Printer advice

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:58:24 -0600, philo wrote:

On 01/04/2018 03:49 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/4/2018 3:50 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/4/2018 1:29 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/3/2018 2:32 PM, philo wrote:
I am looking to replace my Epson P600





If I need a print larger than what our printer can do, I have a friend
who has a studio near here that has a large format printer.

Because I maintain his computers, he will do prints for me by barter.


That said, it is essential we do the printing here.


When my wife is working on a painting, she may draw a dozen mock-ups
on her Wacom and print them out.
The printer gets used for more than just final photo prints

OK



After discussing with my wife:
It seems the reason it clogged was due to the fact that it sat for
nearly six months unused!


I am going to make sure she does at least one print every few weeks.

My P800 has sat for a long time unused without any clogging. I think
there is more to it than that. Here is the manual
https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd41370.pdf You should see
page 21 about the 'Power Off' timer. I've set my P800 so that it shuts
down automatically after 20 minutes if it hasn't been used in that
time. That way it parks and caps the printhead automatically without
me ever having to worry about it.

I have hundreds of JPG's I would not mind printing out 4" x 6" and
keeping in an album.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Jan 6, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:58:24 -0600, wrote:
On 01/04/2018 03:49 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/4/2018 3:50 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/4/2018 1:29 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/3/2018 2:32 PM, philo wrote:
I am looking to replace my Epson P600

If I need a print larger than what our printer can do, I have a friend
who has a studio near here that has a large format printer.

Because I maintain his computers, he will do prints for me by barter.

That said, it is essential we do the printing here.

When my wife is working on a painting, she may draw a dozen mock-ups
on her Wacom and print them out.
The printer gets used for more than just final photo prints

OK

After discussing with my wife:
It seems the reason it clogged was due to the fact that it sat for
nearly six months unused!

I am going to make sure she does at least one print every few weeks.

My P800 has sat for a long time unused without any clogging. I think
there is more to it than that. Here is the manual
https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd41370.pdf You should see
page 21 about the 'Power Off' timer. I've set my P800 so that it shuts
down automatically after 20 minutes if it hasn't been used in that
time. That way it parks and caps the printhead automatically without
me ever having to worry about it.

The same is pretty much true for my much older R2880, which still produces
great quality prints, with no clogging, and continues to save me from
spending cash better spent on other stuff by upgrading to a P600, or P800.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:01:18 +0000, "David B."
wrote:

On 06/01/2018 08:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:53:01 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/4/2018 12:19 AM, Frank Williams wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:46:41 +0100, android wrote:

Forwarded to comp.periphs.printers.



NOTE: Perhaps just some pointers to how to troubleshoot my current
printer might be all that's needed

Keep the printer cool and power it off with the on/off button. not the
mains switch.

Canon are bubble jet printers and the print heads burn out





My wife indeed powers it off with the switch. It has not been used
enough for the heads to be "burned out."

That is a major part of your problem. If you power it down from the
control panel the printer parks the print head and then caps it. If
you just shut it down the ink in the nozzles will dry and clog them.

I have no doubt that you are 100% correct, Eric ..........

BUT .......

How do you KNOW that?

Do tell! :-)

I've got a P800 which as far as I know is a larger version of Philo's
P600. The information you are querying is in the manual.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
Not only that but what you said is true for all ink printers of all
manufacture. They all have caps that protect the printhead when the printer
powers down using the printer power button, if power is removed from the wall
this cannot happen and there is a risk of the heads drying out. In some cases
the power down cycle can take several seconds while the printer performs a
short head clean to further reduce the chance of dried out heads.

nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN
wrote:


Canon are bubble jet printers and the print heads burn out

nonsense.

Canon gave a substantial grant to an educational organization. A lot of
the grant money was used to purchase thirty Epson printers. It's not
hard to figure out why.

most canon printers have the heads in the ink cartridge, which gets
replaced every time the ink is replaced.

even if the heads did burn out, it's easy to fix. replace the ink.

epson heads *will* burn out if the clean cycle is run too many times in
a row.
Epson use piezoelectric technology in their ink printer heads, they do not get
hot. Epson printheads are far more likely to clog because of the very tiny
nozzles. Long cleaning cycles can be necessary to recover clogged heads.The
upside is generally superior print quality resulting from their technology.

