot in % terms if you are a dwarf.
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Old July 14th 07, 05:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Jul 14, 10:01 am, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , SMS says...

SLRs lead digital camera sales surge
"http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-6173084.html"


106 million compact digital cameras sold vs. 5 million DSLRs sold. Guess
which cameras are more popular.

There are probably more camera phones than either. But then who cares
about that when it's the phone that makes the money? DSLRs are
profitable, P&S cameras are being given away thanks to high
competition. So much so that Kodak, which made more than anyone,
didn't make any money off it.

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Old July 14th 07, 07:42 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Alfred Molon[_3_]
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In article .com,
RichA says...

There are probably more camera phones than either. But then who cares
about that when it's the phone that makes the money? DSLRs are
profitable,


Are they? I used to think that DSLR bodies are essentially given away
and the manufacturers make money with the lenses.

P&S cameras are being given away thanks to high
competition.


Can you prove that compact digitals are sold at a loss?
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Old July 14th 07, 08:05 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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Absolutely nothing wrong with Nikon, but LOL!


"frederick" wrote in message
news:1184364423.263119@ftpsrv1...
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._128284.h tml


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Old July 14th 07, 09:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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A clear reading of the article indicates in Japan.

Do you have actual dSLR stats for the rest of the world?


On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:12:36 +1200, frederick wrote:

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk..._128284.h tml


 




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