On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:01:21 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jan 6, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:58:24 -0600, wrote:
On 01/04/2018 03:49 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/4/2018 3:50 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/4/2018 1:29 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/3/2018 2:32 PM, philo wrote:
I am looking to replace my Epson P600

If I need a print larger than what our printer can do, I have a friend
who has a studio near here that has a large format printer.

Because I maintain his computers, he will do prints for me by barter.

That said, it is essential we do the printing here.

When my wife is working on a painting, she may draw a dozen mock-ups
on her Wacom and print them out.
The printer gets used for more than just final photo prints

OK

After discussing with my wife:
It seems the reason it clogged was due to the fact that it sat for
nearly six months unused!

I am going to make sure she does at least one print every few weeks.

My P800 has sat for a long time unused without any clogging. I think
there is more to it than that. Here is the manual
https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd41370.pdf You should see
page 21 about the 'Power Off' timer. I've set my P800 so that it shuts
down automatically after 20 minutes if it hasn't been used in that
time. That way it parks and caps the printhead automatically without
me ever having to worry about it.

The same is pretty much true for my much older R2880, which still produces
great quality prints, with no clogging, and continues to save me from
spending cash better spent on other stuff by upgrading to a P600, or P800.

One of the advantages of the larger printer is that the cost of ink is
less per ml. I'm now at a point where I have spent no more on ink and
printer than if I had bought the P600 - and I have the advantage of
the larger print size too.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Jan 7, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:01:21 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jan 6, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:58:24 -0600, wrote:
On 01/04/2018 03:49 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/4/2018 3:50 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/4/2018 1:29 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/3/2018 2:32 PM, philo wrote:
I am looking to replace my Epson P600

If I need a print larger than what our printer can do, I have a friend
who has a studio near here that has a large format printer.

Because I maintain his computers, he will do prints for me by barter.

That said, it is essential we do the printing here.

When my wife is working on a painting, she may draw a dozen mock-ups
on her Wacom and print them out.
The printer gets used for more than just final photo prints

OK

After discussing with my wife:
It seems the reason it clogged was due to the fact that it sat for
nearly six months unused!

I am going to make sure she does at least one print every few weeks.

My P800 has sat for a long time unused without any clogging. I think
there is more to it than that. Here is the manual
https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd41370.pdf You should see
page 21 about the 'Power Off' timer. I've set my P800 so that it shuts
down automatically after 20 minutes if it hasn't been used in that
time. That way it parks and caps the printhead automatically without
me ever having to worry about it.

The same is pretty much true for my much older R2880, which still produces
great quality prints, with no clogging, and continues to save me from
spending cash better spent on other stuff by upgrading to a P600, or P800.

One of the advantages of the larger printer is that the cost of ink is
less per ml. I'm now at a point where I have spent no more on ink and
printer than if I had bought the P600 - and I have the advantage of
the larger print size too.

For now the R2880 does all I ask of it, and I am sure I should be able to
wring a few more years out of it. 13 x 19 is my current home printing limit,
and if I have to go larger I turn to Mpix, or BayPhoto.

My budget is being tooled up for another two, or three Fujinon lenses
sometime after I get home from my February trip. Once those are safely in my
kit, I have to seriously replace my 2010 iMac before even thinking about a
new printer.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:03:01 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jan 7, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 19:01:21 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On Jan 6, 2018, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:58:24 -0600, wrote:
On 01/04/2018 03:49 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/4/2018 3:50 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/4/2018 1:29 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 1/3/2018 2:32 PM, philo wrote:
I am looking to replace my Epson P600

If I need a print larger than what our printer can do, I have a friend
who has a studio near here that has a large format printer.

Because I maintain his computers, he will do prints for me by barter.

That said, it is essential we do the printing here.

When my wife is working on a painting, she may draw a dozen mock-ups
on her Wacom and print them out.
The printer gets used for more than just final photo prints

OK

After discussing with my wife:
It seems the reason it clogged was due to the fact that it sat for
nearly six months unused!

I am going to make sure she does at least one print every few weeks.

My P800 has sat for a long time unused without any clogging. I think
there is more to it than that. Here is the manual
https://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd4/cpd41370.pdf You should see
page 21 about the 'Power Off' timer. I've set my P800 so that it shuts
down automatically after 20 minutes if it hasn't been used in that
time. That way it parks and caps the printhead automatically without
me ever having to worry about it.

The same is pretty much true for my much older R2880, which still produces
great quality prints, with no clogging, and continues to save me from
spending cash better spent on other stuff by upgrading to a P600, or P800.

One of the advantages of the larger printer is that the cost of ink is
less per ml. I'm now at a point where I have spent no more on ink and
printer than if I had bought the P600 - and I have the advantage of
the larger print size too.

For now the R2880 does all I ask of it, and I am sure I should be able to
wring a few more years out of it. 13 x 19 is my current home printing limit,
and if I have to go larger I turn to Mpix, or BayPhoto.

My budget is being tooled up for another two, or three Fujinon lenses
sometime after I get home from my February trip. Once those are safely in my
kit, I have to seriously replace my 2010 iMac before even thinking about a
new printer.

I would probably be still using my Epson 3800 if the electronics in
one half of the print head had died. A new head was nearly half the
cost of the printer and fitting and aligning it was about the same of
the other half of the cost. In the end I got a good price selling it
for parts.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 1/6/2018 2:38 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:53:01 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/4/2018 12:19 AM, Frank Williams wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:46:41 +0100, android wrote:

Forwarded to comp.periphs.printers.



NOTE: Perhaps just some pointers to how to troubleshoot my current
printer might be all that's needed

Keep the printer cool and power it off with the on/off button. not the
mains switch.

Canon are bubble jet printers and the print heads burn out





My wife indeed powers it off with the switch. It has not been used
enough for the heads to be "burned out."

That is a major part of your problem. If you power it down from the
control panel the printer parks the print head and then caps it. If
you just shut it down the ink in the nozzles will dry and clog them.



I was referring to the switch on the printer. It is shut down properly.

Anyway it's working now so will not be needing a new one.

On 1/7/2018 3:37 PM, Tony wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:01:18 +0000, "David B."
wrote:

On 06/01/2018 08:38, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 09:53:01 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/4/2018 12:19 AM, Frank Williams wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 20:46:41 +0100, android wrote:

Forwarded to comp.periphs.printers.



NOTE: Perhaps just some pointers to how to troubleshoot my current
printer might be all that's needed

Keep the printer cool and power it off with the on/off button. not the
mains switch.

Canon are bubble jet printers and the print heads burn out





My wife indeed powers it off with the switch. It has not been used
enough for the heads to be "burned out."

That is a major part of your problem. If you power it down from the
control panel the printer parks the print head and then caps it. If
you just shut it down the ink in the nozzles will dry and clog them.

I have no doubt that you are 100% correct, Eric ..........

BUT .......

How do you KNOW that?

Do tell! :-)

I've got a P800 which as far as I know is a larger version of Philo's
P600. The information you are querying is in the manual.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
Not only that but what you said is true for all ink printers of all
manufacture. They all have caps that protect the printhead when the printer
powers down using the printer power button, if power is removed from the wall
this cannot happen and there is a risk of the heads drying out. In some cases
the power down cycle can take several seconds while the printer performs a
short head clean to further reduce the chance of dried out heads.




It is never powered down from the wall.

On 08/01/2018 23:10, philo wrote:
[....]
My wife indeed powers it off with the switch. It has not been used
enough for the heads to be "burned out."

That is a major part of your problem. If you power it down from the
control panel the printer parks the print head and then caps it. If
you just shut it down the ink in the nozzles will dry and clog them.



I was referring to the switch on the printer. It is shut down properly.

Anyway it's working now so will not be needing a new one.

C'mon, Philo! ;-)

What did you do to fix it?!!!!

--
David B.